Titanium Bat with Potable Water Inside?

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Titanium Bat with Potable Water Inside?

Postby Vertebral Rend » Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:30 pm

The multiple-use tool is essential for PAW scenarios. The hollowed-out bat filled with enough water to give additional weight when swinging through undead/PAW mutant menaces.

I looked up titanium, and it doesn't have any harmful carcinogenic properties.

Loading bats haven't been brought up here, or if they have, I haven't been paying attention, and apologize. I think that the extra weight of the water is perfectly viable. A water-jug and bludgeoning device all in one!

Edit: I'm all up for making one, as soon as I get some duckets.
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Postby wilycyt » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:14 pm

unless you constantly kept it filled all the way up, one problem i could see is noise. If you used a metal bat and filled it with water, the sloshing sound might get pretty noticable while your moving.

Also im not sure the bat would hold up to the extra interior weight. even without the water they are they arnt exactly the best weapon for rampant abuse, the extra weight might just cause it to break/bend more than usual.

that being said, i would hate to be on the recieving end of one of those (water = 8lbs/gallon :shock: )
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Postby kyle » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:28 pm

This sounds like a project that needs some stress testing.

Aluminum may be easier to work with.

We need to do that door frame test at some point as well to find out how many "zombies" it takes to push a regular door or door frame in.
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Postby SMERSH » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:31 pm

huh?
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Postby kyle » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:37 pm

SMERSH wrote:huh?


Titanum Bat - A bat is this device used in a game called Base ball. It has been proven to be a great tool against the zombie menace. Titanium is a material sometimes to make bats because it's light but holds up better than aluminum or wood.

warning: Don't confuse the above mentioned bat with the nocturnal mouselike mammal. Swinging a small mammal at the undead is not recommended.

Potable Water - This is a liquid needed to hydrate your body so you don't fall over and die. Water is one of the four classical elements in ancient Greek philosophy and science. "Potable" means it is suitable for drinking.
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Postby SMERSH » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:14 pm

i thought titanium was water soluble
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Postby michelle » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:22 pm

Very few (if any) metals are actually water soluble. As my Ti crowbar has been wet without dissolving, I'm fairly certain it isn't water soluble.
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Postby Vertebral Rend » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:27 pm

Not only is Titanium not water soluable, it don't rust, is shock resistant, and has a hardness scale of about 6.0.

And as for noise, well, it'd be contained, and I bet it would make as much noise as a canteen or water jug.
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Postby kyle » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:34 pm

Vertebral Rend wrote:Not only is Titanium not water soluable, it don't rust, is shock resistant, and has a hardness scale of about 6.0.

And as for noise, well, it'd be contained, and I bet it would make as much noise as a canteen or water jug.


Canteens have always been a problem which is why the military now has those fancy sqeezable plastic ones.

I don't think it will be as loud as a canteen since the metal is much thicker. Maybe.
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Postby wilycyt » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:52 pm

wouldnt that thing be really heavy to weild?

sure, a bat is manuerable enough but i bett you would get tired really quick swinging that thing.



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Postby Creaux » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:06 pm

I'd figure on maybe a third to a half gallon of water, meaning the weight should be pretty comfortable.

I'd make sure that the plug on the handle was tight, though, or you might get a refreshing shower mid-battle.
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Postby LD! » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:08 pm

how muhc water whould one of these hold?
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Postby Creaux » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:57 pm

You might buy a cheap whiffleball bat and find out.
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Postby LD! » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:23 pm

will do I got my good old wooden bit with a nit stickout out to end to poke stuff with tho and it I lean on it and what ever other used I can think of
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Postby Creaux » Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:46 pm

LD! wrote:will do I got my good old wooden bit with a nit stickout out to end to poke stuff with tho and it I lean on it and what ever other used I can think of


:shock:

I agree completely, in part and whole.
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Postby BloodLust » Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:48 pm

That would mean that the bat would be hollow. For it to be sturdy and heavy enough as titanium is really light for a metal, it must be filled with water at all times. Hitting something for prolonged periods while empty may cause it to deform.

The capacity that the bat can hold may be little. For it to hold a sufficient ammount of water, the walls of the bat would be thin, therefore making it less durable. You're better off with bringing emergency packets of water. They take up minimal space. Or even a collapsible water jug as they are used, the volume of the container also decreases, making more space in you're bag in case you come accross some gear you would like to take.

As kyle mentioned in another thread, you might end up with multiple crappy items rather than 2 dependable pieces of equipment (I don't know the exact quote, but it's somewhere along those lines. :) ). Quality often outweighs the heaviness factor of bringing equipment. There's a fine line between quality and functionality, and oftentimes, to get both, there is a price to pay. And if you lose 1, you lose the other.

And once the bat breaks and is covered with zombie brains/blood/skin/flesh/etc, I wouldn't want to put my mouth to that thing. Therefore, I wouldn't want to drink from it. Actually anything to do with drinking/food, or anythink else for that matter, I wouldn't want exposed to hazardous materials.

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Postby Unorthodox » Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:38 am

Vertebral Rend wrote:Not only is Titanium not water soluable, it don't rust, is shock resistant, and has a hardness scale of about 6.0.

And as for noise, well, it'd be contained, and I bet it would make as much noise as a canteen or water jug.


Titanium is completely inert as well...as it doesn't effect magnets or magnetic fields.

As for the hardness, I like to go by the knife industry Rockwell hardness scale...

Titanium while rather light, cannot be tempered above 55Rc..

Infact, it is a rather difficult prospect to temper a titanium blade to anything about 45Rc...making the edge holding properties of titanium very poor.

But damn if you can't keep it in salt water from now untill the PAW and it won't have a speck of rust on it, and it won't set off metal detectors or magnetic landmines!
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Postby Vertebral Rend » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:20 am

BloodLust wrote:That would mean that the bat would be hollow. For it to be sturdy and heavy enough as titanium is really light for a metal, it must be filled with water at all times. Hitting something for prolonged periods while empty may cause it to deform.

The capacity that the bat can hold may be little. For it to hold a sufficient ammount of water, the walls of the bat would be thin, therefore making it less durable. You're better off with bringing emergency packets of water. They take up minimal space. Or even a collapsible water jug as they are used, the volume of the container also decreases, making more space in you're bag in case you come accross some gear you would like to take.

As kyle mentioned in another thread, you might end up with multiple crappy items rather than 2 dependable pieces of equipment (I don't know the exact quote, but it's somewhere along those lines. :) ). Quality often outweighs the heaviness factor of bringing equipment. There's a fine line between quality and functionality, and oftentimes, to get both, there is a price to pay. And if you lose 1, you lose the other.

And once the bat breaks and is covered with zombie brains/blood/skin/flesh/etc, I wouldn't want to put my mouth to that thing. Therefore, I wouldn't want to drink from it. Actually anything to do with drinking/food, or anythink else for that matter, I wouldn't want exposed to hazardous materials.

JMHO. :wink:



I'm still dissuaded by your argument of not having multiple-use weapons. I think the whole point of not losing your stuff is to compile your items when you can. The breaking of bats is gritty stuff indeed, for if you're swinging it that often to jeopardize it breaking, you got more to worry about than your water supply. :shock:

However, I hadn't thought of the grody factor of melee weapon/drinking source. Yeah, that's not the greatest idea to have that as your main water supply. But if you were to weight a bat with something heavy, and you already had a canteen for your water needs, having water in a bat wouldn't be the worst idea.

Melee anyways is always secondary, if not tertiary to running the hell away.
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Postby Cricket » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:10 pm

SMERSH wrote:i thought titanium was water soluble


Titanium OXIDE is used in paints which are water soluable... :)
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Postby BloodLust » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:23 pm

Vertebral Rend wrote:I'm still dissuaded by your argument of not having multiple-use weapons. I think the whole point of not losing your stuff is to compile your items when you can. The breaking of bats is gritty stuff indeed, for if you're swinging it that often to jeopardize it breaking, you got more to worry about than your water supply. :shock:

Melee anyways is always secondary, if not tertiary to running the hell away.


I, personally am not just comfortable with the thought of having two entirely different tools becoming one. It's just not the same as a "hatchet with a hammer on the other side". But if you are comfortable, with it, I see no problem with your decision. It could be used as a back-up of a back-up, but definitely not primary. :)
And regarding the grody factor, it could be similar to using you combat knife/melee weapon to cut the piece of meat or peel the fruit you are about to eat. *shudder* :shock:
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