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Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by SweetTea » Wed May 21, 2008 9:57 am

I'm sure most of you are aware that benadryl now makes dissolving strips that can be placed on your tongue. They deliver the exact same payload in a much more convenient package. So, should any of us keep benadryl in the old school pill form in our FAKs? I'm totally willing to carry both if the redundancy is worth it, but are there any points on which the tablets are better?
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by Jamie » Wed May 21, 2008 10:11 am

I have both in my FAK...I bet that repeated freeze/thaw cycles, and/or humidity may stick all of strips together, unless you get each one individually packaged (I got some samples individually packaged, but also bought some that come 10 to a pack)...I've kept, and used, benadryl tablets that were years old without any problem...

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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by Ovationman » Wed May 21, 2008 11:04 am

I only carry pills; if anyone needs faster relief than a pill can give I will be clalling EMS. On a slightly difrent topic, can you grind up/dissolve benadryl pills/strips and use them as a topical anesthetic?

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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by muscleman_coffeemesto » Wed May 21, 2008 11:14 am

I carry the generic benadryl capsules. 25mg, 100ct. One bottle is in my IFAK, the other is part of my allergy kit I keep in my GHB.
50mg tends to knock my ass out in about half an hour. 25mg just makes me tired.
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by crypto » Wed May 21, 2008 11:19 am

I agree with nfa on this. The strips are convenient, but totally useless if it gets humid. They're just like those breath mint strips, they all get stuck together, and eventually gooey.
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by dedpool » Wed May 21, 2008 11:53 am

If they are like those mint breath strips I wont be buying them. Mine melt together every summer
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by southalabama » Wed May 21, 2008 3:09 pm

Since I'm in South Alabama, we always have to take humidity into account.

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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by tilt » Wed May 21, 2008 7:36 pm

The tablets offer time release whereas the strips are more of a quick absorption thing.
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by SweetTea » Wed May 21, 2008 8:39 pm

I didn't know that they even came all in one canister like the listerine strips, that's a dumb idea. Mine come in individual airtight packets that are cut open to reveal one sheet. I wouldn't even consider them if they were that vulnurable to humidity.

Tilt, I see your point. However, I think you'll agree that treating sudden allergic reactions is more important than staving off hay fever. That's not to say that chronic allergies aren't a huge issue for a lot of people (including me sometimes) and that allergies could really mess you up if you had to hoof it through the wilderness or had to sleep in abandoned buildings that have a bunch of mold spores. Thank you for bringing that up, I hadn't thought of the time release factor. I will now be packing both in my big FAK and just the strips in my small FAK.
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by tilt » Thu May 22, 2008 8:24 am

I used to carry the liquid children's benadryl (before the strips came out) for any presentation that required quick results. The capsules work well when broken open and administered SL. The tablets would have to be crushed and a liquid added to alter the buffer to get them to absorb quickly.

When I was on active duty, some of my students would show up for the course with the strips to relieve "allergies"... not the correct use... on more than one occasion, that person found themselves mad-as-a-hatter-and-red-as-a-beet. Just because the package says quick acting doesn't mean the drug is quick metabolising...
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by Jetta » Thu May 22, 2008 4:59 pm

My fiancée had a bad allergy attack last week and I ran out and got the strips. They were individually packed and you need scissors to open it (pretty dumb for something made to carry with you in a pocket). She followed the vague directions and placed one on her tongue, her tongue went numb, then her cheek, then feeling came back to her tongue but her other cheek went numb. It was very strange and not very comfortable for her. It did help, but the side affects were not something she will put up with again, so its back to the pills for this household.

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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by SweetTea » Thu May 22, 2008 11:05 pm

It really bothered her that much? I tried one both to stave off allergies and to compare it to regular benadryl, and found it to be just a bit of a tingle. Having to use scissors is dumb, I agree. I would buy a case of them if they included a notch to rip open. Anyway, I just found it to be some tingly numbness in the roof of my mouth and a little bit of tinglyness in my tongue and throat. However, I thought it was way more than worth it to have the knowledge that the drug was in my system that much faster as opposed to having to be absorbed through my GI tract.
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by Scott Skawronska » Fri May 23, 2008 1:43 am

can you grind up/dissolve benadryl pills/strips and use them as a topical anesthetic
No. Diphenhydramine is not an anesthetic; It is an antihistamine. It needs to work systemically (inside the whole body), not locally (on one location).

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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by Ovationman » Fri May 23, 2008 12:24 pm

Ok I thought I had read it somewhere but Your the Pro so I guess I did not.

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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by Jetta » Sun May 25, 2008 9:59 pm

SweetTea wrote:It really bothered her that much? I tried one both to stave off allergies and to compare it to regular benadryl, and found it to be just a bit of a tingle. Having to use scissors is dumb, I agree. I would buy a case of them if they included a notch to rip open. Anyway, I just found it to be some tingly numbness in the roof of my mouth and a little bit of tinglyness in my tongue and throat. However, I thought it was way more than worth it to have the knowledge that the drug was in my system that much faster as opposed to having to be absorbed through my GI tract.
I would imagine she just had a far more severe reaction than most, which is about norm for her, She is just a delicate flower :lol: For a life threatening reaction she says they are fine, but not worth it for sneezing. So they are in the first aid kit, but not the pantry.

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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by jim96sc2 » Thu May 29, 2008 8:46 pm

Scott Skawronska wrote:
can you grind up/dissolve benadryl pills/strips and use them as a topical anesthetic
No. Diphenhydramine is not an anesthetic; It is an antihistamine. It needs to work systemically (inside the whole body), not locally (on one location).

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Anesthetic, no.. but you can get benadryl creams/ointments for topical allergic reactions.

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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by The Highwayman » Fri May 30, 2008 9:01 pm

tilt wrote:I used to carry the liquid children's benadryl (before the strips came out) for any presentation that required quick results.

I also carry this for any "fast-acting" required applications. They actually come individually packaged in pre-measured and prepackaged doses. The pharmacist I spoke with, said that for an adult having a severe allergic reaction, to administer a second dose if needed (since it is for "children" after all)
I also carry the pills in my car/truck FAK, just in case.
The strips I leave in the Trauma FAK, either at home, or on larger campouts, so as to keep them (and other meds) as temperature stabile as possible.
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by JägerZ » Fri May 30, 2008 9:33 pm

I have the strips in my FAK, they are individually packaged but they're rather difficult to open with your fingers. I have been thinking that adding some tabs to the FAK would be a good idea.
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by blazeben » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:01 am

I have not tried them but would give it a shot. But I am more likely to stick with what I know the best.
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by Ovationman » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:47 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphenhydramine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; . Diphenhydramine also has local anesthetic properties, and has been used for patients allergic to common local anesthetics like lidocaine.[5] AH ha !

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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by sharpenu » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:42 pm

Actually, for local pain relief, they now sell sunburn creams that have lidocaine in them. Try that for a local.

Also, one of the best combo's for allergic reaction is tagamet and benedryl. If you are worried about a severe reaction, get your Doctor to write you a prescription for an Epi pen (or Epi pen Jr for children)

Also, I keep a primatine mist in my bag for allergic reactions. The primary ingredient in there is epinephrine, the same ingredient as in the Epi pen.

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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by Y.T. » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:53 pm

nfa wrote:I have both in my FAK...I bet that repeated freeze/thaw cycles, and/or humidity may stick all of strips together
that has been the problem I've had with all those strip things. the listerine ones melted into a solid block of goo. any moisture gunks them together as well. which would make accurate dosing difficult for any kind of medication.
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Re: Are benadryl tablets obsolete?

Post by Y.T. » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:56 pm

tilt wrote: The capsules work well when broken open and administered SL. .
wow, great idea. I was wondering about that.
tilt wrote:that person found themselves mad-as-a-hatter-and-red-as-a-beet. Just because the package says quick acting doesn't mean the drug is quick metabolising...
another good point. quick acting isn't needed for general allergy discomfort. as I understand it quick acting is more for serious allergy issues resulting from a sting, bite, or food.
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