Lugnuts GSW kit

[Lugnut]

I'm putting together a GSW kit for my range bag and another for a friend. Any input would be appreciated!

chinookmed.com part numbers and prices...

05175 Olaes Modular Bandage, 4" $6.49
05189 SOF Tactical Tourniquet Wide (SOFTT-W) $28.24
05143 PriMed Compressed Gauze Bandage $1.39
05125 Triangular Bandage $0.37
05169 CELOX-A (Applicator, 6 gr) $26.10
12101 Bolin Chest Seal $18.52
03682 Duct Tape, 2" x 5 yd $2.55
01811 EMT Shears - 5.5" $3.20
01632 NuMask Basic CPR Kit (IOM) $10.73 Not purchased yet

It all fit in a cheap Voodoo EMT pouch ($12-$16).

[KMAC179]

covers all the basics. I can say I am not a fan of celox, and I would think about adding another H&H gauze. Otherwise it is a pretty standard kit.

[Lugnut]

I'm waffling back and forth on the cellox. But I'm thinking if theres a bad wound where the tourniquet cant be applied it could be pretty handy.

Whats your opinion on how to treat something like a gunshot high up on the groin? (serious question! Any input GREATLY appreciated)

[Tac Medic]

You've got the right stuff in there to treat a wound high up in the thigh with, CELOX-A was designed to that, the exit would (if there is one should be packed with Clox gauze or Celox D iitially, then complete your packing with kerkix and large ace wrap..............

[Lugnut]

You've got the right stuff in there to treat a wound high up in the thigh with, CELOX-A was designed to that, the exit would (if there is one should be packed with Clox gauze or Celox D iitially, then complete your packing with kerkix and large ace wrap..............

Hmmm, alright. Thanks for the advice.

What do you think of replacing the triangle bandage with the Ace wrap and adding a roll of cellox/quickclot gauze?

[Tac Medic]

Sorry was half asleep when I posted that. The Celox-A was MADE for actively bleeding penetrating injuries to the extremities, before we had this, we heavily emphasized WOUND PACKING as a step to control bleeding (EMT-basic's) get no training. The cravat you should keep, but I'd still try to jam as much ACE as I could in there. The regular cheap kerlix actually provides a matrix for clotting to occur...........

[Tac Medic]

Technically dude, you should carry THREE LINES of Medical Gear. A pouch in your pocket with a SOF-T or SWAT Tourniquet, some Celox-A, an NPA, Israeli, and some small roll of ACE. Then you carry your little TT First Responder Bag, then in the rig is your big pack. Grab some CELOX-D if you want or some CELOX Gauze......................I'd stay away from the Kaolin (Q-clot).

[Lugnut]

Technically dude, you should carry THREE LINES of Medical Gear. A pouch in your pocket with a SOF-T or SWAT Tourniquet, some Celox-A, an NPA, Israeli, and some small roll of ACE. Then you carry your little TT First Responder Bag, then in the rig is your big pack. Grab some CELOX-D if you want or some CELOX Gauze......................I'd stay away from the Kaolin (Q-clot).

I'm putting together two other packs, one a trauma pack for car accidents that will remain in my trunk. The other is a fanny pack for public events (County fair, HS football games, etc...) where we wander around aimlessly (I'm in class for my EMT-B sponsored by my rescue squad) looking for unsuspecting individuals to mug with bandages and stuff rubber tubes in thier noses. Havent quite decided what I need for THAT pack lol!

The trauma pack will (if all goes well...) eventually also be my SAR bag.

So, I'll eventually have a couple levels of gear

[Tac Medic]

Good for you ! Need anything else, just ask..

[Lugnut]

Ok... Now that I have all the gear I've gone thru several iterations of "Hmmm, how many of THESE should I put in here" Usually followed by "But what about THOSE?" and very often a couple rounds of "Maybe I can make it fit if I do THIS..."



SOOOO....

How many OLEAS/PRI MED gauze/etc... Do YOU all think I should stuff in these trauma kits?

FYI, I ended up using the VooDoo Tactical "EMT pouch" as the containers for these

[Tac Medic]

I don't know how big the pouch is, otherwise I'd be able to tell you Brother........hey, what is with that Asherman ? Thought we talked about that ? ...........The rule of thumb should be to pack three times the BLS supplies you think your going to need for a catastrophic trauma. The "NuMask" thing, someone clue me in, does he just mean a "pocket mask"? If so, that's cool. Learn a modified jaw thrust and throw an NPA your size in there. I've never used duct tape on a wound......so. don't know.

[Lugnut]

I don't know how big the pouch is, otherwise I'd be able to tell you Brother........hey, what is with that Asherman ? Thought we talked about that ? ...........The rule of thumb should be to pack three times the BLS supplies you think your going to need for a catastrophic trauma. The "NuMask" thing, someone clue me in, does he just mean a "pocket mask"? If so, that's cool. Learn a modified jaw thrust and throw an NPA your size in there. I've never used duct tape on a wound......so. don't know.

I edited the post, I did opt for the Bolins after reading your post in the other topic..

I'm using the VooDoo Tactical EMT pouch here http://www.voodootactical.net/p-62-vood ... pouch.aspx

Numask is an intra oral CPR device with valve, http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/ ... -%28IOM%29 substantially smaller than your typical mask

No problem with jaw thrust too, but you know I didnt even THINK about adding an NPA facepalm*

[Tac Medic]

Checked out the pouch. I'd say throw, maybe two sets of non-latex gloves in there. During a bad trauma call, it's a great idea to change your gloves at least twice if you get the chance. For two reasons. If you have more than 1 patient so as not to cross contaminate, and if it truly is a good trauma, you don't want to continue to touch things ie: (GEAR that's commonly used ) that should remain "non-bloody"........I guess in this case, keep the little pouch relatively thin. Don't stuff, the tendency to NOT carry it if it's a "pain" may pop up and you don't want that. That's NOT your goal.

[Lugnut]

I have the kit together and need to take some pics later this week. I opted for the following...

1 SOFT-T wide tourniquet
1 OLAES bandage
2 PRIMED compressed gauze packages
2 ace bandages
1 small roll of duct tape
1 bolin chest seal
1 cellox 15 gram pack
1 cellox A
1 quickclot ACS
1 cravat bandage
2 pairs nitrile gloves

All stuff in a VooDoo Tactical EMT pouch. The numask cpr device was on backorder and the sheers and tourniquet are strapped to the outside with a piece of "velcro one strap"

[Cpt. MelonBuster]

Tagged for future reference.

[Lugnut]

EMT pouch with all contents



Side view


I clipped the elastic so it would open like a clamshell


Loose contents (ACS, Cellox-A, ACE bandage, PriMed gauze) moved so you can see the loops and what they hold. I dropped the gloves and didnt notice til I listed the items.


All contents... Tourniquet is still on front of EMT pouch, just noticed THAT too lol!



And here's a couple pics of the pouch attached to my Trizip





I made a couple of these and will probably be making up a couple more so any comments/criticisms are welcome.