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Mister Darks' solar charger quest! UPDATED 2/15/12

Postby Mister Dark » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:51 pm

(UPDATED 2/15/2012: I found something nicer. Look down a few posts.)

One of the potentially huge challenges all of us gear-nuts would face in a disaster is "HOW DO I KEEP ALL MY TOYS CHARGED UP?" Tacticool flashlights, gps devices, radios, cellphones; to one degree or another, we all would be up a creek without them. Sure, I could get by without, but it sure would be nicer to have all this stuff running for more than a couple of hours in the PAW... So, with that in mind, here is a quick write up and review of my BOB battery recharging setup, utilizing the Everlight EL-9 Clip Light.

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The Everlight, with a nice shiny quarter for size reference.

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Clipped to my hat.


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I stumbled on this little fella a few months ago at my local outfitter. It is quite small, yet puts out a very useable amount of light for bumming around camp, or even for night hikes. But the main reason I purchased it is for the recharging ability. I was carrying a Solio 1000 around, and the darn thing was just too big, the internal battery basically sucks, and really never put out the power I was hoping for. The EL-9 is a far better product, in my humble opinion. LOTS lighter weight, smaller, good battery, and has the led headlamp thrown in for good measure.

Now, as with almost everything these days, you can't just buy the product you want and walk off doing what you need. You have to buy the adaptor/converter/widget separately. In their defence, Everlight makes several different charging kits, some less expensive than others. Since I was planning on making the cliplight the centerpiece of my full recharging system, I splurged and bought the MP-1 cellphone kit. It came with a wide variety of charging tips, and had everything I needed to outfit my little charging station. As you can see in the pics, there is an extra line coming off the MP1. This is to attach an extra solar panel, to augument the capacity of the system. I haven't needed it, but it is nice to know it is there.

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The cliplight and MP1 charger setup.

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Charging my Crackberry


The final piece of the setup was the [url=http://www.eneloop.info/products/chargers.html]Sanyo eneloop MDU01 usb battery charger and rechargeable Ni-MH batteries. The charger will work with either AA or AAA, and will charge batteries from other manufacturers. I had recently switched all my equipment over to AA, so all I had to do when I bought the charger was pick up a couple of extra batteries, and I was all set!

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Charging the everlight charger.


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Solar Charging station, all together in a cool little Case Logic harddrive case.

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First, the led headlamp feature of the EL9. This is meant as a low-power device. Definately not someting you will want on the end of your shotgun! That being said, the EL9 puts out plenty of light for any camp chore, and on night hikes, puts a fairly wide pattern out to 10-15 feet. That is plenty enough to see the trail. To be honest, the EL9 has become my "go to" flashlight while in camp, since most "tactical" flashlights are TOO bright for that kind of work. Ever wake up in the middle of the night to take a leak, and blind yourself with your 120 lumen streamlight? Yea, me too. The EL9 hasn't pissed me off like that yet.

Now, on to the charging! I haven't had time to do a proper scientific study of the charging capacity, but I will say that the cliplight has yet to let me down. With a full charge in its battery, at night, it will charge a completely flat Blackberry up to about 25-50% (between 2 and 3 bars on the phone screen) before it is depleted, which is good enough to let me make a few phone calls, text a few dozen times, check my position with GPS, order some ammo from CDT... you get the picture. During the day, the cliplight kept charging for as long as I wanted to let it sit. Ditto with the AA charger. In daylight, it will charge the phone or AA batteries all the way up, but it takes time. It is NOT a quick-charger. This is something you would strap to the top of your pack, run the wiring inside a pouch, and worry about the phone/batteries at the end of the hike. It does that quite well.

All in all, the guys at Everlight have a real winner on their hands. A small, powerful, and adaptable solar charging/lighting solution, that wont break the bank.



Everlight EL9 cliplight; $25 at [url=bigrockoutfitters.com]Big Rock Outfitters[/url]
Everlight MP1 adaptor kit $22 at [url=bigrockoutfitters.com]Big Rock Outfitters[/url]
Sanyo Eneloop charger and 2 batteries (amazon) $13.00

/begin shameless plug: Big Rock is my local outfitter. They are pretty darn cool people, and i have no problem sending anyone to them. I do not work for them, I just like helping out local businesses. The website doesnt have the Everlights listed yet, but they carry em. If you want to get one, help a small "brick and morter" business out, and just give them a call. They will set you up!
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Postby thesupercroc » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:09 am

Great write up. I'm looking for something to keep my BB charged up outdoors. I will have to look in to this more.
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Postby Mister Dark » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:52 am

Thanks man. Another option is the Eton FR160. I have one in my kit as well (for the moment anyway) - it has a usb charger as well, but you pretty much have to sit for a half hour, crankin away, to get a useful charge on a crackberry. This is lighter weight, and solar=easier, at least for me.
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Postby Mister Dark » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:00 pm

Hi all. I just wanted to update my old solar charger post with some new info. While the Everlight is still working, the panel is just a little too small and/or the technology just a little outdated, but I got tired of waiting for the damn thing to recharge a battery or two. Plus, with the extra charging adaptors and all, it wasnt the slickest system going.

A few months ago, I was at the local outfitter and found this little fella. It is a folio-style solar panel and rechargeable battery kit, made by Rothco (I am sure the thing is Chinese, but meh)

I have been carrying the charger in my go bag for a while now, and it has proven itself quite well. The supplied battery by itself will fully charge my Blackberry or iPod in about 90 minutes, a little less if the solar panel is plugged in as well and in full sunlight. The panel will charge the battery back up in 3-4 hours of direct sun, or over the course of a day if hiking in the woods, strapped to the top of my pack. The kit is compact, lightweight (7 oz with 2 small carabiners added) and just plain works. I was concerned at first that it would fall apart after the first week, but honestly I have been tossing it around in and on bags, hauling it on trails, and generally not worrying about it, and it is still working.

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Of course it has proven itself on the trail, but just today I had another reason to like it. I was on a jobsite all day and didnt have a charger cable for my phone. I had the solar panel, so I just plugged in and set the whole mess in a window for a few hours. The phone was charged up AND the battery back to full charge by mid afternoon.

I may sound like a fanboy, and perhaps I am. I like having a way to charge my electronics in the field, I really like it if that way is lightweight and functional. For $35 bucks, whats not to like?

I still have the Everlight rig, its just been moved to the back-up gear pile.
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Postby omega_man » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:05 am

Dude, I totally need to start absorbing your tech knowledge. I am clueless in the world of solar charging, eneloops, smartphones, etc...
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Postby majorhavoc » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:31 am

Yeah, that folio charger looks more capable that the clip light unit you started out with. Are any of those adapters a straight usb plug? Could you hook this solar panel directly to a usb battery charger to recharge AA/AAA batteries?
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Postby Mister Dark » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:15 pm

majorhavoc wrote:Yeah, that folio charger looks more capable that the clip light unit you started out with. Are any of those adapters a straight usb plug? Could you hook this solar panel directly to a usb battery charger to recharge AA/AAA batteries?


Yes, the solar panel outputs directly to a full size usb plug. The Eneloop two-bay usb charger I mentioned in the first post plugs directly in. Kinda neat how this stuff all works together now that USB has become largely Universal! (If the darn cellphone companies would quit coming up with new versions LOL)
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Postby Mister Dark » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:53 pm

omega_man wrote:Dude, I totally need to start absorbing your tech knowledge. I am clueless in the world of solar charging, eneloops, smartphones, etc...



Shoot, it ain't nuthin. I just want to be sure I can still play Angry Birds in the ZPAW.
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Postby omega_man » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:23 pm

Mister Dark wrote:
omega_man wrote:Dude, I totally need to start absorbing your tech knowledge. I am clueless in the world of solar charging, eneloops, smartphones, etc...



Shoot, it ain't nuthin. I just want to be sure I can still play Angry Birds in the ZPAW.


All you need is binos! Cardinals, duh...but, chickadees...they can be very territorial; thus, "angry" (I'm a nerd, I'll shut up now).
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Postby Mister Dark » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:29 pm

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Mister Dark wrote:
omega_man wrote:Dude, I totally need to start absorbing your tech knowledge. I am clueless in the world of solar charging, eneloops, smartphones, etc...



Shoot, it ain't nuthin. I just want to be sure I can still play Angry Birds in the ZPAW.


All you need is binos! Cardinals, duh...but, chickadees...they can be very territorial; thus, "angry" (I'm a nerd, I'll shut up now).



Oh, you mean like this guy?

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Postby Jeffcee » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

Have you tried charging a laptop with it?
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Postby Mister Dark » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:02 am

Jeffcee wrote:Have you tried charging a laptop with it?


Wow. No I havent gotten around to anything that big, I dont have a charger tip for that either. I think it would take a loooong time to charge something as power-hungry as a full laptop though. iPad, iPods, or any tablet? Maybe, if you had the time to wait. But for anything big, you would want a larger panel setup. I havent measured this ones' output just yet, but I am sure it is in the low milliamp (100mA? I'll try to find out) range at most, nowhere near enough to charge a large battery in any sort of time.
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Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:38 pm

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Postby Topcat3111 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:00 pm

just picked up one of those Rothco Solar Chargers last week. Haven't put it through anything really tough yet, but seems to work pretty good for my iPod. Might pick one up for all six of our BOB's. Me, wife, 4 kids with iPods.
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Postby Mister Dark » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:58 pm

As a long-term update, the battery pack for the Rothco seems like it is crapping out a little. I has been exposed to some pretty extreme temps (both super cold, and insanely hot) and I think it is dying. Last fall, it was able to charge my ipod touch to 100% and have a little left over. Today, it only got the ipod to 60-70% before konking out. Now, all I had to do was connect the solar panel and leave it out for a few hours ,and it completed the charge ok. But be aware that the battery may be the weakest link in this particular system.
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Postby TheLastOne » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:37 am

Getting a practical small solar charger is definitely on my to-do list.

Even if the solar's battery craps out, it should be able to directly charge your phone/ipod though, right? Just won't have onboard battery storage?

I've been looking at the joos brand and a few others, but haven't made the time for serious research to make a purchase. I'm essentially looking for the same uses you have: ipod, maybe a gps if I grab one, and the ability to charge my netbook would be gravy too. So far the joos seems to be right up my alley. http://solarjoos.com/products/extras

Also has software to monitor battery health via an app or through your netbook/laptop/whatevs, and says the battery is replaceable! Meaning, your issue could be solved with a new battery instead of a whole new unit. Battery claims to be able to charge a phone 4 times over, solar is supposed to be more efficient than others, and it's 24 oz. $99 is definitely doable imo too. I've found a bunch of pre-release reviews but haven't dug enough for any new news. Looks like they sell a bunch of adapters and even some side mirrors to magnify solar input... I'm going to have to dig more on this.
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Postby Mister Dark » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:27 pm

Interesting. May be my next "mad money" purchase. Thanks for the tip!

Hmm. Monocrystalline panel, Li-ion battery, smart charging... Yea, may be my next toy. A little big, but thats what you get for quality I suppose. Would be a good kit for the car or house bags.

dang. Another thing to buy... :cry:
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Postby zukidriver » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:58 pm

Has anybody tried Goal zero? They have a bunch of different sizes. Even big enough to charge a laptop or run a portable fridge. I have heard some good reviews of them but haven't gotten around to playing with one myself yet.
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Postby TheLastOne » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:32 am

Mister Dark wrote:Interesting. May be my next "mad money" purchase. Thanks for the tip!

Hmm. Monocrystalline panel, Li-ion battery, smart charging... Yea, may be my next toy. A little big, but thats what you get for quality I suppose. Would be a good kit for the car or house bags.

dang. Another thing to buy... :cry:



I googled a little but didn't come up with much. There just isn't a lot of (easy) info on portable solar chargers that doesn't read like an ad that I can find. Joos seems to have a proprietary cable that people think is a downside. It does seem to charge stuff really fast as promised though according to what I've read. I tried looking in backpack/hiking forums but no body seems keen on solar. Seems like it's easier to carry extra battery power. Nobody is thinking longer term like us.
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Postby austin93906 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:56 pm

I just bought one last night (goal zero mobile kit, which contains their Nomad 3.5watt panels and their Guide 10 plus battery pack) but i got it from REI, so even though i did hardly any research on it, i know i can bring it back if i find one that suits me better (100% satisfaction guarantee)

So far i like it. The Guide 10 battery pack charges 4 NiMh batteries that are inserted into the pack. Four 2000mAh LSD batteries are included, making it an 8000mAh battery pack.

The Nomad 3.5 solar panel is supposed to charge the Guide 10 in 6 hours, which, when compared to other solar battery packs taking 8-10 hours to charge their 2000mAh internal batteries, is quite a good charge rate. IF it ever charges at that rate.

You can basically charge anything with a USB cable as far as i understand it using the Guide 10 battery pack. Supposedly you can also charge devices directly from the usb port on the Solar panel itself, although the 3.5 watt wasnt designed for it (the Nomad 7 panel IS designed for it) however i havnt tested this because it supposedly requires good direct sun, and its an overcast day.
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Postby acestor » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:12 am

I have had the Joos solar panel for over a year. It charges my iPhone quickly and without any problem. According to their WEB page, it will also charge an iPad but not a laptop. It is not small, nor light, but it is very durable - a major consideration in survival gear. I am still looking for a battery charging setup, probably using USB, to use the Joos to charge triple A and double A batteries to keep my other equipment running. Joos needs to sell this. I highly recommend the Joos solar panel- efficient and virtually bulletproof but relatively big and heavy but can supply the power you need to keep your small appliances running in a survival situation. This was my choice to keep my iPhone (with all of its maps, books, and other survival information) up and running in a survival situation.
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Postby Mister Dark » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:24 pm

acestor wrote:I have had the Joos solar panel for over a year. It charges my iPhone quickly and without any problem. According to their WEB page, it will also charge an iPad but not a laptop. It is not small, nor light, but it is very durable - a major consideration in survival gear. I am still looking for a battery charging setup, probably using USB, to use the Joos to charge triple A and double A batteries to keep my other equipment running. Joos needs to sell this. I highly recommend the Joos solar panel- efficient and virtually bulletproof but relatively big and heavy but can supply the power you need to keep your small appliances running in a survival situation. This was my choice to keep my iPhone (with all of its maps, books, and other survival information) up and running in a survival situation.



Cool man, thanks for the info. Long term reliability is certainly a plus with any rig like this.

Have you looked at the sanyo eneloop chargers? Standard usb input, charges 2 AA or AAA at a time, not very expensive at all. May be worth a look.
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Postby moab » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:36 am

This is the sweet spot IMHO. Charges 5 watt items. Provides a female cig plug. Which you can adapt to anything. USB included. You just need a male cig plug to usb adapter. $2 maybe.

This charger is $58 delivered.

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