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Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by RonnyRonin » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:13 pm

I would like to put a flashlight in each of my trauma kits/BOKs/FAKs.

I'm fairly well versed in mid-range flashlights, surefire, fenix, streamlight, etc. and have owned quite a few. but I don't know low-end flashlights very well and can not find what I am looking for.

MUST have features:
1) single AA
2) push button
3) $20 or less

Preferred features:
single output mode, somewhere between 15 and 50 lumens. More modes are OK, but not preferred.


a lot of pocket lights run on AAAs, but I am trying to remove those from my life and certainly will not have spares in my BOB/INCH or fighting rig. I also have a solar charger that can recharge AAs.
My EDC light is a fenix ld15 that I have been very happy with. It is a twist-on light which means it doesn't get accidentally turned on in my pocket like my streamlight micro-stream used to, but it is pretty awkward to use one-handed and certainly would not expect to be able to with greasy/wet/bloody hands.
$20 or less is because I need to outfit about 5 different kits, and I'm on a collage budget right now. If I can't find a light in budget I'll have to buy fewer, more expensive lights and prioritize which kits get them.

And before anyone even BREATHS a word about mini-maglites, NO. I have owned several, and they have all failed miserably. My friend's have failed, and my families' have failed. I have seen more mini-mags fail then any other single product in my life. NO.

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this is as close as I've found but it's a twisty.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by aus.templar » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:12 am

For a FAK, unless it's for optical-response then dw about a flashlight.. get a headlamp.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by RonnyRonin » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:50 pm

aus.templar wrote:For a FAK, unless it's for optical-response then dw about a flashlight.. get a headlamp.
I was planning on mouth-holding but I've definitely considered headlamps, the problem is that the market gets even smaller. I bet a cookie you can't find a headlamp that meets my criteria. the rare ones that use AA are way over budget and usually fairly fiddle-intensive with the controls.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by docdredd » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:56 pm

Get a headlamp..

Your not holding a flashlight and doing any real first aid.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by docdredd » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:03 pm

You will thank me, I promise. I used a flashlight for 1 week in Baghdad , and then had my wiffe ship me a headlamp. http://www.amazon.com/Fenix-Flashlights ... fenix+hl21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by painiac » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:56 pm

It's unanimous: get a headlamp. The first time you drop your flashlight or have to touch or adjust it with bloody gloves, you're not going to want to put it back in your mouth...

docdredd, that fenix headlamp looks awesome. I'm definitely putting that on my shopping list.

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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by Browning 35 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:12 pm

There's the Fenix HL30.

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It uses two AA's and it has several brightness settings (turbo: 200 lumens - High: 100 - Mid: 45 - Low: 4 - Red light mode: 4 lumens and SOS: 45).

They're $38.96 @ Amazon w/free shipping and on mine they sent me some rechargeable batteries and a nifty charger for free as well (that was a few months back, I don't know if they're still doing that or what). I've used mine a couple times, works real well.

So it's double the price of a cheapie flashlight and it uses two AA's instead of one. That's about the best deal that I know of on headlamps though.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by docdredd » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:21 pm

painiac wrote:It's unanimous: get a headlamp. The first time you drop your flashlight or have to touch or adjust it with bloody gloves, you're not going to want to put it back in your mouth...

docdredd, that fenix headlamp looks awesome. I'm definitely putting that on my shopping list.

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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by majorhavoc » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:25 pm

For a FAK, I have to agree with other posters that it's a headlight you want, not a flashlight. Actually, most people who "want" flashlights actually need a headlight.

Having said that, and acknowledging that you said AA battery power is a must-have feature, if it's a simple, quality compact flashlight you want, it's really hard to beat the AAA-powered Coast G10 for free (well, $3.50 to cover shipping).

https://www.coastportland.com/surveys/survey-cc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have this light. It lives in the tank bag on my KLR 650. I cannot begin to tell you how many times I use this light. It's totally worth the $3.50 and your time completing the survey.

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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by Brotherbadger » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:28 am

What you really need is a headlamp(The felix docdredd linked is very nice and will do the job nicely). HOWEVER, if you are deadset on a flashlight, I'd recommend a Streamlight Stylus Pro. It's nice and small, it is under $20, but it uses 2 AAA batteries. It's my EDC flashlight and is perfect for lighting up small areas.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by RonnyRonin » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:07 pm

If I were to get a headlamp, I'd get the HL21. I had to talk my Dad into one to replace his Petzl, Its about the only headlamp on the market I like (other then the double priced zebralight) I wasn't blown away by the controls though.

what I'd rather have is a small flashlight and make my own headstrap, ala this:
http://www.knifecenter.com/item/KLHB/Kl ... EDC-Lights" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I understand I need two hands for first aid, no one needs to convince me.

having said that, I don't think anyone actually read my OP, if AAA was acceptable I would have no problems finding a light, there are hundreds of single AAA lights on the market that fit my needs, other then the fact that they are AAA. I'm a big believer in EDC lights and have tried several, I am happy with the one I have and know what I will buy if I have to replace it.

I'm starting to think the light I asked for might not exist, if no one knows of one I'll probably buy the Olight I2 I linked in the OP.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by Murph » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:39 pm

Like other people said, headlamps are the way to go.

But to play along and answer the OP's question...

I have a couple of the AAA Coast lights (Only branded as whatever...) that majorhavoc mentioned. I liked them enough to buy a couple, and they stand up pretty well to being used. I had one on my key chain for about a year.
majorhavoc wrote:Having said that, and acknowledging that you said AA battery power is a must-have feature, if it's a simple, quality compact flashlight you want, it's really hard to beat the AAA-powered Coast G10 for free (well, $3.50 to cover shipping).
For AA, the best I've found is Energizer's Tactical 1W LED light:
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Tactica ... B0018OUWQO" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Again, I've got a couple of them. They've held up pretty good. Again, I had one on my key chain for about a year. It took lots of abuse, and flickers now, so there is probably a loose contact or something. I'd still give it a thumbs up through.

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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by gun toting monkeyboy » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:52 pm

As the others have note, a headlamp is always a good thing. Occasionally, Costco will sell AA-powered 3 packs of really nice LED ones for $25-30. Not a bad deal, as they usually have 2-3 different modes, and can put out a bit of light, or a whole lot. Gearhog.com also runs a deal every few weeks for a LED flashlight that can run on either an AA or CR123 battery, and is in the 100+ lumen range in the $20 range. It isn't a head light, but it does work. Another suggestion would be a Maglight mini-mag. It is a 2 AA light, but you can get the LED versions most places. It puts out a lot of light for its size, and doubles as a wicked, but very innocuous kubaton or impact weapon. I was traveling in Europe this last spring, and I had a hell of a time trying to carry a knife with me in England. But nobody blinked twice at the minimag. The one other thing that I might recommend, even though it doesn't run on AA batteries, is one of the Everready head lights that they sell at most Walmarts. It is tiny, and powered by a 2032 lithium battery. I know it isn't exactly what you are looking for, but it is inexpensive, and both the light and extra batteries are small enough that you can stuff them in a small pocket in your bag as an extra or a back-up. The last few times I went traveling, I made sure I had one in my backpack or pocket.

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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by RonnyRonin » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:52 pm

Murph wrote:
For AA, the best I've found is Energizer's Tactical 1W LED light:
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Tactica ... B0018OUWQO" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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THATS more like it. bigger then I'd like but for that price I won't complain. I think we have a winner.

tell me about the button, will I need to tape it to keep it from getting turned on accidentally?

gun toting monkeyboy wrote:Another suggestion would be a Maglight mini-mag. It is a 2 AA light, but you can get the LED versions most places.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by Murph » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:39 pm

RonnyRonin wrote:THATS more like it. bigger then I'd like but for that price I won't complain. I think we have a winner.
tell me about the button, will I need to tape it to keep it from getting turned on accidentally?
The rear tail switch for the Energizer is a standard forward clicky. You can half push it for monetary on, or push it till it clicks for constant on. (Same for the Coast light too.)

If you prefer a different switch method, I've got the River Rock AA light, and Life+Gear AA light. I can't remember off-hand which methods they have, but each is different.

I suppose if you really wanted to make sure any of them didn't accidentally turn on, you could unscrew the end cap half way or something. But you'd lose any water resistance they'd have.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by BloodLust » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:38 pm

A compromise would be a AA flashlight and a headstrap.

The Fenix E11 would fit right in but it's $27.
If you can find the Inova X1, that should be in the $20 range.

I'm streamlining all my gear to run on AAs since I have a Goal Zero Guide 10 Plus AA/AAA charger and Nomad 7 Solar Panel.

For a pure headlamp, the Fenix HL21 is my current go to light.
I have a Fenix LD10 (my EDC) and an MC11 angle light. Both run on AAs but cost about $45 each.

Regarding the LED Mini Maglite, it's a good light for the money if you could get past the PWM. Because of that, I really notice the flickering and it's very annoying. I keep mine in the car wih a spare set of AAs.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by Das Sheep » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:16 am

I picked up a surefire helmet lamp on e-bay brand new for like $35.

You can get them pretty often for cheap since they are not as popular as the flashlights.

Good lamp if you are planning on wearing a helmet in a situation where you need to treat someone with an ifak.

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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by allofthemonkeys » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:08 pm

Look at the Princeton tec byte. 15$ head lamp, runs on two AAA batteries.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by hotlead » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:40 pm

RonnyRonin wrote:
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gun toting monkeyboy wrote:Another suggestion would be a Maglight mini-mag. It is a 2 AA light, but you can get the LED versions most places.
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What's wrong with the minimag?

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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by olbaid_dratsab » Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:13 pm

Regardless of what you go for, I would say to get one with a green lense to flip into place. Blood really pops in green light and could be pretty helpful with your initial pt assessment.

As for the mini-mag, I used the same led one for years. Had it on me at all times on my last deployment in 07, hiked 700 mi withIit and had it for general use since. Its been a pretty bad ass light for me n I beat the hell out of it.
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by painiac » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:47 am

What's wrong with the minimag?
Personally, my experience with them has been that they are everything a piece of EDC gear should not be: Chincy, fragile, and unreliable. I've owned and carried five mini-maglites, and every single one of them has failed prematurely without abuse.

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Post by 74 or more » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:56 am

Whats wrong with AAA?
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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by Mikeyboy » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:17 am

hotlead wrote:
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Murph wrote:


gun toting monkeyboy wrote:Another suggestion would be a Maglight mini-mag. It is a 2 AA light, but you can get the LED versions most places.
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Seriously? I'll give the benefit of assuming this is in jest.
What's wrong with the minimag?

They're tough, inexpensive, reliable, and your old ones can be upgraded to LED. They're a great handheld light for in camp or when looking into rooms, packs, vehicles, or whatever, without being blinded by reflection. We've got probably 20 of them spread around packs, night stands, and cars.

Not the end all, be all flashlight, but a steady soldier none the less.
Minimags are like having a horse on the highway. Back in the day everyone had a horse, and it will still get you from point A to Point B, but there is so many better and cheaper options these days.

A CREE LED flashlight will be physically smaller, more durable, significantly brighter and have tons more battery life than a traditional Minimag, even if you go thru the extra expense of upgrading the minimag to LED.

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Re: Help me find a flashlight for my FAKs

Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:27 am

http://www.amazon.com/Petzl-E02-P2-Head ... B001SARHV6

I really like my E-lite. One of our corpsman swore by them, they come in a handy waterproof crush-resistant container, and they're wee. I think I paid $15 for P2 at REI during a sale.
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