The Lobo from WWZ

[navarre1095]

Sorry, I was actually referring to the one ml_roak had made.

[Shadow_Man]

I think that we may be trying to reinvent the wheel here. A good old fashioned Entrenching Tool is a formidable weapon with a lot of potential just as it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QwQu0jqdKc I've got one of those old wooden handled E-Tools and they are more than stout enough to do the job of carving into a brain housing group. About the only improvement I could think of would be to make the thickness of the shovel itself just a little bit heavier and perhaps serrated for a little more bight.

[xombiechow]

I think that we may be trying to reinvent the wheel here. A good old fashioned Entrenching Tool is a formidable weapon with a lot of potential just as it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QwQu0jqdKc I've got one of those old wooden handled E-Tools and they are more than stout enough to do the job of carving into a brain housing group. About the only improvement I could think of would be to make the thickness of the shovel itself just a little bit heavier and perhaps serrated for a little more bight.

I think we're all in agreement that the E-tool would make a decent h2h weapon especially the Spetznaz. But. They already had regular E-tools...so the Lobo is definately something different. I think we've also established that it's probably not much of a digger but more of a h2h that functioned as a decent digger.

[Shadow_Man]

I think I've found a good possible example of our mysterious "Lobo"
Take a look at the following pictures and imagine combining these into something that looks like this:


Now take Dave's idea:


Give it a thicker and sharpened edge like this battle axe:


Give it a strong handle:


And an attitude:


And I think you'll end up with a real functional "Lobo"

[saxxon]

as stated in the book (cant give you an exact page, i have the kindle version of it, but its at the end of home front usa - taos, new mexico) "...a fusion of shovel and double-bladed battle-axe". but also stated that it was used to cut off heads with a thrust to the neck, or to penetrate the skull. so i would see it more like a shaolin spade mixed with a battle axe as in it have 'beards' on the side, but instead of ending in spikes, but as flat sided so that boots can kick it into the dirt.more or less like a large Popsicle but with the bar meeting the head like such

[spade here]
(_/| |\_)
[pole here]

with the end of the head resembling a spade in shape, but wider and without such a pointed tip, and the sides looking similar to a battle axe. again just my translating and imagination of it.

[Dogan]

Perhaps a little more rounding of against getting stuck?

This is simply awesome.... i must keep track of this thread...

[Run-to-the-hills]

This would be my ideal LOBO. It needs a slightly larger handle though, better suited for melee swinging. Should suffice as a great weapon, as well at utility tool though. I would like to have the stomp pads on the back, instead of points, like some of the other ideas.

[xombiechow]

This would be my ideal LOBO. It needs a slightly larger handle though, better suited for melee swinging. Should suffice as a great weapon, as well at utility tool though. I would like to have the stomp pads on the back, instead of points, like some of the other ideas.

First post and HomeRun bro! That's a sweet design!

[mikezq8ss]

First post and HomeRun bro! That's a sweet design!

+1

[markik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o

There's the Lobo I pictured.

[Dogan]

Hey if anyone decides to produce a Lobo, in any form, i will buy a couple if their under 250 bucks. Just think it would look so badass, in the bracket with a Pulaski on top of my baja bus or my 42 jeep. Keep this thread going! It is awesome!

[Witch Doctor]

This would be my ideal LOBO. It needs a slightly larger handle though, better suited for melee swinging. Should suffice as a great weapon, as well at utility tool though. I would like to have the stomp pads on the back, instead of points, like some of the other ideas.

BINGO!
That's the one!
Do we have anyone on the forums who can mass produce these?

[Dogan]

This would be my ideal LOBO. It needs a slightly larger handle though, better suited for melee swinging. Should suffice as a great weapon, as well at utility tool though. I would like to have the stomp pads on the back, instead of points, like some of the other ideas.

BINGO!
That's the one!
Do we have anyone on the forums who can mass produce these?

Maybe a special edition, with ZS logo opposite LOBO on the blade.

[sydeburn]

does anybody have the ability to convert the 3D renderings to dxf and upload to http://www.thingiverse.com/ and have the cut with a laser cutter?

[mattltm]

Man. That looks sweet. Nice job.

[Art]

Here's my suggestion, but I don't know how well it would work.

[tarman42]

I like the creativity behind the previous designs but I think they tend to be too axe-like. Remember Lobo is short for Lobotomizer so I see it has being an effective weapon by delivering a skull crushing blow, not a decapitiating slice. In that vein, weight becomes more important than fancy beveled edges. And the foresters dibble tool provides that. Thats a spade sie hunk of metal, nearly two inches thick at the middle with straight taper to the edges.Now the full size version is a little hefty to be swinging aroud but I think if you scaled down by about half you would still have a formidable hunk of brainbashing steel. Plus its pretty basic easy to manufacture single piece.

[xombiechow]

I like the creativity behind the previous designs but I think they tend to be too axe-like. Remember Lobo is short for Lobotomizer so I see it has being an effective weapon by delivering a skull crushing blow, not a decapitiating slice. In that vein, weight becomes more important than fancy beveled edges. And the foresters dibble tool provides that. Thats a spade sie hunk of metal, nearly two inches thick at the middle with straight taper to the edges.Now the full size version is a little hefty to be swinging aroud but I think if you scaled down by about half you would still have a formidable hunk of brainbashing steel. Plus its pretty basic easy to manufacture single piece.

While you bring a good point to the table, I think the reason it tends to look like and axe in most designs is because of the description Brooks gives of it looking like an axe...or something out of LOTR. Now wether we can come up with some that is practical AND fits the description is the challenge. We've had some great designs and I can't believe this thread still gets hits...so I appreciate your input and welcome anyone else's input or challenge to the design.

Thanks!

[mystic_1]

While you bring a good point to the table, I think the reason it tends to look like and axe in most designs is because of the description Brooks gives of it looking like an axe...

Yup, from page 1 of this thread:

From World War Z, by Max Brooks

(top of page 146, last paragraph of interview with Arthur
Sinclair, Jr.) Taken verbatim:


(Sinclair points above my my head to the opposite wall. On it
hangs a heavy steel rod ending in what looks like a fusion of
shovel and double-bladed battle-ax. It's official designation is the
Standard Infantry Entrenching Tool, although, to most, it is
known as either the "Lobotomizer," or simply, the "Lobo.")

mystic_1

[xombiechow]

You got it Mystic.

Also Tarman head on over to the intro section and introduce yourself...Welcome to ZS!

[tarman42]

Allright I confess, I only listened to the abridged version of WWZ last night and sort of missed the description of the weapon, especeially the later details about it being used extensively for digging purposes. Thinking about it further as well, a weapon capable of cleanly chopping off a chunk of forehead would be equally adept at lobotomizing zed. So maybe the battleaxe theme is the way to go as long as any fancy curves that might get hung up inside the skull are avoided.

I think the reason this thread gets so many hits is the way Brooks tapped into our primal love of anti-Zombie weaponary. He provides a vague description of the ultimate melee weapon worthy of adorning the walls of a hardened zombie survivor. The weapon carries the seal of approval from US Marine Corps and a nifty nickname that captures its purpose. He does all this while leaving enough details out to let our imaginations run and conjure up our own ideal design. I tried to get a mental picture of the weapon while listening to WWZ but struggled and settled for a simple look of joy in the user's face as he deftly wielded his lobo, with the confidence that zed's head would be no match.

[EMEUTIER]

Hey all,
I loved reading World War Z in fact I actually listened to the audio-book, definitely worth it.

I too wondered what the Lobo would look like and am glad I found this thread because it inspired me to create a model of what I imagined when I heard the descriptions in the book.
My design is inspired from the quotes found here;

Here are all the excerpts i could find on the lobo and a bit on the condition of the U.S. Army Infantry at the time of it's production. I'll reference the paperback ed. i'm not sure if the page numbers are different in the hard cover.

pg. 146, int. with Arthur Sinclair.
(Sinclair points above my my head to the opposite wall. On it
hangs a heavy steel rod ending in what looks like a fusion of
shovel and double-bladed battle-ax. It's official designation is the
Standard Infantry Entrenching Tool, although, to most, it is
known as either the "Lobotomizer," or simply, the "Lobo." )

pg. 282 int. with Wainio
"There were still living G's some slow ones who were late to the party or who had tried to climb up and over their dead friends and had slid back down into the mound. When we started burying the bodies they came tubling out. That was the only time Senor Lobo saw any action. " (were they using them to dig?)
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And the Fleur-de-lis displayed in the Special Operations patch;



Actually I specially learnt to model in blender just so I could post an accurate image of my idea, this is my first 3D model so its not perfect and not textured but you will get the idea I hope.



The reason I chose this design is because it was described as a fusion of battle axe and shovel and this layout allows for it to be used as a shovel and being able to stomp down on it safely-ish plus effective use as a double bladed battle axe when swung.
Any feedback?

[Dogan]

I like the quiet guy. He's cool.

Dude, that is AWESOME and you must build one!

[Vindictus]

Actually, I think the Fleur de Lise would probably be a fairly accurate depiction for the head... Blunt the tip a little, and broaden the blade a bit, then move the barbs a little... Not really describing this very good, and I have no skill with paint, but if you took your rendition and gave the blade a spade shape rather then a snow shovel one, I think it would be somewhat closer to the design.