VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

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VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by Murph » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:54 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen,
I present to you the VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

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With lows in the 30's we were all a little bit nipply. We met up Friday Nov. 12th, and packed up and left on Sunday Nov. 14th. It was a great weekend of skills building and story telling.
Does your BOB at least have: water, basic tools, fire, food, first-aid kit, and shelter?
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by Biggin » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:07 pm

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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by the_alias » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:08 pm

Looking forward to more detailed break down of what worked/what didn't et cetera.
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by Resolute » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:45 pm

Great meeting you guys at the range on Saturday! I had lots of fun, and can't wait to go back - hopefully next time for a full weekend. My gf said she didn't know what to expect on meeting you guys, but she said you were all a class act! :)

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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by Murph » Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:05 pm

the_alias wrote:Looking forward to more detailed break down of what worked/what didn't et cetera.
Well, I did a review of a Heater Meal that Kaidensfire provided here:
http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopi ... 0#p1579730" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I noticed a crack in my Space Saver Cup, but I have no idea how it got there:
http://www.amazon.com/Olicamp-Space-Sav ... B001ODH4O2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So it looks like I'm going to replace it with another one, or a different brand. Depends on how quick I can get my hands on something.

I noticed for me, the two most useful items were a knife and a lighter. Consequently, they were the two items that I kept putting back into my pack, instead of keeping them in my pocket.

I forgot/remembered a trick from the winter camp out where I tossed hand warmers into the bottom of my sleeping bag to keep my feet warm. Then in the morning if they're still hot, you can put them into your boots to warm them up right before you put your feet in.

I'm sure everyone will have their own insights as people recover from the weekend.
Does your BOB at least have: water, basic tools, fire, food, first-aid kit, and shelter?
"When planning, prepare for the most likely, and then the most catastrophic."
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by stimpy321972 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:06 pm

Resolute wrote:Great meeting you guys at the range on Saturday! I had lots of fun, and can't wait to go back - hopefully next time for a full weekend. My gf said she didn't know what to expect on meeting you guys, but she said you were all a class act! :)

Glad you guys could come out and spend some time with us, we will be doing it again soon and will make sure you get the info and dates next time.
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Couldn't agree more. It is a precision weapon. It will jam at the precise moment you need it the most. :)
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by Murph » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:37 am

And because I said I would...

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Does your BOB at least have: water, basic tools, fire, food, first-aid kit, and shelter?
"When planning, prepare for the most likely, and then the most catastrophic."
raptor wrote: Being a gun collector does not make you a prepper.
the_alias wrote: Murph has all the diplomacy of a North Korean warhead, but -he has- a valid point

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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by mattdcknsn » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:43 am

Just to let everybody know about the temps we had over the weekend.

Saturday morning at 7am was the coldest for that night at 25 degrees. It was usually hovering around 30 that night.

The coldest is got the second night was 29 degrees, it was warmer the second night. Average temps were in the lower thirties, around 34.

I had a great time, learned a lot about tarp shelters. I'll put more up in a little bit.
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Post by Maeklos » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:51 am

Yeah, absolutely fabulous time, all around. I'll post up my pics later and do a review for my TerraCorp Mark 17 Tactical Sex Rock.
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by mattdcknsn » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:11 am

Murph wrote:And because I said I would...

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Looks like we have our new flag. :)
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Post by Maeklos » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:27 am

You need to register the name "Murphshroom Stamp".
Politics is like having two handfuls of shit - one that smells bad and one that looks bad - and having to decide which one to put in your mouth.

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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by Murph » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:28 am

A few people were asking about different peices of gear I have, so here is some of them. If I missed anything, just let me know.

This is similar to the headlamp I have, but mine is 2x AAA
http://www.browning.com/products/catalo ... lashlights" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'll see if I can find a model number on it.

StripLULA:
http://www.butler-creek.com/products/st ... oader.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I forgot to show people, but you can use it to unload mags too.

My Cooking Utensils by Guyot Designs:
http://www.guyotdesigns.com/product.php?id_product=31" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's the technique I used for my tarp shelter (Three Posts):
http://www.itstactical.com/2010/05/06/k ... er-part-1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.itstactical.com/2010/05/11/k ... er-part-2/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.itstactical.com/2010/05/19/k ... er-part-3/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Does your BOB at least have: water, basic tools, fire, food, first-aid kit, and shelter?
"When planning, prepare for the most likely, and then the most catastrophic."
raptor wrote: Being a gun collector does not make you a prepper.
the_alias wrote: Murph has all the diplomacy of a North Korean warhead, but -he has- a valid point

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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by Murph » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:49 am

Maeklos wrote:You need to register the name "Murphshroom Stamp".
I know, right? Although that image/stamp would probably be NSFW.
Does your BOB at least have: water, basic tools, fire, food, first-aid kit, and shelter?
"When planning, prepare for the most likely, and then the most catastrophic."
raptor wrote: Being a gun collector does not make you a prepper.
the_alias wrote: Murph has all the diplomacy of a North Korean warhead, but -he has- a valid point

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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by NYKh » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:53 am

Ok I can see what you were doing with the loop. I'm going to give it a try and compare it to the twist/loop method of the truckers hitch i was using.
That quick pull half hitch looks cool, I'm going to practice that one.
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by Murph » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:58 am

whatgun: Can you post up some pictures or details about that solar charger you were using for your Blackberry? I'm trying to find it online, or something similar. It'd be great if I could figure out a way to charge AA and AAA too.
Does your BOB at least have: water, basic tools, fire, food, first-aid kit, and shelter?
"When planning, prepare for the most likely, and then the most catastrophic."
raptor wrote: Being a gun collector does not make you a prepper.
the_alias wrote: Murph has all the diplomacy of a North Korean warhead, but -he has- a valid point

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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by stimpy321972 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:56 pm

Hey I found the zombie cove cat's cousin on liveleaks



http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ea6_1289755150
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BigBossMan wrote: My AR is a precision weapon.
Couldn't agree more. It is a precision weapon. It will jam at the precise moment you need it the most. :)
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Post by Maeklos » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:13 pm

I went ahead and got a thread set up for our next proposed gathering: http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopi ... 38&t=72359" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Early is good, right?

Also, will get the photos I took of everyone's camp site (may have missed stumpy's since he set up late) as well as our successful primitive survival campfire (heh) and down at the range.
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Post by Redemption » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:40 pm

mattdcknsn wrote:Just to let everybody know about the temps we had over the weekend.

Saturday morning at 7am was the coldest for that night at 25 degrees. It was usually hovering around 30 that night.

The coldest is got the second night was 29 degrees, it was warmer the second night. Average temps were in the lower thirties, around 34.

I had a great time, learned a lot about tarp shelters. I'll put more up in a little bit.

As for the low temps on Friday night and Saturday morning,
I froze my tukkus off! My U.S.G.I. Modular sleep system was probably
not to blame. I was wearing (cheap) polypro base layers and a watchcap.
I had a widemouth 32oz Nalgene half full with pisswarm water.

I sucked it up and tried the bivy again Saturday night,with much better results.
Thanks to Stimpy for the Nalgene trick that I executed properly this time.
It turns out if you fill the 32oz Nalgene with close to boiling water, it will last through the night.
Not only did it last, but it was steaming still, well after day break.
I credit this, as well as a better base layer to a sound sleep and warm second night.

Also I would like to hear more about Maeklos and his Terra review!
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by stimpy321972 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:46 pm

Maeklos wrote:I went ahead and got a thread set up for our next proposed gathering: http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopi ... 38&t=72359" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Early is good, right?

Not speaking for everyone else but I think it is a tad early. I know I have the attention span of a cinderblock in a snowstorm.


Also, someone asked about the condor soft-shell jacket and the review on it.



here is the thread: http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 14&t=69575


here is the review by nutfancy: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=nut ... f7JgVasyhY
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by mattdcknsn » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:58 pm

So I think we found Murph's present for next trip:

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With that you might win the prostate cancer fund raiser. :)

Seriously though. I learned a lot on this trip.

Camping setup:

Snugpack sleeper lite bag is good down to what it recommends (30 comfortable, 17 extreme).

http://www.amazon.com/Sleeper-Lite-Squa ... B0019MIDQG
(Not where I got it from, usually cheaper elsewhere).

For my sleeping setup I used a USGI foam pad, then a cheap inflatable sleeping mat. That did a good job insulating me from the ground. The boiling water in a nalgene works great. The first night my feet were cold, the next night I tried this and worked great.

I used a Sports Authority hiker tent. Worked fine. The one below is a newer model, Mine has a separate rain fly. I wasn't too cold but I do think that one with less ventilation would have been more comfortable for the colder weather. But for $20 it cant be beat.

http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/ ... age=family
(newer model here)

Food
The MRE chocolate brownie with chocolate chips is actually pretty good. In all I didn't have a big problem with the MREs that were tried out. They are not my preferred choice but not bad.

I have to use the alternative to the mountain house meals. Way too much sodium in there.

The single serve coffee bags work great. Made by Folgers, they are quick and easy.

All I can think of at the moment. I'll try and add more later.
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by stimpy321972 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:36 pm

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The Va enclave, a great place

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The fellas: Murph, Kaidensfire, Whatgun, Maeklos, NYKH, Maxrite

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Our strategic ring of protection from Woodland Zombies, though it seems not to be able to stop stray forest cats from breaching the perimeter !

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Maxrite(partially) Murph teaching Kaidensfire the complex intricacies of the AR-15, Mattdickson, looking on in AAAWWW of it all.


A very good weekend, but way to short time-wise, a great location, lots and lots of trigger time, just a short jaunt away.
It was great seeing old friends and having the opportunity to meet some new ones.
We didn't get all we wanted to accomplished but we did come up with a lot of good ideas for future events.
Can't wait to see you guys again, SOON.
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Couldn't agree more. It is a precision weapon. It will jam at the precise moment you need it the most. :)
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by Luminary703 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:06 pm

I really wish I am able to go to these. I don't have any camping gear due to limited funds. One of these days I hope to be able to meet up with some of you dudes. Looks like a lot of fun.
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by Murph » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:18 pm

Looks like we finished the lowers and uppers, and was about to move onto the BCGs after a shot of Captain's. :D
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Re: VA Bugout (Fall 2010) Survivors!

Post by stimpy321972 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:26 pm

Luminary703 wrote:I really wish I am able to go to these. I don't have any camping gear due to limited funds. One of these days I hope to be able to meet up with some of you dudes. Looks like a lot of fun.


Not having camping gear is not an issue, there are many of us that have more than one of a lot of things and would willing to loan you the basics of what you need. All you have to do is ask and we should be able to work out the logistics!!!!
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BigBossMan wrote: My AR is a precision weapon.
Couldn't agree more. It is a precision weapon. It will jam at the precise moment you need it the most. :)
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