Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby JIM » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:09 pm

Lynxian wrote:
DarkScythe wrote:Drop the Maglite man, drop the maglite.

Get yourself a Fenix Flashlight preferably a L2D Premium Q5.


Suggestions are cool, but do give argumentation; why's the Fenix better than the Maglite?



Of course it's a personal preference, but overal, fenix compaired to a similair-sized Maglite:

-Higher light output
- Longer battery life
- LED instead of incandescent (so no unexpected bulb-failures)
- More shock-resistant (because of superior quality and LED)

I personally EDC a Fenix L1D-CE:

review: http://www.flashlightreviews.com/review ... -l2dce.htm

And when I need more light the Fenix T1:

Post of T1 on EDC-forums: http://edcforums.com/index.php?topic=12841.msg156687


Fenix dutch manufacturer's website: http://www.fenix-nederland.nl/nl/zaklampen.htm

Where I bought them: http://www.knivesandtools.com/nl/ct/fen ... lampen.htm
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby MCboy » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:01 pm

While not exactly about EDC,

My church cleared and leveled some land for a base ball field. They cut up a tree in huge rounds and announced free U-cut U-haul firewood that Sunday. People asked me why I needed firewood in suburbia, especially a ~1/2 cord on my dinky apartment porch.

Not two weeks later, the power went out. While it's summer now, the last time the power went out, it was winter and more than a little chilly. I was snug as a bug in a rug. Also, my neighbors had just stocked their freezer. We struck a bargain that they'd feed me for the next couple days and I'd feed them afterwards. The power came back on the 3rd day so I wound up not having to dip into my supplies beyond normal rotation, but that was a nice couple days. Steaks, ribs, seafood.

They also question the "need" for firearms in suburbia, but then occasionally (ok, ok rarely), people will wonder "what can we do for fun this weekend", and a trip to the range is called for. I've never gone hunting (though I'd love to go, if even simply to observe), but people do get a kick (pun intended) out of some of my toys.

They question my stock of camping supplies though I rarely get to go. I am completely ready though to go camping at the drop of a hat with my nephews and I didn't need to buy anything when the youth group at church went camping. They asked, "What did you buy just before this trip?" I thought for a sec, and said, "Lamp oil."

We're cutting jokes about the upside of EDC, but that also marks you as being the go to guy. The down side is that I've heard more than a few comments that should the zombies arise, they're simply gonna show up at my place. I immediately dispelled that idea by saying that they're welcome to what ever's left, but that won't be much since most my gear fits on a bike trailer. If they're mobile enough to reach my place and things are bad enough for them to need me, odds are I'm already headed out to go to my parents who live more in the country. I have a feeling my birthday party this year is going to be a zombie preparedness meeting + a couple training films. Friends are important and I know I can trust them to be nice when the SHTF, but there's no way I can support 20+ people in my afore mentioned dinky apartment.

The few exceptions to that are a couple who live near and are preparing with me. One of which has already called my shotgun. I'm not sure that's fair until you've actually spotted a zombie, though.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby Brash » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:12 pm

My bro in law, after seeing how useful it was that I carried a knife at work, started carrying one too.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby Apollo-11 » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:05 pm

Apollo-11 wrote:Well, not *everyone*. Mini-mag with Nite-ize LED conversion, plus a Princeton Tec Attitude, and an Innova X5. I have wayyyy too many flashlights.


There's a reason I chose these three. One is a AA. One is a AAA. One is a CR123. If I have an extended power outage, I have plenty of light and plenty of options for getting more batteries.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby Lucretius » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:54 am

Apollo 11:

Good plan :D .

I actually bought a small led flash specifically 'cause it uses the small button batteries that go in the shitty plastic toys that my kids get from their friends as birthday gifts. When TSHTF I'm raiding their room for spares.... :twisted: That's just multiple redundancy! Besides, who needs those batteries for anything else (unless you need to do massive calculations on you pocket calculator...)?
In the PAW, the kids'll have to tough it out without toys that makes irritating noises, right?
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby andygates » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:28 pm

I'm getting a reputation. Some guy at work sent some guy at work in to see me with a huge weeping blister from badly-fitting new shoes. "They said you'd probably have something..."

One compeed later, job done. That little boo-boo miniFAK is really working out well.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby Lucretius » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:29 pm

andygates wrote:I'm getting a reputation.


Oooooh.... watch out for that rep! When the zeds come a-moanin' you don't want every induhvidual you've ever worked with come crying for help. You'll run out of compads, time, and grey matter while elbowing your way out of the herd! :D
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby andygates » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:58 pm

Good point! :o Time to get sneaky ninja... Image
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby ReInventor » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:20 pm

I'm pretty particular about who I'll lend my supplies to, simply because I wouldn't be able to afford to fill the demand should I gain that reputation. I'll get bandaids and the like for my buddies, but anyone else, unless of course they really need something, and I'm fresh out. Same with tools. I've got a shitty razor knife I'll lend to someone I don't know well, but the flashlight and the gerber are for me and mine.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby MonsterZero » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:58 am

I was at Shop-Rite (where I am now employed) to make an 8x10 of one of my photos for a sick friend (also my biggest fan) and a woman and her daughter were standing there making-literally-more than 90 4x5s. It was ridculous. Naturally, the machine ran out of paper (it might have been ink, I don't remember) and the desk lady had to replace it. So she brought over this shrink-wrapped bundle and some scissors, trying to open it without jabbing it. So, being the handy-dandy-SOB that I am, I removed my knife from my pocket, still closed, and offered it to her. She and the two customers literally jumped back, and the mother said 'Whoa, look out, he's taking out the pocket knife.' I told her that I never leave home without it, and it got the job done beautifully. No muss, no fuss, we all went about our business.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby DarkScythe » Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:24 am

Lynxian wrote:
DarkScythe wrote:Do some research and you'll see.

Im sure everybody on here carries either a Surefire or Fenix brand of Led flashlight.


I'm not going to conduct research just because random person #348 on the intarwebz says product Y is better than product X and then promptly leaves without any kind of argumentation. You make a point, you provide the argumentation. I'm not going to search for your argumentation. If we would all do that then a forum would quickly lose its function.
You're going to end up with either a Fenix model light, a surefire model light, Inova, Olight or something.

At least one watch and see.

Plain and simple.

Natural progression.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby Lynxian » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:31 am

DarkScythe wrote:
Lynxian wrote:
DarkScythe wrote:Do some research and you'll see.

Im sure everybody on here carries either a Surefire or Fenix brand of Led flashlight.


I'm not going to conduct research just because random person #348 on the intarwebz says product Y is better than product X and then promptly leaves without any kind of argumentation. You make a point, you provide the argumentation. I'm not going to search for your argumentation. If we would all do that then a forum would quickly lose its function.
You're going to end up with either a Fenix model light, a surefire model light, Inova, Olight or something.

At least one watch and see.

Plain and simple.

Natural progression.


While using short sentences, generally speaking, indeed makes your writing more easy to read, it does not apply in all cases. In your case it appears you're just too lazy to supply argumentation. Because supplying argumentation doesn't mean I need to see 3 scientific papers that support your opinion, it means you simply say why something's better. In this case you could've said (based on JIM's research towards your argumentation); 'The Fenix gives off more light, does longer with its battery and uses a shock resistant LED light. This really makes the Maglite look like an underpowered, blunt glowstick!' Even with this kind of (minimal) argumentation I would've known enough as to why you reckon the Fenix is superiour. Of course, you fail to do so all together, which results in me explaining the basics of conducting a forum-debate because, apparently, you're not aware of how to do so. So please, next time; supply argumentation. Along the same lines; also attempt some proper sentence construction and cohesion. Because you might've made some point somewhere in the three lines of text you wrote, but when they don't make sense to anyone but you, it's not really coming across.

But, because I'm a nice fellow, I'm going to supply you with a counter-argument. I'll be countering the arguments JIM was sportive enough to find, to support your opinion; Like ZombieGranny said, why on Earth would I want to purchase a small $60 flashlight when, for $13, I bought a pretty bright Romisen flashlight that fits a AAA battery and lasts about an hour of continious burning? Does the Fenix do twenty hours of full-light with a battery? (Thus resulting in me saving about 19 batteries per twenty hours of burning?) And even if it does oh-so-much longer with a battery, how often do you actually use your flashlight to justify that price? Because if you only use it once a month then it's all very nice and dandy that it lasts about 20 hours, but the battery's bound to run out of power before you get to use the batterylife to its full potential in a Fenix.

So summarizing; what makes the Fenix worth it's high price to you? How often do you use your flashlight, how bright is it and how much longer does that Fenix last than my Romisen? In my case I use my Romisen about once a month. That's not often enough for me to warrant some expensive über-flashlight.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby DarkScythe » Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:00 am

Lynxian wrote:
DarkScythe wrote:
Lynxian wrote:
DarkScythe wrote:Do some research and you'll see.

Im sure everybody on here carries either a Surefire or Fenix brand of Led flashlight.


I'm not going to conduct research just because random person #348 on the intarwebz says product Y is better than product X and then promptly leaves without any kind of argumentation. You make a point, you provide the argumentation. I'm not going to search for your argumentation. If we would all do that then a forum would quickly lose its function.
You're going to end up with either a Fenix model light, a surefire model light, Inova, Olight or something.

At least one watch and see.

Plain and simple.

Natural progression.


While using short sentences, generally speaking, indeed makes your writing more easy to read, it does not apply in all cases. In your case it appears you're just too lazy to supply argumentation. Because supplying argumentation doesn't mean I need to see 3 scientific papers that support your opinion, it means you simply say why something's better. In this case you could've said (based on JIM's research towards your argumentation); 'The Fenix gives off more light, does longer with its battery and uses a shock resistant LED light. This really makes the Maglite look like an underpowered, blunt glowstick!' Even with this kind of (minimal) argumentation I would've known enough as to why you reckon the Fenix is superiour. Of course, you fail to do so all together, which results in me explaining the basics of conducting a forum-debate because, apparently, you're not aware of how to do so. So please, next time; supply argumentation. Along the same lines; also attempt some proper sentence construction and cohesion. Because you might've made some point somewhere in the three lines of text you wrote, but when they don't make sense to anyone but you, it's not really coming across.

But, because I'm a nice fellow, I'm going to supply you with a counter-argument. I'll be countering the arguments JIM was sportive enough to find, to support your opinion; Like ZombieGranny said, why on Earth would I want to purchase a small $60 flashlight when, for $13, I bought a pretty bright Romisen flashlight that fits a AAA battery and lasts about an hour of continious burning? Does the Fenix do twenty hours of full-light with a battery? (Thus resulting in me saving about 19 batteries per twenty hours of burning?) And even if it does oh-so-much longer with a battery, how often do you actually use your flashlight to justify that price? Because if you only use it once a month then it's all very nice and dandy that it lasts about 20 hours, but the battery's bound to run out of power before you get to use the batterylife to its full potential in a Fenix.

So summarizing; what makes the Fenix worth it's high price to you? How often do you use your flashlight, how bright is it and how much longer does that Fenix last than my Romisen? In my case I use my Romisen about once a month. That's not often enough for me to warrant some expensive über-flashlight.
Is it that serious?

Seems like you're about to shed a tear or something!:((

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Take some midol or something nobody else really cares, I made a simple comment and you want to cry and whine about not giving arguments.

If you want arguments and all that other stuff use search or go to candlepowerforums, I'm not obligated to provide any type of argument for any suggestion I make.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby dodgecoltracer » Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:38 am

I used to volunteer for the National Park Service out of Sandy Hook, NJ (the law enforcement side not the environmental side). And one morning everyone was out doing a beach clean up. One the park rangers needed to cut some rope from around something but didn't have knife. I kindly handed her my pocket sized folder. Her response was "Whoooaaa, it's too early for a knife," as she jumped back. I don't believe that it is ever actually too early for a knife :)
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby DarkScythe » Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:43 am

dodgecoltracer wrote:I used to volunteer for the National Park Service out of Sandy Hook, NJ (the law enforcement side not the environmental side). And one morning everyone was out doing a beach clean up. One the park rangers needed to cut some rope from around something but didn't have knife. I kindly handed her my pocket sized folder. Her response was "Whoooaaa, it's too early for a knife," as she jumped back. I don't believe that it is ever actually too early for a knife :)
LMAO WTF?

She's a park ranger but doesn't have a knife? Wow you would think if your area of work involves the outdoors that you would have at least a knife on you.

So did you end up cutting the rope?
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby MJS8725 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:21 am

When my wife's grandmother told me today that "carrying a knife is a bad example for your son, you don't need something like that!". Then she tried to take it away from me. WTF? Five minutes later I busted out my no-name 3 inch folder she had just complained very loudly about and helped my son open on of his Bday presents, because it was too difficult for her to open. Thus saving the day (or at least eliminating a lot of frustration). Yay, EDC!!!
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby Brash » Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:46 am

DarkScythe wrote:I'm not obligated to provide any type of argument for any suggestion I make.


No, you aren't. We probably won't take anything you say seriously though unless you are willing to back it up.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby ZombieGranny » Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:05 am

Sounds like it was 'hangover time' for that park ranger... Some days it's too early for anything.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby Towanda » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:58 am

MCboy wrote:While not exactly about EDC,

My church cleared and leveled some land for a base ball field. They cut up a tree in huge rounds and announced free U-cut U-haul firewood that Sunday. People asked me why I needed firewood in suburbia, especially a ~1/2 cord on my dinky apartment porch.

Your apartment has a fireplace? Nice.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby DarkScythe » Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:43 am

MJS8725 wrote:When my wife's grandmother told me today that "carrying a knife is a bad example for your son, you don't need something like that!". Then she tried to take it away from me. WTF? Five minutes later I busted out my no-name 3 inch folder she had just complained very loudly about and helped my son open on of his Bday presents, because it was too difficult for her to open. Thus saving the day (or at least eliminating a lot of frustration). Yay, EDC!!!
HAHA

Did she say anything after you opened up the gift?
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby El Charro » Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:06 pm

I failed.

I use to a carry a knife on a daily. Yesterday my buddy said "please tell me you have your knife today". Knife wont arrive till tuesday :(. i think this is the third time in two weeks that someone has asked me for my blade.

Also I have a Coast LED light. My buddy that gos to the police academy says while it aint no sure-fire it as bright as there. Coast lights can last for hours though. Maybe its time for a thread review on it.
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby MJS8725 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:15 pm

DarkScythe wrote:
MJS8725 wrote:When my wife's grandmother told me today that "carrying a knife is a bad example for your son, you don't need something like that!". Then she tried to take it away from me. WTF? Five minutes later I busted out my no-name 3 inch folder she had just complained very loudly about and helped my son open on of his Bday presents, because it was too difficult for her to open. Thus saving the day (or at least eliminating a lot of frustration). Yay, EDC!!!
HAHA

Did she say anything after you opened up the gift?



Oddly enough, no. Not a damn word... until I took the father and grandpa in law shooting later that day. She saw my belt knife, range kit, holster and EBR. I think she nearly fainted!
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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby DarkScythe » Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:35 pm

MJS8725 wrote:
DarkScythe wrote:
MJS8725 wrote:When my wife's grandmother told me today that "carrying a knife is a bad example for your son, you don't need something like that!". Then she tried to take it away from me. WTF? Five minutes later I busted out my no-name 3 inch folder she had just complained very loudly about and helped my son open on of his Bday presents, because it was too difficult for her to open. Thus saving the day (or at least eliminating a lot of frustration). Yay, EDC!!!
HAHA

Did she say anything after you opened up the gift?



Oddly enough, no. Not a damn word... until I took the father and grandpa in law shooting later that day. She saw my belt knife, range kit, holster and EBR. I think she nearly fainted!
After you left she probably said

"WHAT WAS MY LITTLE PRECIOUS THINKING, WHEN SHE MARRIED THIS RAMBO"

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Re: Awkard moments or negative responses while using your EDC!

Postby Lucretius » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:01 pm

El Charro wrote:I failed.

I use to a carry a knife on a daily. Yesterday my buddy said "please tell me you have your knife today". Knife wont arrive till tuesday :(. i think this is the third time in two weeks that someone has asked me for my blade.

Also I have a Coast LED light. My buddy that gos to the police academy says while it aint no sure-fire it as bright as there. Coast lights can last for hours though. Maybe its time for a thread review on it.


Oh, man. That's hard...

Everytime someone asks me for something (a knife, axe, shovel, band aid, etc.) I can count on some heavy ridicule if I don't have it on me, bcs of this ZS thing... Hasn't happened to me yet, though. :)
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