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Postby Iggy Hazard » Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:25 pm

So far, the Chinese War Sword is my favorite from Cold Steel. :)

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Postby RealityDeviant » Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:11 am

I prefer the Grosse Messer, personally. Of course, I haven't really been that interested in swords for years. They're expensive and more often than not just end up cluttering up the house.
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Postby ZombieCleaner » Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:50 pm

SMERSH: My art teacher told me about that. Hes into reinacting(sp) and I saw one of the catalogs. He has one of the claymores and somthing else.
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Postby SMERSH » Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:19 pm

it seems like a good place to me, mainly because its geared more twards reinacting
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Postby brock_steele » Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:15 am

ZombieCleaner wrote:http://www.museumreplicas.com they have katanas made from carbon steel. Stainless will not hold an edge and aluminum cant be sharpened so carbon is the only way to fly.....


the coolest things i found at museum replicas were the warbrand and the medieval chopper copied from the maciejowskie bible. i think those would really cause some serious trauma, i mean if they were made to chop through armor, imagine what it would do to a zombie
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Postby Nightside_Eclipse » Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:11 pm

brock_steele wrote:
ZombieCleaner wrote:http://www.museumreplicas.com they have katanas made from carbon steel. Stainless will not hold an edge and aluminum cant be sharpened so carbon is the only way to fly.....


the coolest things i found at museum replicas were the warbrand and the medieval chopper copied from the maciejowskie bible. i think those would really cause some serious trauma, i mean if they were made to chop through armor, imagine what it would do to a zombie


I love the medieval chopper. It's just so ugly and brutal. I want one :D
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Postby MoralityDefender » Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:33 pm

I go to Budk.com to get all my swords.

They sell everything there for really good prices.

I have a similar Samurai Sword to those.
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Postby SMERSH » Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:39 pm

MoralityDefender wrote:I go to Budk.com to get all my swords.

They sell everything there for really good prices.

I have a similar Samurai Sword to those.


i could have sworn i saw everthing in that catalog when i went to gatlinburg on wensday :roll:
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Postby ZombieCleaner » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:34 pm

BudK is crap, all their swords are aluminum, with the exception of one or two, but thats it. And anything stainless wont hold an edge for and practical purpose.
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Postby kyle » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:30 pm

ZombieCleaner wrote:BudK is crap, all their swords are aluminum, with the exception of one or two, but thats it. And anything stainless wont hold an edge for and practical purpose.


I agree that pretty much all the bud K inventory is total crap but they're not aluminum. :?
Did you pull that out of your ass?

Also, not all stainless has a problem holding an edge. It depends on the ingredients of the stainless steel.
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Postby isotek » Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:56 pm

aparently CPM 440V or ATS-34 steel is the best stainless for general purpose knives and swords, however it doesnt hold an edge nearly as well as a high carbon steel does, however all high carbon steel blades have to be stored properly, my high carbon sword has a fingerprint from where i touched the blade and placed it back in its sheathe for about 3 hours before i had a chance to oil it again and now the fingerprint is fairly perminantly there... i could likely take it out with a bit of 2k grit sandpaper. in any case the point of the story is that high carbon steel holds a very good edge but its also very tempremental i personally would rather have a blade that doesnt hold quite as keen of an edge but is more durable in adverse conditions...
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Postby isotek » Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:01 pm

heres a good resource for knifemakers and people looking to research the steel they are currently using.

http://users.ameritech.net/knives/steels.htm

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Postby -Jason- » Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:14 am

I have a few swords and blades.

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Postby Nightside_Eclipse » Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:42 am

http://www.swordforums.com has a lot of info for all you crazy sword people:D
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Postby SMERSH » Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:53 am

-jason-, how does that slim line machete work out, i have been thinking about getting one

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Postby -Jason- » Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:23 am

SMERSH wrote:-jason-, how does that slim line machete work out, i have been thinking about getting one

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That's a "ninja sword." The matchete is to the far left.
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Postby SMERSH » Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:46 am

sorry it looks just like one of these

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... hasJS=true
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Postby Gundown » Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:02 am

It's the same thing. I guess the term "Ninja Sword" doesn't appeal to most outdoorsmen types.
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Postby eexcessive » Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:56 am

Dude what up with the knife with the swastika on it?
Nazi paraphernalia is not cool, whether or not your a national socialist, a neo nazi, or just a stupid fuck racist. You may not be any of those things, so my question still is.....Why the swastika knife?
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Postby Gundown » Sat Jan 08, 2005 5:38 am

Actually, WWII artifacts are cool. Its history man, get over it. I'm pretty sure -Jason- isn't a Nazi. (-Jason- if you're a Nazi I'm kicking your ass for this.)

There is a German Lugar taken from a (dead) Nazi Officer by my grandfather during WWII and with it the Officers arm band baring the Swastika.

It was one of my Grandfathers prized possessions and I would never sell it or destroy it. It's a historical artifact.

The Nazis committed some of the worst atrocities ever recorded in modern times, but to throw away the items they left behind would be to erase the past and blind ourselves of any future uprisings.

These items bare the markings of the last true war between good and evil. They come to us from a time when the American people knew that they were on the right side. Their sons’ blood flowed on foreign soil and there was hardly a protest even though we were just barely out of the shadows of WWI.

That knife isn't a relic of evil, it's a trophy of heroes won away from the last true bad guys, and it's an honor to have these icons passed down to us by a generation of warriors that are now nearly extinct.
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Postby RealityDeviant » Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:36 am

Forgive me if this veers a little off topic, guys. This is something I find important.

eexcessive wrote:Nazi paraphernalia is not cool, whether or not your a national socialist, a neo nazi, or just a stupid fuck racist. You may not be any of those things, so my question still is.....Why the swastika knife?


Okay. I don’t like the argument you’re treading near. Saying that nazi paraphernalia is not cool is much the same as saying that C.S.A. relics are bad because the Confederacy supported slavery, or perhaps that miltaria from the Soviet Union is bad because the Soviet Union was oppressive. If you think hard enough, you can make virtually any historical item seem “wrong” because of the society it came from. I totally agree that Nazi Germany was awful, oppressive, and racist and that much of the paraphernalia from it was owned by people who were the same. However, no historical item, regardless of its origin, is inherently “wrong” or “evil.” The people that owned or used these items may have been, but the objects associated with them are not. Every historical item tells a story, and these stories enhance our understanding of history and human nature.

Another reason these items can be cool is because they often have unparalleled or highly unique design. For example, the craftsmanship of some Nazi knives and swords is absolutely incredible. If you look around, you can find many items that were durable, functional, were superbly engraved, and often were made with precious metals or jewels. For this reason, in addition to their historical value, these items typically command a high price. Of course, to make a sword or knife of equal or greater quality today would also be expensive, because of the care put into the design.

I am a relatively young militaria collector, so I can’t afford to buy much that is sixty years older or more. So, I generally stick with items from the Cold War Era. Much of my stuff is East German, and I would encourage any newer collector to do the same. East German militaria is common, relatively easy to find in good or better condition, and is somewhat cheap. The quality varies, but they’re more valuable every day as they become rarer. My favorite collectibles are uniforms.

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No, that isn’t me in the picture, but something that I’m gradually collecting. If the weather’s right, I occasionally wear the stripped-down tunic (only having the shoulder cord, metal collar tabs, shoulder boards, and cuff title) with a white jackshirt, the gray pants, and black East German officer’s parade boots. This is a STASI “Wach Regiment Dzierzynski” officer’s uniform. The Dzierzynski Regiment was the military arm of the STASI, meaning that many these uniforms were worn by some of the most oppressive men in East Germany. But do I support the terrible things they did when I wear it? No. Why? Because I believe what they did was wrong. I am not like them, therefore, my uniform does not represent that wrongness.

So please, don’t project human characteristics onto nonhuman things. Relics and historical symbols, much like harsh language and racial slurs, adapt to the people that possess or use them. Something only becomes wrong if the individual uses it thus.
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Postby MoralityDefender » Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:03 pm

Jason, I love the swastika blade :) I have one like that too

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Postby -Jason- » Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:13 pm

It's a re-produced Hitler Youth knife. Saing owning it makes me a etc etc etc. Is like calling anyone who owns an SKS or AK-47 a Communist. And no I am not a Nazi.
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Postby -Jason- » Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:15 pm

eexcessive wrote:Dude what up with the knife with the swastika on it?
Nazi paraphernalia is not cool, whether or not your a national socialist, a neo nazi, or just a stupid fuck racist. You may not be any of those things, so my question still is.....Why the swastika knife?



By the way the Nazis weren't racist as Jews aren't really a race but a religion.


Now lets get back on topic.
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