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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by Dogan » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:25 pm

KJ4VOV wrote:
Dogan wrote: Dude, what are those top two?

My favorite machete, thrown off a cliff by an impulsive person I know in a fit of rage (no, not me), looked a lot like the second to top one in that pic, with a few less inches. It fit my hand well, held an edge well, and sustained shock well. At the moment, however, all I have are cheap, ill fitting models and I really want to find a replacement for that one.

The one you're referring to looks like an 18" Ontario, and the one you're talking about, if it looked like that but shorter, was probably the 12" Ontario. (http://www.machetespecialists.com/on12trcucaan.html)
Essentially, that with a ground down tip almost like a drop-point, although it was in such poor condition by the time I got to it that I couldn't tell if it was from factory like that or not.
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Re: The Machete Thread

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KJ4VOV wrote:
Dogan wrote: Dude, what are those top two?

My favorite machete, thrown off a cliff by an impulsive person I know in a fit of rage (no, not me), looked a lot like the second to top one in that pic, with a few less inches. It fit my hand well, held an edge well, and sustained shock well. At the moment, however, all I have are cheap, ill fitting models and I really want to find a replacement for that one.

The one you're referring to looks like an 18" Ontario, and the one you're talking about, if it looked like that but shorter, was probably the 12" Ontario. (http://www.machetespecialists.com/on12trcucaan.html)
Essentially, that with a ground down tip almost like a drop-point, although it was in such poor condition by the time I got to it that I couldn't tell if it was from factory like that or not.
Try this chart of blade styles and see if you see it: http://www.machetespecialists.com/mabyst.html
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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by azrael99 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:31 pm

another of my favorite

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the "Bolowie"

a bowie type knife made with a Martindale bolo machete
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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by Dogan » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:34 pm

KJ4VOV wrote:
Dogan wrote:
KJ4VOV wrote:
Dogan wrote: Dude, what are those top two?

My favorite machete, thrown off a cliff by an impulsive person I know in a fit of rage (no, not me), looked a lot like the second to top one in that pic, with a few less inches. It fit my hand well, held an edge well, and sustained shock well. At the moment, however, all I have are cheap, ill fitting models and I really want to find a replacement for that one.

The one you're referring to looks like an 18" Ontario, and the one you're talking about, if it looked like that but shorter, was probably the 12" Ontario. (http://www.machetespecialists.com/on12trcucaan.html)
Essentially, that with a ground down tip almost like a drop-point, although it was in such poor condition by the time I got to it that I couldn't tell if it was from factory like that or not.
Try this chart of blade styles and see if you see it: http://www.machetespecialists.com/mabyst.html
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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by azrael99 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:48 pm

wanna see another gorgeous model you could like ?

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you can still find SOME available, but they are rare.
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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by Dogan » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:57 pm

Oh I REALLY like that, but I'm concerned that IRL it would look a little too swordlike. The thing I liked about mine was that, while it handled well and could've been easily sharpened on top and bottom to make it more stabby, it still looked simple and utilitarian.

But I do really like that. What is it? ETA: NVM, I checked the URL. Headed to Cold Steel's site now.

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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by azrael99 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:16 am

look at the "sharpest store" on ebay, Belote still have a few of them.
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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by KentsOkay » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:19 am

Tramontina machetes FTW. Better steel in my opinion than a Cold Steel. I have an old 18" Tramontina, and a new 24". I re handled the 24" with a hunk of oak to balance it better, and allow for two hands. It will clear light stuff all the way into tomahawk territory (1-2 inch). I can use it on 3" but my Estwing Hatchet does that better, so the two get along very well. For the money (super cheap), Tramontinas are impossible to beat.
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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by maine1 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:32 am

Tramontinas and imacasas are what i have grown to like.
One of my friends has an imacassa he brought home from belise, and it just feels great in hand, its about 30" or so.
Usually the steel in SA machetes is thinner than american machetes. But, in use they work well. Look at the trees they chop with them, some of quite hard wood.


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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by Red Tamarillo » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:14 am

I've got a shitload and did some reviews a while ago. I probably could do another one:

Cold Steel Two handed review (all of them):

http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 33&t=78127" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some one handed Condor, Ontario and Cold Steel:

http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 33&t=77699" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Currently I have:

Cold Steel 12" Sax, 12" Barong, 12" Spearpoint (all not as good choppers as the 12" Ontario, but more SD/mean looking).
Cold Steel 18" Bowie, 18" Barong (Bowie very mean looking, and a good chopper, though not as maneuvrable as a 12").
Overall I love the handles on these old Cold Steel one handed models, not too thick and a decent length.

Cold Steel two handed plain, katana, kukri, panga (all vibrate- no weight in the handle and not good, even though I've read so many good reports).
Two handed 21" Latin (my pick of that bunch).

Onatrio 12" CT2 with the sawback (don't get the sawback, get the plain CT1). My favourite 12" chopper blade, if only it had a Cold Steel handle, I find it's handle just a smidge too fat.
Ontario 12" D guard OKC (I can't get this one to cut as well as the CT2, even though in one of my review threads someone said it has the same steel).

Condor Hog Sticker KGG, Jungle Sabre KGG (cut well enough, if only they were plain black and not mall ninja pattern, and some of the bladesmith's here have slagged off stainless steel beyond a certain length).
Condor 18" with orange handle (meant to be the same blade as on the Esee lite machete- loved the shape of the micarta handle on the Esee, but I got a bad Esee which made a clicking noise- it only has two pins (needs three) which means if one is loose the handle clicks. I hope Esee add another pin when they re release it).
Also had an 18" Condor with micarta handles, a thick indestructible (and heavy) beast, but sold it.

Marbles 10" bowie machete, had to wood file and sand paper the wooden handle to make it more comfortable. Light and nimble.

Svord 12" Kiwi machete, light and nimble too, but a tiny blade, better for SD than cutting.

Tramontina 14" bolo, a nice length (sometimes I think 12" is too short for me), but crappy (wooden) handle- not enough length in it. For tiny hands. No lanyard hole.
Tramontina 10" with plastic small handle, no lanyard hole. After buying it I thought I might as well use a 12" better chopper, with a better handle.

Martindale 10" paratrooper. Fits in a 12" Ontario sheath. I haven't chopped much with it yet, but like it. I'm surprised there's not more mention of it on the net.

I may have some others that have slipped my mind.

So my recommendations for SD inside, or lightweight SD outside (afterall you do have to carry it all day)- one of the 12" Cold Steel (and as already mentioned they're re releasing the 12" Bowie this year).
For SD outside- the 21" two handed Latin; or 18" Bowie (if you work out). The new two handed all terrain chopper may be good as well. (A 3 pinned Esee lite machete would be good too- as realistically I think you're going to be slashing rather than thrusting).
For lightweight bug out- the 10" marbles, 12" Svord, or 10" Martindale.
For everyday chopping- the 12" Ontario CT1. (If only it was 14" and had a Cold Steel old school handle).

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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by Miss Nothing » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:05 pm

crypto wrote:What are your complaints with the gator? Granted, all I use mine for is slashing through brambles and brush, but it seemed fine to me.

The gerber gator is overall a piece of crap. It's very weak, and the handle is very uncomfortable. Maybe it's just the fact that my hands are small girly hands, but maybe not...either way, when I was testing it I couldn't get an actual grip on the handle and it seemed like the whole thing was about to break into pieces any second. It even started jiggling at the handle, when I was testing it I stopped because I thought it was going to break. So basically, it's a weak weapon and wouldn't last long.
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Post by Miss Nothing » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:07 pm

Rebel Pariah wrote:my kabar cutlass is a CHAMP :crazy:
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so.. I just googled "kabar cutlass" looking for a good picture... and I find my picture :mrgreen:

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Post by Miss Nothing » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:08 pm

azrael99 wrote:my collection ?

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and still growing strong (i got a sugar cane machete today)

yet the one who saw the most services , is the ontario machete. got it years ago, and still use it.
:shock: now that's what I'm talking about!! :lol:
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Post by LittleQuick » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:27 pm

When I was at Mall of America some guy tried selling me a Gerber Machete. I was there with a friend who buys expensive tight clothes (I don't know either). It was the strangest experience of my life:
Here I am minding my own business staring at their proud display of Gerber knives and tools. Then this guy comes up and says, "You wanna hold it?" I don't know about you know, but if anyone comes up behind me and asks me to hold it, my hand drops to the knife.
Anywho, I don't really live anywhere where a machete would be necessary in the first place. I mean somewhat, but I can walk through most things up here. Can anyone suggest a sort of smallish machete? (When I ask that in my head it just sounds STUPID.)
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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by azrael99 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:54 pm

one of my BEST machete is the 12 inch tramontina camp knife.
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i LOOOOOOVE is, awesome, inexpensive and easy to mod

i ad it a sharp tip and a 6 inch false edge.
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Post by Blacksheep » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:26 pm

the kabar cutlass, has an 11'' blade, yet still delivers powerful blows
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Post by KentsOkay » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:18 am

My 24" Tramontina and AR-15

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That oak was seasoning for close to 4 years before I made it into a grip :D
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Post by maine1 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:35 am

azrael99 wrote:one of my BEST machete is the 12 inch tramontina camp knife.
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i LOOOOOOVE is, awesome, inexpensive and easy to mod

i ad it a sharp tip and a 6 inch false edge.


VERY much agree- I have two of these as trainers, and a user ot two. i like my bowies best, but these things are fun to use, and for sumbrada.

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Post by Red Tamarillo » Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:42 am

If those tramontina's have the same (crappy) size handle as the 14" bolo and 10" plastic that I have I would recommend the 10" marbles bowie, 10' martindale paratrooper, 12" svord, or even the 12" old school Cold Steel's instead (waiting for the 12" bowie if you can't find any spearpoint, sax or barong on ebay).
The 14" bolo handle is very crappy compared to these others. And no lanyard hole either.

Edit: went out to the shed to refresh, I may have been slightly harsh about the tramontina's, the plastic handled 10" is okay, the wooden bolo is adequate.
They are shipped without sheaths.

A lot of the distinctions between what makes a good machete or not is the size and shape of the handle, with some of the manufacturers pumping out crappy ones (and the sheaths).

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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by Spaniard » Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:07 pm

I have been enjoying the new model Aranyik "saber" machete:

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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by dustycanuck » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:22 pm

I had never really used a machete, but after doing a bit or reading, I picked up a Cold Steel Kukri Machete (CS97KMS). Well, the summer didn't go the way I was hoping, so I still haven't done much with it other than to chop through a few nasty old skids, and a couple of pieces of 4x4 dunnage after trying my first convex edge. I have to say, it was fun. Got a couple of hot spots and a little blister on my pale doughy white hands, but it was good.

I figured on maybe picking up an Ontario 1-18 and checking out what a USGI machete is like, and after reading this thread, I guess I'm going to have to check out Tramontina as well.

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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by Blacksheep » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:27 pm

thanks to this thread alone, I want a new machete

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the Kabar grass machete
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Re: The Machete Thread

Post by azrael99 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:54 pm

this is my list of "must get" of this year

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yea LOTS of cold steel

but i also want one of those
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Post by Halfapint » Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:27 pm

I've got the Gerber Gator short version and one I picked up from surplus. I love the short version of the Gerber but if it were any bigger I would hate it. I really don't know why try bothered "sharpening" it at the factory just send that thing out without an edge and let the end user sharpen it.

Took mine to the grinding wheel (very carefully) to get the angle the way I like it, then filed the burrs down and used my diamond home to put a nice edge on. Single hack went though a 1 1/4 inch branch no problem. The saw I was very unsure about in my experience they are more for looks, but after a little test I actually was able to saw though a 6in completely seasoned stump with little problem. The saw teeth are angled out so the saw wont get stuck. I have this attached to any bag that that I'm going out into the woods with.

The military surplus is probably the Ontario that seems like the same style but I'm not a fan because the grip sucks. And after a little use hands get sore.
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