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Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by Some Guy » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:00 am

Some Guy wrote:Bought this bag about 2 years ago and has been on many trips all over the US but so far havent had to use it (no regret at all). It was good for me being a beginner, with very little added to it. The more i keep coming back to this section the more stuff i want to buy. Slowly but surely i will get better but until i am prepared for it (reading and some classes) im not going into trauma supplies yet.

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Pack opened, notice the hook. Great for hanging on a wall or in a closet for quick acess
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Pack completely opened
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Content of the pouch all the way to the right in the (Pack completely opened) photo
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Content of the small open pouches in the second from the right section of the (Pack completely opened) photo
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Content of the pouch in the second from the right section of the (Pack completely opened) photo
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What the original FAK came with
Just came in the mail today
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and some items im thinking about adding
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Now I'm pretty sure i wont need three Sharpies, so what color do you think I should keep. I also don't really see the need to keep the whole pad on me, was thinking about ripping out like 5 sheets and sticking it in my bag. Also, the condoms are in there for emergency water or tourniquet. Do i really need duct tape if I'm going to be carrying around 3m tape? I know i don't need three emergency blankets so I'm only going to keep one and put in 1 roll of Kerlix unless you guys think I should keep two on me. The super glue is only in there till i get me some durabond. Don't really see the need to keep the Ammonia Inhalants unless you guys think its a good idea. They were only like 4 bucks so i said F it and bought them. I bought a starter kit of sutures to practice with so i only plan on keeping two in my bag. Let me know what you guys thinking cause most of you are on a whole other level that I can't even imagine.
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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by Ovationman » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:23 am

Some Guy wrote:
Some Guy wrote:Bought this bag about 2 years ago and has been on many trips all over the US but so far havent had to use it (no regret at all). It was good for me being a beginner, with very little added to it. The more i keep coming back to this section the more stuff i want to buy. Slowly but surely i will get better but until i am prepared for it (reading and some classes) im not going into trauma supplies yet.

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Pack closed
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Pack opened, notice the hook. Great for hanging on a wall or in a closet for quick acess
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Pack completely opened
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Content of the pouch all the way to the right in the (Pack completely opened) photo
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Content of the small open pouches in the second from the right section of the (Pack completely opened) photo
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Content of the pouch in the second from the right section of the (Pack completely opened) photo
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What the original FAK came with
Just came in the mail today
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and some items im thinking about adding
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Now I'm pretty sure i wont need three Sharpies, so what color do you think I should keep. I also don't really see the need to keep the whole pad on me, was thinking about ripping out like 5 sheets and sticking it in my bag. Also, the condoms are in there for emergency water or tourniquet. Do i really need duct tape if I'm going to be carrying around 3m tape? I know i don't need three emergency blankets so I'm only going to keep one and put in 1 roll of Kerlix unless you guys think I should keep two on me. The super glue is only in there till i get me some durabond. Don't really see the need to keep the Ammonia Inhalants unless you guys think its a good idea. They were only like 4 bucks so i said F it and bought them. I bought a starter kit of sutures to practice with so i only plan on keeping two in my bag. Let me know what you guys thinking cause most of you are on a whole other level that I can't even imagine.

Well first off I would suggest a new bag. This one won't hold much of what you just got.

Condoms are not useful for a FAK. Maybe for Water storage in a survival kit but not for your FAK. Useing them as a Tourniquet sounds like a really bad idea. The Triangular bandage is a far better choice for the that job.

The more Kerlix the better.

Duct tape holds better in adverse conditions than medical tape so keep it around.

DO NOT close a wound unless you have been trained in doing so. Therefore do not carry sutures.

Ammonia inhalants are no longer used, dump them.

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Post by Kutter_0311 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:28 am

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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by sprhldr85 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:07 pm

Unless you come across a lot of passed out people who don't wake up when you yell and shake them you really don't need ammonia inhalants.

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Post by offcamber » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:46 pm

sprhldr85 wrote:Unless you come across a lot of passed out people who don't wake up when you yell and shake them you really don't need ammonia inhalants.
Or the condoms.. uggh, just had to go there didn't I?

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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by Ovationman » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:42 pm

sprhldr85 wrote:Unless you come across a lot of passed out people who don't wake up when you yell and shake them you really don't need ammonia inhalants.
They are not used even for that anymore. You risk by the produced reflex making any spinal trauma worse.

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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by AZMedic » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:57 pm

Ovationman wrote:
sprhldr85 wrote:Unless you come across a lot of passed out people who don't wake up when you yell and shake them you really don't need ammonia inhalants.
They are not used even for that anymore. You risk by the produced reflex making any spinal trauma worse.
I still carry them at work. The Firefighters love the NRB and 2 inhalants trick.
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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by Ovationman » Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:45 pm

I guess it all depends on local protocol and they are not in the books anymore I don't think. Still putting them in a FAK sounds like a less than great idea

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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by AZMedic » Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:47 pm

I always wonder if you leave them in front of the airway too long does it then irratate it and cause the skin to slough off like in the old ammonia fires?
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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by Some Guy » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:02 pm

Well I wont be putting the inhalants into my pack. As for the new bag, while i have thought about it, it kills me to get rid of my original pack. I did manage to get two kelrixs, one izzy, two rolls of 2" 3m tape, Sam Splint, Duct tape and EMT Sheers into it. The bag is stuffed pretty good and tight, anything more and i will have to change out the bag.
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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by EricinVirginia » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:25 pm

Power lifters are using smelling salts as a stimulant now and I have had EMTs use them on me on at least 3 occassions to try and break a seizure. They're small, portable, and could be very handy in certain circumstances.

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Post by Apache » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:25 pm

EricinMaryland wrote:Power lifters are using smelling salts as a stimulant now and I have had EMTs use them on me on at least 3 occassions to try and break a seizure. They're small, portable, and could be very handy in certain circumstances.
power lifters?

Did the EMT's have no diazepam/lorazepam? Aww
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Post by EricinVirginia » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:39 pm

Apache... I don't know. Wasn't really in a place to ask. People with me told me later.

Here are smelling salts as a power/weight lifting extreme sports aid... this makes no sense to me, but it must make sense to someone. I'm guessing placebo effect or something. Nose Tork Weight Lifting Aid

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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by Some Guy » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:18 pm

Ovationman wrote:Well first off I would suggest a new bag. This one won't hold much of what you just got.
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Done, now i just need like $5000 to keep up with the other S.T.O.M.P. II bags
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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by Some Guy » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:38 pm

Alright, haven't gotten any new gear from the last time but going to show where the gear is in the bag. Also, going to take some stuff out for my BOB first aid kit. Just recently bought a Medical Kit Bag so need to get some stuff into that.

Outside of bag
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Top flap opened
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Bottom Flap opened
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Inside the zipped up pouch
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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by Some Guy » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:17 pm

Here is my B.O.B. first aid kit. I stole some stuff from my larger bag and will need to get more stuff. Working progress here

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Here is the small amounts of items that are in this bag. A lot of space is left and just need to go out and buy the items for the bag

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Re: Some Guy's F.A.K.

Post by Prepared American » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:01 pm

Condoms are not useful for a FAK. Maybe for Water storage in a survival kit but not for your FAK. Useing them as a Tourniquet sounds like a really bad idea. The Triangular bandage is a far better choice for the that job.
I disagree. Condoms work great in conjunction with a 14g. Angiocath for chest decompression. Something all the premade chest Deco kits leave out is a one way flutter valve. If you stick your needle through a condom first then make you stick, you can unroll it and it will let the bad air out and keep air from re-entering the thoracic cavity thus protecting the patient from a tension pneumothorax. I have used the technique a few time on people with pneumo's and it works very well, especially when your in the field and dont have the means to opperate a pleurevac or have a nice mcswain flutter valve handy.

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