squinty wrote:Like I said before, it's strange to me that for many years a gun was ok to carry around but a concealed weapon was considered a tool of criminals, but once states began allowing limited concealed carry, and the practice gained acceptance, suddenly the stigma shifted to open carry.
I still need to get my concealed carry license but I've been trying to get a day off that corresponds with a decent instructor instead of having a local bubba teach me. I am however uncomfortable with the idea of concealing a weapon and plan to open carry in my home area where it's not a big deal.
I'm a law abiding citizen. Why should I have to conceal my weapon like a criminal with something to hide?
P.S. I understand why most people conceal and I am in no way saying you are lesser people for it or in anyway like a criminal. This is just a personal feeling
and probably antiquated in our modern world.
Well, I think discreet carry is preferable to open carry, and my few experiments in open carry have drawn hilariously awkward attention (I used to live in a university town) and won't be repeated. But I think it it's a personal choice, and find it ludicrous that laws would allow one but not the other. I'm not offended that your personal choice is different from mine.
As for your "antiquated ideas" - yeah that's exactly what I was talking about. Not many years ago, there was no such thing as concealed carry - almost every state had a law against it (Vermont and Alaska being the lone holdouts - very recently Arizona) but few places had any particular law against carrying
a weapon, just against concealing it, the idea being that people around you had a right to know you were armed and act accordingly.
When states began allowing special exemptions - permits - for some citizens to conceal weapons, and the public got used to it, suddenly the attitude shifted. Instead of asking "What's he up to that he has to hide his gun-is he a crook?" it became "ZOMG why's he walking around with his gun uncovered! Is he trying to threaten or intimidate me?" What the two questions have in common is hoplophobia, the prejudicial idea that merely having
a weapon, or carrying it a certain way, = violent intent.
Guns aren't good or evil whether you show'em or hide'em. Neither are knives.
I find it amusing too that one kind of weapon is considered somehow more dangerous than another. In my state an assisted-opening folder is a perfectly legal pocketknife, but a switchblade or butterfly knife is verboten because of course
only the thugs from west side story and other "bad people" would ever carry them...Florida CCW licenses at least allow for the concealed carry of other weapons, whereas in my state, it's ok to carry a gun
concealed if you have the permit, but woe to you if you're caught with an asp baton or sheath knife that isn't
openly carried. The permit here is "guns only." Why should a NC permit make you trustworthy with a .357 but not a camp knife? Laws are weird.
Going back to the OP, I find it typical - and hilarious - that the guard had to exaggerate the open carrying of a weapon into "waving it around" in order to justify his opposition. I also like the idea that the weapon was somehow less dangerous hidden in a pocket than visible on a belt - I guess people were less likely to freak out over it, but again, the guard was the only person who did
have any reaction. I think it was appropriate for the OP to comply politely with the guard's request. In his place I'd have made sure the manager knew I'd be taking my business elsewhere, and why.
I love the way opponents of ccw - or weapons in general - have to conflate carrying with other, less responsible activities. Words like "prancing around" or "strutting" or "flaunting" are used to describe open carriers, in an attempt to deride them or impute motives less respectable than a desire for personal protection.