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chest rig recommendation/features

Postby gearguy141 » Sun May 27, 2012 6:23 pm

hey, what is ZS's favourite features for a chest rig ? recently ive been making tactical gear and im trying to create an all around great rig but im not sure what i should include ?
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby Winston Smith » Sun May 27, 2012 8:04 pm

If you're making the style that just has a neck strap and a lower back strap, just make sure the neck strap is wide enough not to cut in.

If you're looking to make gear, how about "Spall Bags" for metal/Titanium body armor plates. These plates are inexpensive and ultra durable, but can cause bullet fragments to spray up and down from the impact, and without a spall bag, these can wind up in the wearers arms, legs, and face. I've never heard of them anywhere so it's an untapped market.
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby Arkane » Sun May 27, 2012 8:10 pm

Dave had a good thread around here about basic setups but I can't find it. That being said there's a couple of rig threads and you should be able to pull some common layouts from them. If you're looking at making some real money then custom work is the way to go.

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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby AKFTW » Sun May 27, 2012 8:48 pm

Wide, unpadded straps, integral pouches for rifle mags, and just enough molle to get the job done. I'm partial to cross straps as well, though some like the H-harness style. This is my perfect rig:
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby deMaccusweil » Mon May 28, 2012 1:34 pm

Heyyyyy, liking the wooden folding stock above :mrgreen:

A chest rig is IMHO only any good if you are driving a vehicle and proper webbing is going to interfere. I guess a good design depends on what you want to do with it.
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby jhumes » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:36 pm

I know this gear is made for air soft but for 2 years it has held up. I modded mine for a cross rig for my Kimber BP Ten II.



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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby omega_man » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:18 am

I've owned and worn way too many chest rigs. All of them had seen some dirt time downrange, so I have a decent understanding of what has worked for me (emphasis on, me). First off, I'm a TAG fanboy. I'm not saying copy them. Just see how they are doing it. God, how I wish the Intrepid rig was available while I was still in. With that said, are you looking to outfit military dudes or recreational shooters? I loved TAG as a military guy because they incorporated stuff like MBITR, GPS, smoke, and frag pouches. For civilian shooting, non of these features are necessary. So, a good start:
-wide shoulder straps, little to no padding
-"H" style straps, crossed straps always end up binding around my neck, especially while wearing armor
-hydration pouch (easy to incorporate with H-style straps)
-"shingle" style rifle mag pouches
-MOLLE webbing over everything else
-an interesting design idea might be to incorporate a FAK or blow out pull-out on the far right or left hand side "shingle" style in line with the rifle mags, something really lo-profile

-same idea as above, but with Kydex insert for sidearm

I'm visualizing the above features as a lo-pro rig with FAK pull-out, integrated pistol holster (not always the best way to carry, but great for grab-n-go; also, if SHTF and you have to wear a ruck, that nice Raven concealment holster is going to start sucking real fast), at least 4 rifle mags, MOLLE webbing for attaching pistol mag pouches (or build them in), and hydration.

That covers the absolute basics while giving the user options to customize.
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby Regular Guy » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:48 am

I have this: http://www.patriotsurplus.com/mp9848.ht ... SurplusCSE

And I love it. I also have a couple condors ( :ohdear: ) which are fine, sure, they'll eventually give up the ghost but they were affordable. Along with that I have a couple of Specter Gear Chest rigs in 7.62x39, 7.62x51mm and a 5.56x45mm. All the Specter rigs fit my low speed, high drag tactics. I really like them.

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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby omega_man » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:52 am

This is my current go-to. Although, I usually just a run a belt rig at the range these days.

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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby Murph » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:12 am

gearguy141 wrote:hey, what is ZS's favourite features for a chest rig ? recently ive been making tactical gear and im trying to create an all around great rig but im not sure what i should include ?


Based on the comments I've seen over the years, it has to be dirt cheap and work with any size and brand of mag... AR15, AK47, FAL, Sub2000, Mini-14... Metal, Polymer...

There's only a couple handfuls of guys on here that spend good money on their rifle gear here. And those are the guys that probably have figured out what they like and what works for them personally, and no two are quite the same. Not to mention, they're probably already squared away with gear.

So if you're looking to design a product, think of the average joe that only has a few bucks left over from their paycheck to spend. Not glamorous, but there it is.
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Re: Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby Captain_Obvious » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:27 am

Murph wrote:
gearguy141 wrote:hey, what is ZS's favourite features for a chest rig ? recently ive been making tactical gear and im trying to create an all around great rig but im not sure what i should include ?


Based on the comments I've seen over the years, it has to be dirt cheap and work with any size and brand of mag... AR15, AK47, FAL, Sub2000, Mini-14... Metal, Polymer...

There's only a couple handfuls of guys on here that spend good money on their rifle gear here. And those are the guys that probably have figured out what they like and what works for them personally, and no two are quite the same. Not to mention, they're probably already squared away with gear.

So if you're looking to design a product, think of the average joe that only has a few bucks left over from their paycheck to spend. Not glamorous, but there it is.

Yep. After the rifle, mags, ammo, and shit to hang off of it, not much was left over for a rig. I got a condor recon chest rig. http://www.aftactical.com/condor-recon- ... re=default. Airsoft gear, but I like it. It does rub my neck when wearing rifle armor, but not with my normal soft armor. OT, one specific feature is pull tabs for rifle mags instead of Velcro flaps. Just my preference.
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby JustInCase » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:20 am

Very nice!

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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby gearguy141 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:23 am

omega_man wrote:This is my current go-to. Although, I usually just a run a belt rig at the range these days.

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hey , how is tags quality when compared to like tt or hisgi ? and im looking for mostly le and and civilians that want some , for the most part once i get squared away it will be custom only orders. but ill probably throw a few free specimens out for testing etc.
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Re: Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby gearguy141 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:25 am

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gearguy141 wrote:hey, what is ZS's favourite features for a chest rig ? recently ive been making tactical gear and im trying to create an all around great rig but im not sure what i should include ?


Based on the comments I've seen over the years, it has to be dirt cheap and work with any size and brand of mag... AR15, AK47, FAL, Sub2000, Mini-14... Metal, Polymer...

There's only a couple handfuls of guys on here that spend good money on their rifle gear here. And those are the guys that probably have figured out what they like and what works for them personally, and no two are quite the same. Not to mention, they're probably already squared away with gear.

So if you're looking to design a product, think of the average joe that only has a few bucks left over from their paycheck to spend. Not glamorous, but there it is.

Yep. After the rifle, mags, ammo, and shit to hang off of it, not much was left over for a rig. I got a condor recon chest rig. http://www.aftactical.com/condor-recon- ... re=default. Airsoft gear, but I like it. It does rub my neck when wearing rifle armor, but not with my normal soft armor. OT, one specific feature is pull tabs for rifle mags instead of Velcro flaps. Just my preference.

hey, for my rigs ill be using shock cord midway down the mag pouch for retention , im also looking into kydex inserts.
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby AKFTW » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:25 am

TAG is awesome, better build quality than TT from my observations. I own a few pouches from TAG and TT, and only one from HSGI, but I would trust any of them to hold up.
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby omega_man » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:23 pm

IMHO, TAG is the best. I still own 2 out of the 4 rigs I've purchased from them, plus a ton of pouches. I've worn them in jungles, long ocean swims to beach insertions, and all over Iraq. TT is good, but TAG is a step up. Some of my Marines had HSGI rigs, those were really impressive as well.
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby stimpy321972 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:21 pm

AKFTW wrote:Wide, unpadded straps, integral pouches for rifle mags, and just enough molle to get the job done. I'm partial to cross straps as well, though some like the H-harness style. This is my perfect rig:
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who makes that rig, if I may ask ?
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby AKFTW » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:10 pm

stimpy321972 wrote:
AKFTW wrote:Wide, unpadded straps, integral pouches for rifle mags, and just enough molle to get the job done. I'm partial to cross straps as well, though some like the H-harness style. This is my perfect rig:
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who makes that rig, if I may ask ?


http://www.uwgearinc.com/

This was a one-off custom I had commissioned, but I'm sure they could make you one like it if you ask nicely :mrgreen:
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby stimpy321972 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:47 pm

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stimpy321972 wrote:
AKFTW wrote:Wide, unpadded straps, integral pouches for rifle mags, and just enough molle to get the job done. I'm partial to cross straps as well, though some like the H-harness style. This is my perfect rig:
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who makes that rig, if I may ask ?


http://www.uwgearinc.com/

This was a one-off custom I had commissioned, but I'm sure they could make you one like it if you ask nicely :mrgreen:




That looks awesome, thanks for the link. I think that would work with some taco's, either combo or pistol mags on the left side and a FAK on the right side.
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby Niblick » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:52 pm

Stimp, if you're looking to run tacos why not just get a plain PALS grid?

OT: the recommendations I'd make depend wholly on clientele. No LEO or .mil customer In the US is going to need mag pouches that fit x39s. If I were making rigs, I'd do 3-4 5.56 single mag pouches with some Molle on the sides (kinda like akftw's rig) and then make some pistol mag pouches, ifak pouch, and then offer some "sets" as deals to maximize profit.
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby gearguy141 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:26 pm

Niblick wrote:Stimp, if you're looking to run tacos why not just get a plain PALS grid?

OT: the recommendations I'd make depend wholly on clientele. No LEO or .mil customer In the US is going to need mag pouches that fit x39s. If I were making rigs, I'd do 3-4 5.56 single mag pouches with some Molle on the sides (kinda like akftw's rig) and then make some pistol mag pouches, ifak pouch, and then offer some "sets" as deals to maximize profit.

im not to horribly worried about profit , ill make 5 on the small 10 on the bigger gear. i get most of my sewing stuff free through a program at work. apparently the moneys for us to develop stress reducing hobbys and this is mine ;).
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby stimpy321972 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:06 pm

Niblick wrote:Stimp, if you're looking to run tacos why not just get a plain PALS grid?



My plan is to run a full and functional "battle belt" with combo tacos and use the chest rig as back up storage.
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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby TheLastOne » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:38 pm

stimpy321972 wrote:
Niblick wrote:Stimp, if you're looking to run tacos why not just get a plain PALS grid?



My plan is to run a full and functional "battle belt" with combo tacos and use the chest rig as back up storage.



That sounds familiar :mrgreen:


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Re: chest rig recommendation/features

Postby gearguy141 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:47 pm

TheLastOne wrote:
stimpy321972 wrote:
Niblick wrote:Stimp, if you're looking to run tacos why not just get a plain PALS grid?



My plan is to run a full and functional "battle belt" with combo tacos and use the chest rig as back up storage.



That sounds familiar :mrgreen:


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damn thats a nice setup!
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