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KJ4VOV wrote:All in favor, say "Braaaaiiiinsssss.." er... say "Aye"
Where do we want to put the list? Attach here or start a new thread?
zommoz10 wrote:I don't think it would work.
First of all, there's entire sites devoted to the topic of which radio to get. Such as eham.
Second of all, new radios come out all the time. The list would have to be constantly updated.
Third, not everyone can or should use a "ham" radio. Me for instance, I go boating and I need a radio certified for marine use and don't want to have to use two radios.
There is no one size fits all radio be you a newcomer to the hobby or otherwise and personally, I think that newcomers are best starting out with a mobile or base radio most of the time then again like I said, there's no one-size-fits-all radio.
And lastly, it would leave us with nothing to talk about. And the prospect of that happening makes me very
KJ4VOV wrote:Okay, one more suggestion... How about a set of ZS criteria to "rate" radios on? Things like durability, waterproof, etc?
I like that.
Ruggedness (water resistance, drop resistance, temperature resistance)
Ruggedness to a degree (vibration resistance, temperature resistance)
TacAir wrote:I'll offer this - most newcomers to radio don't have any idea about the gnarly technical aspects of the hobby - hell, a lot of old-timers don't for that matter.
May I suggest that folks that do have radios post how they use the rig (portable, mobile, fixed) and how well they find the radio works for their needs. Factors like battery life, weight and as noted before, ease of use are what most folks are concerned with.
Most of the newer radios have their technical specs posted elsewhere, so the operational ease for the new user may be of more interest.
TacAir wrote:FWIW, I have just wrung out the comms I'm carrying for the summer MBO - an SGC SG2020, tuner and battery, a NVIS antenna (which go in a separate thread if it works well.) I'm also taking a AT-271 to compare the NVIS against.
Trouble is, the radio can only be found used, and rarely at that - the tuner is no longer made and so on. One of the troubles of being an old head - is that the gear is old as well (shrug).
MaconCJ7 wrote: The eham argument you have is flawed from the start (not being argumentative, just making observation). There's sites out there dedicated to every one of the topics we talk about on here. And yet, we all keep coming here.
zommoz10 wrote:Your argument is flawed because while we discuss other topics, we don't create stickies for each one.
MaconCJ7 wrote:zommoz10 wrote:Your argument is flawed because while we discuss other topics, we don't create stickies for each one.
I think a sticky on this subject is warranted for the diverse number of topics about it. We all know the search function sucks, adding 3,000 posts that deal with it doesn't help the average user.
A sticky would consolidate a lot of that, would limit repeat topics, and I think would add to the progress of sub-forum instead of detracting from it. How many people get put off simply because there are so many choices and they have no idea where to start? Those that are determined to get into good commo will find what they are looking for. Those that want to get into it, but are overwhelmed by the options may simply walk away and stay with a CB.
If someone is looking for a radio, finds what they think will work, posts about it here just to find out they made a horrible decision (radio over heats, mic-jack is easily damaged, audio is distorted...) will ask the question the sticky would have already answered.
zommoz10 wrote:But something tells me, the sticky is going to be a list of <$200 monoband portables that will give the user very limited experience with ham radio and they will probably say after a while, "fluck this boring shizz, I'm going to go watch tv"
zommoz10 wrote:But something tells me, the sticky is going to be a list of <$200 monoband portables that will give the user very limited experience with ham radio and they will either lose interest or gain interest and therefore have to get a more capable radio which will then take longer because they just plunked down money onthe portable.
MaconCJ7 wrote:Everyone's budget is different, applications are different, and their goals are different.
KJ4VOV wrote:zommoz10 wrote:But something tells me, the sticky is going to be a list of <$200 monoband portables that will give the user very limited experience with ham radio and they will either lose interest or gain interest and therefore have to get a more capable radio which will then take longer because they just plunked down money onthe portable.
Not so! I was going to list a couple of dual band units.
You have a very valid point though, and one that I hope we render invalid by coming up with a workable format for such a thread. I think the idea of "ZS Real World Criteria" would be a point in such a threads favor. As has been pointed out, tech specs can be had on the manufacturers site, we could put a link to that, but what the average ZS radio newbie seems to want (besides a Star Trek communicator) is realistic information based on real world usage. We can provide that, but we should try and do it in a consistent and easy to read format.
I'd also suggest breaking the list into more than one thread, one for Ham Gear, the other for Non-Ham Gear, and that the ham gear thread be put in the ZSARC section. That puts it where the hams are and where new discussions about ham radio logically should go.
KJ4VOV wrote: I think the idea of "ZS Real World Criteria" would be a point in such a threads favor.
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