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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby CipherNameRaVeN » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:09 pm

fungusmunkey wrote:Actually it is a commuter bike. Not computer. It does have disc brakes.

Oops sorry about the spelling. You may be right. It does seem like it has something there in the front wheel. But why would one need disk brakes on a commuter anyway?

fungusmunkey wrote:Some people do ride bikes with no suspension everywhere, including off road trails and up hills. Enjoyment of particular types of bikes is subjective and you seem to be projecting your opinion as more of a universal fact.
Nope. Just projecting my opinion. :mrgreen:
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Tendrax » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:27 pm

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Actually it is a commuter bike. Not computer. It does have disc brakes.

Some people do ride bikes with no suspension everywhere, including off road trails and up hills. Enjoyment of particular types of bikes is subjective and you seem to be projecting your opinion as more of a universal fact.

The review I read on it said: "Torker has hooked up the bike with beautiful alloy high-flange Sturmey Archer 5-speed internally geared hubs with drum brakes actuated by Avid Speed Dial levers." Whatever that means. Lol.

Here is the review for anyone curious. I dunno, it sounds like it might be the perfect bike for me. Simple, few gears since I barely use them anyway, and I like the way it looks. Of course, I wouldn't buy it without looking at other options first, but I am drawn to that style of bike.

CipherNameRaVeN wrote:Dude! :shock: It's a kid's bike. :lol: Neaaah! I know it is not. However, it is waaaaay small for you. No matter what yo do, you will not be comfortable riding that thing.
Do not take your seat past that mark. It will not hold your weight otherwise.
The seat is not your only problem. The whole frame is too small. Therefore the handle bars are too close.
Sorry, buddy. Try to sell it on Craig's list or something and get the money for an upgrade.

Well, yeah, I know that, I'm just trying to figure out how to make it work while I can save up. Lol. I think I have about 50 bucks to my name ATM, but I do get paid on Friday so maybe I can put some money aside.

I'm one of those weird people though, I hardly ever sell anything. I sold an iPod once, and it was just cause some one offered. I was just gonna hit the stupid thing with a machete then toss it. Lol. That's it, I can't recall ever selling anything else that was actually mine.

If I can find my receipt I might return it, actually. Should still be under the time limit,and I haven't damaged it in anyway, plus I work there so I could destroy it and they'd probably still do the return for me. Lol. However, while I can find two months worth of receipts for hot pockets and sodas, I can't find the one from the bike. Always seems to be how it goes. :lol:
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby congochris » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:12 pm

You work there, can't you have them reprint it for ya?


And that schwinn looks like it fits you as bad as my wal-mart Next bike does. I Held up that Hardrock frame next to it.. the size difference was comical. With the cranks next to each other, the top of the hardrock frame is butting up against the bottom of the seat on the Next. :lol:
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Jeriah » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:29 pm

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Jeriah wrote:Are you anywhere near Cambridge? I know of an AMAZING bike shop in Cambridge

I'm about 5 miles from Cambridge. So yeah, pretty close. What's the place called?


http://broadwaybicycleschool.com/

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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Tendrax » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:36 pm

congochris wrote:You work there, can't you have them reprint it for ya?


And that schwinn looks like it fits you as bad as my wal-mart Next bike does. I Held up that Hardrock frame next to it.. the size difference was comical. With the cranks next to each other, the top of the hardrock frame is butting up against the bottom of the seat on the Next. :lol:

Nah, doesn't work that way. If i had payed with a credit or debit card they could look it up, but I paid cash. They'll do returns on your ID if it's cheaper, but this was way over that limit.

So, how much do you guys think I could get for it on craigslist? I paid about 170 for it. Is 100 asking too much you think?
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Frank the Tank » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:39 pm

My bug out bicycle would have to have a motor. It's wayyyy too hilly around here. I think I'd mount a 20 gallon tank of fuel to my 400 ex. It'd make it farther than my heart would push me.
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Jeriah » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:48 pm

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congochris wrote:You work there, can't you have them reprint it for ya?


And that schwinn looks like it fits you as bad as my wal-mart Next bike does. I Held up that Hardrock frame next to it.. the size difference was comical. With the cranks next to each other, the top of the hardrock frame is butting up against the bottom of the seat on the Next. :lol:

Nah, doesn't work that way. If i had payed with a credit or debit card they could look it up, but I paid cash. They'll do returns on your ID if it's cheaper, but this was way over that limit.

So, how much do you guys think I could get for it on craigslist? I paid about 170 for it. Is 100 asking too much you think?


You may know better than I do, but where I worked (Ace Hardware), you could look up any past transaction, cash or credit. All you needed was the SKU of the item, and then look up every time one has sold, and then find the one for the correct date. You could then print the receipt and do the return. This was something that could be done at the manager's discretion, so you'll get different answers depending on whose shift you go in on. Remember that the reason you need a receipt to do a return is to discourage shoplifters from returning their stolen goods for cash. All you have to do is convince the manager you're legit, for example by offering all the personal info they want, telling them the approximate date range you bought the product on, etc., and they should hook you up. (Unless Wal-Mart is different from normal stores and doesn't give their managers that discretion.)
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Tendrax » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:56 pm

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congochris wrote:You work there, can't you have them reprint it for ya?


And that schwinn looks like it fits you as bad as my wal-mart Next bike does. I Held up that Hardrock frame next to it.. the size difference was comical. With the cranks next to each other, the top of the hardrock frame is butting up against the bottom of the seat on the Next. :lol:

Nah, doesn't work that way. If i had payed with a credit or debit card they could look it up, but I paid cash. They'll do returns on your ID if it's cheaper, but this was way over that limit.

So, how much do you guys think I could get for it on craigslist? I paid about 170 for it. Is 100 asking too much you think?


You may know better than I do, but where I worked (Ace Hardware), you could look up any past transaction, cash or credit. All you needed was the SKU of the item, and then look up every time one has sold, and then find the one for the correct date. You could then print the receipt and do the return. This was something that could be done at the manager's discretion, so you'll get different answers depending on whose shift you go in on. Remember that the reason you need a receipt to do a return is to discourage shoplifters from returning their stolen goods for cash. All you have to do is convince the manager you're legit, for example by offering all the personal info they want, telling them the approximate date range you bought the product on, etc., and they should hook you up. (Unless Wal-Mart is different from normal stores and doesn't give their managers that discretion.)

Yeah at Target it's all about what the computer software is coded to do. Target is pretty damn strict about this stuff, and without a receipt there's no way to do a return over 50 dollars.
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby CipherNameRaVeN » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:06 pm

Tendrax wrote:So, how much do you guys think I could get for it on craigslist? I paid about 170 for it. Is 100 asking too much you think?

It may be difficult. Put it on Craig's list anyway. It does not cost you anything. You already have descent photos of it. Write how much you paid for it and how much you are asking. If someone offers you $90 - take it.
It's a shame to loose so much money though. It sounds like you purchased it fairly recently. Though you do not have a receipt, I would run your situation by your manager anyway. Tell him that you bought the bike before you knew any better. If the manager is not a dick, he/she my be sympathetic to your situation, and may be willing to help you out. That's your best bet! (Some ass kissing may be necessary). Dude, definitely try that route first.
In the worst case scenario, you should be able to return it for credit. Use the credit for usual groceries, home goods, etc. Use cash to purchase a bike. I don’t know your situation, but if you happen to live with your folks, they may be willing to take the credit of your hands for cash… because they love you so much. :D
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Tendrax » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:55 pm

Well, while not bad suggestions in a general sense, there is literally NOTHING they can do for me to return it short of just giving me cash out of the register. Which would screw up the money counts and probably cost them their jobs. Lol. I'm going to continue looking for my receipt, but I have a feeling I'll be stuck just trying to sell it on craigslist.
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby congochris » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:37 am

Good luck, I've had to do the receipt scavenger hunt myself, more than once. Stupid idea, check with the bike manual?
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby CipherNameRaVeN » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:28 am

Tendrax wrote:Well, while not bad suggestions in a general sense, there is literally NOTHING they can do for me to return it short of just giving me cash out of the register. Which would screw up the money counts and probably cost them their jobs. Lol. I'm going to continue looking for my receipt, but I have a feeling I'll be stuck just trying to sell it on craigslist.

You can at LEAST get store credit for it WITHOUT receipt. I guarantee it.
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Tater Raider » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:06 am

Tendrax wrote:Well, while not bad suggestions in a general sense, there is literally NOTHING they can do for me to return it short of just giving me cash out of the register. Which would screw up the money counts and probably cost them their jobs. Lol. I'm going to continue looking for my receipt, but I have a feeling I'll be stuck just trying to sell it on craigslist.

I had a big ticket item that I needed a receipt for. I was able to give Target the approximate time I purchased the item and the checkout line I thought I went through. It was the one next to the line I had picked so it took a bit of time, but they found it and ran me off a copy for my records.

I don't know if this is helpful, but it's worth a shot.
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Jeriah » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:52 am

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Tendrax wrote:Well, while not bad suggestions in a general sense, there is literally NOTHING they can do for me to return it short of just giving me cash out of the register. Which would screw up the money counts and probably cost them their jobs. Lol. I'm going to continue looking for my receipt, but I have a feeling I'll be stuck just trying to sell it on craigslist.

I had a big ticket item that I needed a receipt for. I was able to give Target the approximate time I purchased the item and the checkout line I thought I went through. It was the one next to the line I had picked so it took a bit of time, but they found it and ran me off a copy for my records.

I don't know if this is helpful, but it's worth a shot.


I am pretty sure almost any cash register system can do this. It's not a return without a receipt, it's reprinting a receipt. Any POS machine that can't do it is...well, a POS. :lol:
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Tendrax » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:06 am

Jeriah wrote:
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Tendrax wrote:Well, while not bad suggestions in a general sense, there is literally NOTHING they can do for me to return it short of just giving me cash out of the register. Which would screw up the money counts and probably cost them their jobs. Lol. I'm going to continue looking for my receipt, but I have a feeling I'll be stuck just trying to sell it on craigslist.

I had a big ticket item that I needed a receipt for. I was able to give Target the approximate time I purchased the item and the checkout line I thought I went through. It was the one next to the line I had picked so it took a bit of time, but they found it and ran me off a copy for my records.

I don't know if this is helpful, but it's worth a shot.


I am pretty sure almost any cash register system can do this. It's not a return without a receipt, it's reprinting a receipt. Any POS machine that can't do it is...well, a POS. :lol:

Well, I've been working there 4 years and I've never seen or heard of anyone being able to print a reciept, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask while at work today.
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Jonas » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:30 pm

Does anyone know of a 700 x 23c or 700 x 25c tire with a somewhat aggressive tread? So far the best I can find are Kenda Karvs.
http://www.kendausa.com/en/home/bicycle/commuter/karvs.aspx
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Tater Raider » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:18 pm

somewhat aggressive to be used for...?

Schwalbe Tires has some nice tires. http://www.schwalbetires.com/
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby Jonas » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:47 pm

I have a roadbike and around here, I end up cutting across grass fields, very rarely go on some hardpack through the woods and use a lot of fine gravel trails. Slicks are a bad call for all of these. I don't have enough clearance to go any bigger than a 25c. I just want to be able to go on different, reasonable surfaces without washing out as much. I'm not trying to make a road bike into anything it really isn't. I want a little bit of an insurance policy for commuting.

Thanks for the suggestion of Schwalbe. I considered the marathons but they run a little tall with the puncture resistant design. I might be able to get away with it in the front, which might solve most of my problems.

I run smart sams when I have my mountain bike set up for off road. I'm really happy with it.
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby velojym » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:32 am

When I first started road riding, I decided to approach it from the hybrid angle, and bought a Kona Jake-the-Snake cyclocross bike.
The green knobbies came off quickly and were replaced, for quite some time, with Michelin Axial Pros in 23c... lotsa miles on those tires, and
I'm sad that they aren't in production anymore.
The great thing about using a 'cross bike... I was easily able to keep up with the other fast-recreational riders, even on the several Century rides
I did, and I still have the stay clearance for wider touring rubber, as well as the even fatter 29er meats. I love the versatility of this bike, though I
have picked up a (think I probably mentioned it a few pages back) dedicated touring bike. The "real" road bikes I've had over the years were usually
very nice, but I have a thing for bikes with split personalities.
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Postby xtrajack » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:47 am

Mahatma Zombie wrote:I'm down with the bikes... Here is my commuter I just built up, might not get away from too many zombies but it's dope!

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.ph ... 1&page=100 (flat green cruiser right at the top of the page)

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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby velojym » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:31 pm

I'm a bf member too, but haven't been real active there lately.
.... or anywhere, for that matter.
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Re: Re:

Postby fungusmunkey » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:24 pm

xtrajack wrote: Shiny I never expected to see another bikeforum member here.
Personally I rock an Xtracycle as a commuter, and I expect that I would not have any issues using it as a BOV. It will carry 200 pounds of darn near anything that I want to put on it.


I would appreciate more details about the xtracycle commuter. How is it working out for you as a DD? Are there any issues to be aware of due to the extra length? Difficulties locking it up? Do you get hop-ons?

I am considering adding a cargo bike to the stable to replace my pickup truck and would like practical experienced based opinions. The Yuba Mundo is what i'm looking at. Either that or just getting a heavy duty trailer from bikesatwork.com. But I can't decide between the two options.
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby velojym » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:47 pm

I only test-rode one at the bike shop, but it was surprisingly nimble for such a long ride. My perspective might have been colored a bit by
the fact that my wife and I ride a tandem, though.
The bike won't endo nearly as easily as a more standard configuration, especially if you have it loaded. Full brakes can be applied where
you may not be comfortable doing it on a 'normal' bike.
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Re: bug out bicycle?

Postby redcrow » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:25 pm

I'm planning a camping trip at a state park in the fall and to get to this state park its hike or bike. The trip is flat ground going from
a paved road to gravel. This camping trip is going to be a mock bug out by bike also.

Now for the help from everyone. I'm 6'4" and right now I'm 350 pounds. The few bikes I can find the info lists a max load of 190lbs,
most companies just don't publish that info. I realize that a touring bike is going to be out of the question. I know if money was no
object i could get a custom bike made. Lets just say I'll walk before i spend a morage payment on a bike...just not in it that much.
Are the wheels the weak link or would the welds brake first? Should I look at getting soild rubber tires, I found a company that
makes both solid rubber innertubes and soild rubber tires without the need for innertubes, would these be better for me? I've read that as long
as i have rims with 36 spokes or more I'll be fine. I'm hoping to both use the bike for this trip and to shed a few pounds. Would a beach
cruiser work to hold me plus enough gear for a 3 day 2 night camp? I found a bike, from a company I've not heard of, that looks to me
to be a good set up for both this trip and as a base for a bug out bike build. Its the Hollandia Holiday though the UrbanCruiser model they
make also looks good too. I'm having a hard time find reviews on this company or their bikes though.
http://www.hollandiafietsen.nl/bicycles/cruisers.html

The other I found is the Mobo Triton Pro which lists its max weight at 250 pounds, this one is a 3 wheeled recumbent. looking at the specs on this one
It will fit my height fine. With this one i'd pull a trailer with my gear. Besides this one just looks fun.
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