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Post by congochris » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:40 am

Does it help if our FAK has cartridge loops on it? Because all of my FAK's are pretty small, so no room in them for a pistol. :oops:

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Post by Ovationman » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:56 am

It begs the questions why you need a gun in your FAK.... well i guess there are always those zombies only real treatment option :D

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Post by Citizen Simon » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:37 pm

ovationman wrote:It begs the questions why you need a gun in your FAK....
Tactical medicine- 1st treatment is return fire and gain fire superiority. If you cant even get past step one how do you get to airway or circulation or anything else?

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Post by JIM » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:41 pm

ovationman wrote:It begs the questions why you need a gun in your FAK.... well i guess there are always those zombies only real treatment option :D
Ow well, they need SOMETHING to not be ashamed of, unlike their FAK's... :wink:


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Post by Citizen Simon » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:44 pm

JIM wrote:Ow well, they need SOMETHING to not be ashamed of, unlike their FAK's... :wink:
Big words for a male nurse.
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Post by kyle » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:15 pm

Doc Simon wrote:Tactical medicine- 1st treatment is return fire and gain fire superiority. If you cant even get past step one how do you get to airway or circulation or anything else?
99% of the time when a first aid kit is needed in the US, this won't be a concern. :)

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Post by DocOutlands » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:44 pm

Kyle just lost and proved he's either never had a first-aid class or else slept through it. STEP ONE is "Secure the scene." How can you complete step one if you don't have the right TOOLS?? Not sure I want Kyle working on me - he might have slept thru something *else* too!

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Post by Citizen Simon » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:55 pm

kyle wrote:
Doc Simon wrote:Tactical medicine- 1st treatment is return fire and gain fire superiority. If you cant even get past step one how do you get to airway or circulation or anything else?
99% of the time when a first aid kit is needed in the US, this won't be a concern. :)

Where do I vote?
99.9999% of the time you dont need a gun on you, a lot of people here carry. 99% of american history the shit was not hitting the fan, but everyone on here is preparing for just that. This forum is made up of people that dont want to be ready for the 99% they want to be ready for the 100%.
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Post by kyle » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:09 pm

DocOutlands wrote:Kyle just lost and proved he's either never had a first-aid class or else slept through it. STEP ONE is "Secure the scene." How can you complete step one if you don't have the right TOOLS?? Not sure I want Kyle working on me - he might have slept thru something *else* too!
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kyle wrote:
Doc Simon wrote:Tactical medicine- 1st treatment is return fire and gain fire superiority. If you cant even get past step one how do you get to airway or circulation or anything else?
99% of the time when a first aid kit is needed in the US, this won't be a concern. :)

Where do I vote?
99.9999% of the time you dont need a gun on you, a lot of people here carry. 99% of american history the shit was not hitting the fan, but everyone on here is preparing for just that. This forum is made up of people that dont want to be ready for the 99% they want to be ready for the 100%.
Ouch. Thanks for explaining this forum to me, jerk faces. :)


Yes yes... I know the first priority is to assess and secure the area and prevent any one else (especially me) from getting hurt.

If a weapon is needed, that's what my CCW is for. I don't like having a weapon spread out in every bag or kit I own. That's just adding to the risk for one to get stolen and make it's way into the street.

That's just me and my situation though. Each to their own.
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Post by DocOutlands » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:37 pm

eh-heh. No no, you missed out on the modular part! You have your "trauma module," "tactical module," "ALS module," "Band-aids module," and so on. Apparently you carry your "tactical module" FAK all the time!

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Post by Ovationman » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:47 pm

My guns bigger than your gun :wink:

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Post by ToddGray » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:55 pm

Hey, enough gun talk... now lets FAK off. I'll put mine up soon, though its certainly not the FAK that some of you have aquired.

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Post by Jamie » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:37 pm

TFB's AWESOME FAK BAG finally came, but apparently, he's having some trouble with his internet connection...but he sent me an email of his FAK (bragging I assume), before his connection went down...so I told him that I would post the picture for him...

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Post by Erik » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:50 pm

kyle wrote:
DocOutlands wrote:Kyle just lost and proved he's either never had a first-aid class or else slept through it. STEP ONE is "Secure the scene." How can you complete step one if you don't have the right TOOLS?? Not sure I want Kyle working on me - he might have slept thru something *else* too!
Doc Simon wrote:
kyle wrote:
Doc Simon wrote:Tactical medicine- 1st treatment is return fire and gain fire superiority. If you cant even get past step one how do you get to airway or circulation or anything else?
99% of the time when a first aid kit is needed in the US, this won't be a concern. :)

Where do I vote?
99.9999% of the time you dont need a gun on you, a lot of people here carry. 99% of american history the shit was not hitting the fan, but everyone on here is preparing for just that. This forum is made up of people that dont want to be ready for the 99% they want to be ready for the 100%.
Ouch. Thanks for explaining this forum to me, jerk faces. :)


Yes yes... I know the first priority is to assess and secure the area and prevent any one else (especially me) from getting hurt.

If a weapon is needed, that's what my CCW is for. I don't like having a weapon spread out in every bag or kit I own. That's just adding to the risk for one to get stolen and make it's way into the street.

That's just me and my situation though. Each to their own.
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Post by hailstoneMT » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:59 pm

nfa wrote:TFB's AWESOME FAK BAG finally came, but apparently, he's having some trouble with his internet connection...but he sent me an email of his FAK (bragging I assume), before his connection went down...so I told him that I would post the picture for him...

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Post by DocOutlands » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:00 pm

Win is here.

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Post by Gunny » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:59 am

FYI failure to remove FAK contents from their boxes is an insta-fail.

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Post by Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:11 am

Gunny wrote:FYI failure to remove FAK contents from their boxes is an insta-fail.
Haha, that's not a FAK DocO, that's a shopping trip. :P :wink:
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Post by DocOutlands » Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:52 am

Gunny wrote:FYI failure to remove FAK contents from their boxes is an insta-fail.
Had I done that, my children would have ... decorated themselves. Then I would have posted pics of the FAK I *USED TO HAVE* (and the mummies I now had) and still failed. This way, I at least have a viable position to fail from.
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Post by E » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:49 pm

Gunny wrote:FYI failure to remove FAK contents from their boxes is an insta-fail.
I agree, but I'm unsure of what to put them in instead
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Post by Citizen Simon » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:12 pm

DocOutlands wrote:
Gunny wrote:FYI failure to remove FAK contents from their boxes is an insta-fail.
Had I done that, my children would have ... decorated themselves. Then I would have posted pics of the FAK I *USED TO HAVE* (and the mummies I now had) and still failed. This way, I at least have a viable position to fail from.
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The fact that your kids run the house hold instead of cowering in fear when you are around means less points for you. Even if you delivered them.
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Post by Jamie » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:14 pm

Doc Simon wrote:
DocOutlands wrote:
Gunny wrote:FYI failure to remove FAK contents from their boxes is an insta-fail.
Had I done that, my children would have ... decorated themselves. Then I would have posted pics of the FAK I *USED TO HAVE* (and the mummies I now had) and still failed. This way, I at least have a viable position to fail from.
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The fact that your kids run the house hold instead of cowering in fear when you are around means less points for you. Even if you delivered them.
+1, the standing rule in my house is that if my son wants to play with my FAK, then he has to play with my knives first and pay for an all-access pass to the FAK...with blood :twisted:

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Post by DocOutlands » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:22 pm

Doc Simon wrote:The fact that your kids run the house hold instead of cowering in fear when you are around means less points for you. Even if you delivered them.
I've trained them too well - two pretend to cower in fear and thus draw my attention while the third sneaks off and does stuff. They rotate this duty regularly.
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Post by DocOutlands » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:24 pm

nfa wrote:
+1, the standing rule in my house is that if my son wants to play with my FAK, then he has to play with my knives first and pay for an all-access pass to the FAK...with blood :twisted:
We tried that - only it was his own knife - ended up in the ER w/ his fingertip almost gone, getting 4 stitches. At least we know his knife *is* SHARP.
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