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Re: FAK question

Post by K9medic » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:03 am

I believe some members may have taken offence to the comments "on other" forums. Let's be honest we have no control \ in put on what other forums do or say ( yet in the eyes of the general public we get equal blaim).

As for multables in a bag. I'm a great believer in keeping my bag light (but then I'm old and fat) and presently have the luxury of a secure area to secure spare kit. If I lived in an area were natural disasters are likely to destroy my stores then I would rethink my S.O.P's.

A point to consider, an argument on the internet is unlikely to change anyone's mind, but is likely to send your blood pressure shooting up, and we all know how bad that can be for your health (or as my mum used to say it will end in tears :D)
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Re: FAK question

Post by K9medic » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:03 am

I believe some members may have taken offence to the comments "on other" forums. Let's be honest we have no control \ in put on what other forums do or say ( yet in the eyes of the general public we get equal blaim).

As for multables in a bag. I'm a great believer in keeping my bag light (but then I'm old and fat) and presently have the luxury of a secure area to secure spare kit. If I lived in an area were natural disasters are likely to destroy my stores then I would rethink my S.O.P's.

A point to consider, an argument on the internet is unlikely to change anyone's mind, but is likely to send your blood pressure shooting up, and we all know how bad that can be for your health (or as my mum used to say it will end in tears :D)
"small tin of sardines with easy ringpull (I don't understand why, but I carry it)" Redstain

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Re: FAK question

Post by K9medic » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:03 am

I believe some members may have taken offence to the comments "on other" forums. Let's be honest we have no control \ in put on what other forums do or say ( yet in the eyes of the general public we get equal blaim).

As for multables in a bag. I'm a great believer in keeping my bag light (but then I'm old and fat) and presently have the luxury of a secure area to secure spare kit. If I lived in an area were natural disasters are likely to destroy my stores then I would rethink my S.O.P's.

A point to consider, an argument on the internet is unlikely to change anyone's mind, but is likely to send your blood pressure shooting up, and we all know how bad that can be for your health (or as my mum used to say it will end in tears :D)
"small tin of sardines with easy ringpull (I don't understand why, but I carry it)" Redstain

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Re: FAK question

Post by taipan821 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:40 am

Rds4969 wrote: 18 years as a firefighter/paramedic in one of the busiest Ems systems in the country (I have run over 20,000. 911 calls in my career so far)
Previous flight medic
Previous wild land firefighter on a helitak crew
Previous law enforcement ( yes post certified)
Military with one tour in Iraq
Current paramedic instructor at the local college
Bachelors in fire service administration
Associates in paramedicine
National registry exam proctor
I retract my view... your experience, training and level of care is... well, i'll shut up now.
out of curiosity, bachelor of fire service administration? that sounds like station management to me, is that true?
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Re: FAK question

Post by medic photog » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:54 am

And this is why I keep a low profile and lurk anymore. What I carry I've been trained to use and have used several times. The world of traumatic injury treatment is changing and most of the new modalities are coming from the military side of things. I'll just go back to being quite and being a paramedic and medical specialist on a USAR Team.

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Re: FAK question

Post by IANMCDEVITT » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:06 am

Where do you guys find these people while I'm gone? Can't wait till I get off rotation, huh. Read the forum dude or quickly add 40k more calls and make it thirty plus years in the EMS world.

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Re: FAK question

Post by Kilo147 » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:18 am

My kits are like, 90% Steri Strips, Band-Aids, gauze, and self adhesive wrap. I usually carry enough to actually outweigh the rest of what I have in my edc kit. If somebody wipes out on a bike, or a kid falls, or somebody cuts themselves. I'll just break out my kit and patch them up. I've got a CAT, an Izzy, and surgical padding, a chest seal, and a few other fancy things, but I'm mainly set to help random people in minor situations. Now my actual trauma kit on the other hand, that's getting set up for some serious shit.

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Re: FAK question

Post by Rds4969 » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:05 pm

IANMCDEVITT wrote:Where do you guys find these people while I'm gone? Can't wait till I get off rotation, huh. Read the forum dude or quickly add 40k more calls and make it thirty plus years in the EMS world.
That's pretty impressive. Must be a busy system. What level provider are you.

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Re: FAK question

Post by weatherdude » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:14 pm

Rds4969 wrote:
IANMCDEVITT wrote:Where do you guys find these people while I'm gone? Can't wait till I get off rotation, huh. Read the forum dude or quickly add 40k more calls and make it thirty plus years in the EMS world.
That's pretty impressive. Must be a busy system. What level provider are you.
Ian's a paramedic.
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Re: FAK question

Post by IANMCDEVITT » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:58 am

Thanks Dude, yep, Paramedic, CCEMTP........first one in Connecticut...........19 years ago? EMSI, blah,blah,blah, none of those letters tell what kind of Paramedic a person is though. Wrote the first book ever published about Tactical Medicine BEFORE the war.....just back from West Africa. Went to nursing school also...........hated it. Now got a degree in Vet Medicine and I'm back treating patient's that are worth while............DOGS.......in between 30 weeks a year in Africa..........read the forum ,there are a lot of good medical people here, most just laying low. Welcome. Read the forum.

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Re: FAK question

Post by Stercutus » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:09 am

You go 'round and around it
You go over and under
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Re: FAK question

Post by IANMCDEVITT » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:20 am

Wow, the good old days. Where people can trash you on the errornet. The one dude is hilarious. He's got the dates we all transitioned from CERTS to LICENSES....

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Re: FAK question

Post by CrossCut » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:19 am

IANMCDEVITT wrote:Wow, the good old days. Where people can trash you on the errornet. The one dude is hilarious. He's got the dates we all transitioned from CERTS to LICENSES....
I tossed yours in the cart, along with Coffee's Ditch Medicine, this morning. Have his Emergency Intravenous Therapy DVD and found it very informative, it more than anything else pushed me to finally do it instead of just studying and watching others. Both you and he took some heat in the reviews, I'm looking forward to reading both.

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Re: FAK question

Post by IANMCDEVITT » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:34 pm

Cool. Remember, when you read it, there were no books like that out in '98-'99. I actually went to the old H&K Tactical Medical School with Coffee. I went with my Remote Medical Med Control doctor also. It poured rain for a week.

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Re: FAK question

Post by teotwaki » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:31 pm

The overall First Aid section has been of tremendous benefit to me. In this thread there are arguments against including tourniquets. I would carry at least one because of incidents such as the Boston Marathon bombing, train wrecks, off-roading accidents etc.


Benefit of Tourniquet Highlighted in Boston Explosions
http://www.jems.com/articles/2013/03/be ... on-ex.html

Tourniquet use at the Boston Marathon bombing: Lost in translation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25710432

Of 243 injured, 152 patients presented to the emergency department within 24 hours. Of these 152 patients, there were 66 (63.6% female) experiencing at least one extremity injury, with age ranging from younger than 15 years to 71 years, and with a median Injury Severity Score (ISS) of 10 (range, 1-38). Of the 66 injured patients, 4 had upper limbs affected, 56 had injuries on the lower limbs only, and 6 had combined upper and lower limbs affected. The extremity Abbreviated Injury Scale (AIS) scores had a median of 3 (range, 1-4). There were 17 lower extremity traumatic amputations in 15 patients. In addition, there were 10 patients with 12 lower extremities experiencing major vascular injuries. Of 66 injured patients, 29 patients had recognized extremity exsanguination at the scene. In total, 27 tourniquets were applied: 16 of 17 traumatic amputations, 5 of 12 lower extremities with major vascular injuries, and 6 additional limbs with major soft tissue injury. All tourniquets were improvised, and no commercial, purpose-designed tourniquets were identified. Among all 243 patients, mortality was 0%.
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