Rolling Weapons, Vehicle Armament, (Now w/pics)

[Regulator]

Jacob Creutzfeldt: The movie trailer looks fun. Is that a remake of the old 80’s flick?

Mad Bodhi: I appreciate the tip on Milspray. I will definitely look into that. And you raise some good ideas on exhaust baffling. I may try that.

Now for those of you who keep pointing out that it’s dangerous and possibly illegal. No shit. I’ve already said it’s not illegal where I live to have it. You should check your area. Of course it can be dangerous, just like your other weapons. So am I just not saying it loud enough?

Don’t be a dumbass and play with this type of thing where you may endanger others!

My first attempt at vehicle mods was on a 77 Malibu. I don’t have any cool pics of it other than the exterior, so I’m not posting them. My next attempt was a ’80 Z28. This car was fully messed with.





Sold the car, minus the really cool gadgets. This one had a CARC paint base, light lockout switches, smoke, launchers and more. The launch tubes are shown below without the wiring harness which was reused later. I don’t have pics of the HUD system, lol.



I then got into trucks. This ’84 K5 had smoke, mylar screening, pepper spray sprayers, caltrop drops and bedsides lined with phonebooks for extra armor. It started off white and became camo along the way. I sold this one last year, minus gadgets, and moved the control panel and smoker to my next truck.



No pics of the armor install but here's one I shot yesterday with 124gr FMJ 9mm. At about 10 feet.

Front

Back



Caltrops, easy to make.



This is it when I sold it. Minus dangerous gadgets


My current project is an 81 K5. I haven’t done much to it other than mount the controls and hook up smoke. That’s one of the reasons I am looking for new ideas here. I did go out yesterday and snap a pic of the smoke. It was pretty damn windy but you get the idea.







Now, does anyone want to talk about vehicle weaponry?

[sworbeyegib]

Any sort of back up plan in case you get mace or smoke in the cab?

[Regulator]

Any sort of back up plan in case you get mace or smoke in the cab?

It's not mace, or even a gas. It's an oil based liquid spray. It does burn if you get it your eyes. Ask me how I know. But it won't seep in through a closed window or anything. The smoke would usually be deployed while driving. I just had to be out of the vehicle to take the pic. It works even better when you are giving it some throttle. You don't really get anything but a burnt oil smell in the cab, and it disipates.

[JohnnyMayhem]

What about dispersing an oil slick?


Oh and how did your caltrops drop out of the truck?

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

Haha! You're totally insane! And I mean that in a positive way!
Really impressive.

[Regulator]

What about dispersing an oil slick?


Oh and how did your caltrops drop out of the truck?

I don't think oil slicks would be to hard, although I never did it. Some friends and I did talk about it but I guess creating large volumes of smoke won out in the fun factor. How would you do oil slicks?

The caltrop dump tray can be any rectangular box mounted under the back of the vehicle with wire loops so it will fall open when you release it. We made our box from sheet metal about 4x4x24 and hinged it to the receiver hitch cross piece. We used a 12v solenoid from the carburetor off some old car to release it. We wanted a push button switch, but you could use a throttle cable or such. When testing your work, if you must dump these while driving, drive slow. They will bounce all over, even in a pasture. Also, keep the box empty if you're driving around on the streets. Ours never accidentally popped open, but as someone mentioned before, it could happen. Fun to make, not fun if you dump them in the street.

[Yaivenov]

Hmmm, in addition to blackout switches, also add red-out headlights. This comes from having to run vehicles dark in country; weren't allowed to use headlights and the moonless nights would get so dark we would use the parking lights to creep along. Not everyone got the fun NVG's.

Also something mentioned earlier about covering the windows. Weld on attachment points so you can do quick-attaching screen or slit plate covers for the windows. How's that sound?

ETA: A friend of mine who used to work at a volunteer FF station said he had to respond to a highway accident once that had lots of spilt diesel. Said it was the slickest stuff he had ever seen, dunno if that would be better for your "oil slick" device..

[Jeriah]

It blows my mind that this thread wasn't bullshit. Steve Jackson's got a massive hard on right now. That shit's awesome.

The issue I'd be thinking of is PURPOSE. A lot of that stuff looks fun, a very literal Poor Man's James Bond, not as in the "How To Do Illegal Shit" books but an actual budget emulation of the spy films' gadgets. So, mad props for the fun time! I deduce from your above posts that your intent was largely to have fun with these projects, so please don't interpret this suggestion as criticism.

That said, I wonder about the usefulness or purpose of vehicular weapons. What I mean is, what threats do you expect to face? Being shot at? Car chases? Running illegal (raiders') roadblocks?

I see a ram prow, run-flat or no-flat tires, and basic light armor as good, useful suggestions. As for actual mounted ordnance, I think provisions for passengers firing personal weapons to be more useful than James Bond tricks. The latter are probably vastly more fun, however.

[cannondale126]

Ive been checking back since I made the comment about the pics to see if you would post. Nice job and nice pics of the guns on the other post. I work on Buses sometimes doing conversions http://www.techtrained.com/ (shameless plug for my friend Dave!) and worked for Audio Intelligence Devices building Surveillance vehicles for the DEA,FBI,IRS etc it was a cool job but the pay was not so great. I started up another shop for a former friend(we dont see eye to eye on some matters) but Ill give you the linkhttp://www.advancedcustoms.net/4701/index.html we had a lot of strange requests for custom work from people but never any Armament requests.
The closest I can remember was a batch of Suburbans that went to the middle east that were armored with bulletproof glass. Most of our work looked like your average work van with a roof ladder rack or pickups with a cap on the back. Best one was a Kenworth T2000 for Texas customs that was used for the rodeo circuit. I miss working in the shop and fabricating. I did a lot of this work if you have any questions I might be of some help.

[ZMace]

pretty cool stuff, although when I saw the title, I expected mounted machine guns . Maybe that can go on next.

[Regulator]

Yaivenov: I can see the usefulness of red lenses. I had considered adding IR lenses, but you’re right, I may not always have access to nods. I have thought about welding ½ bolts, upside down around the windows so that expanded steel covers could quickly be added using wingnuts. I may actually try it with my new truck. Diesel is pretty slick when you spill it. I hadn’t thought of that, might be a good idea. Thanks!

Jeriah: I’m a skeptic too, lol. Thanks for the props. You are correct that it is mostly for fun. As far as usefulness, well “being shot at? Car chases? Running illegal (raiders') roadblocks” are all more likely scenarios than Zombie attack, but we’re still here preparing for it. lol But yeah, mostly fun.

We tried making a weapon mount akin to a door gunner setup and it was fail. Couldn’t hold on to the bouncing thing on rough terrain. Seems obvious now, lol. Runflats are a good idea, just haven’t purchased them. What “light armor” would you use?

Coannondale 126: Thanks and I appreciate the links. I’ll have to keep you in mind for my bus conversion too!

Yep, it happened.

ZMace: Thing is, around here anyway, we can’t have electronically fired weapons. So it’s more of a legal restraint than a knowledge restraint. I have thought about trying to make a joystick controlled cradle for a pair of auto rifles or something. It just always seemed to be a lot of work for something you couldn’t even play with. Maybe an automatic roof mounted spud cannon! That could be fun.

[TRIPLE G]

wow talk about having too much time on your hands but still thumbs up good work keep it coming.

[JohnnyMayhem]

How would you do oil slicks?

Well, I would assume that it would be more or less a water proofed version of your caltrop drop box. Hell it could be disguised as an extra jerry can on the back of your rig.

I'm not quite sure on how to get it to work though.

[crypto]

FWIW, oil throwers aren't typically designed to lay down on the road and cause a vehicle to skid out, rather to spray and coat the windshield of the pursuing car, reducing visibility so they have to slow down.

There was actually one old james bond movie back in the day that got this right, but I dont recall which one it was.

Old dirty 10W-40 would work well for that, I think.

[AmirMortal]

Wow, you stand vindicated, and I stand dumbfounded with awe! Those are in fact some pretty cool toys.

[Lenny]

:shock: Wow, you stand vindicated, and I stand dumbfounded with awe! Those are in fact some pretty cool toys.

You beat me to it!

[AgentBlack]

do you wear a tin foil hat while driving your lead coated, mylar lined, rocket launching car????

[Regulator]

Hey thanks for the props and compliments guys. It really is more about fun than anything else, even if it could be used in the PAW. I’m a guy, we like cool toys, it’s a known fact. And I probably have to much free time, lol.

So if you come up with any new suggestions let me know and maybe I’ll try to build it. As soon as it warms up a bit outdoors I’ve got crazy plans for the next one.

do you wear a tin foil hat while driving your lead coated, mylar lined, rocket launching car????

If the cars lined with mylar you don’t need the tin foil hat, duh!

[cannondale126]

Rocket car! Ejection seat..........parachute.

[AmirMortal]

For the bus you could connect the rear spraying system to the on-board black water disposal system... Ewww!

[Yaivenov]

For the bus you could connect the rear spraying system to the on-board black water disposal system... Ewww!

Wouldn't that also count as biological warfare?

[meatshieldChris]

I think one of the biggest and best improvements to a vehicle is a heavy duty bumper that protects the front of the engine compartment. I've smoked a deer, with zero damage to the vehicle. In an emergency I think it would be most handy to be able to take a hit in the "oh shit" direction and still keep going. useful things you can do with the bumper other than keep going: take out zombies. push (assuming your vehicle is large enough) other vehicles out of the way. push open large doors. hit deer.

I knew a guy that used to do paint on MVs for a living. If lead was all it took to absorb enough radar energy to matter, the additive wouldn't be $6000 to mix in a gallon of paint. Even with radar attenuating paint, you're still giving a massive return off of the windshield/windows/bumper/grill/tires. Just take a look at the front view of any car, most of what you're seeing isn't paint. Even with the special additive paint, radar invisible aircraft need carefully designed exterior surfaces to reflect the majority of the radar energy, with the paint taking care of the remainder. granted those radars are a whole lot more complex and powerful than a speed gun.

why would you be concerned about a speed reading off a radar gun when it's all going down? are the police really going to care if there's bigger emergencies?

[MIKE_the_MILITANT]

I'm 99.99% sure that lead will not absorb radar, pretty sure your thinking about radiation, and lead paint will do nill to protect you against that, needs more mass. But so far so awesome, maybe see about hooking up an NBC filter to the AC system and try to establish positive pressure in the cab. An old book I have gave the suggestion of mounting a 1/2 piece of of aluminum to the back of the driver seat, that's the most likely place for you to be shot in a car chase.
As for weapons the only thing I can think of is a spare large detachable rear bumper, running over a 6in steel pipe at freeway speeds will F-up something.

[Panzershreke]

Good Lord it's real. Hat's off to you sir. I almost called shenanigans a while ago but you have thoroughly impressed me. +117 points for pure win