What long arm and handgun are you using to bug out?

by **Shadow_Man** » Tue May 29, 2012 9:50 am

If I had to limit myself to only one long arm and one handgun I would pick my most reliable tried and true pair. A folding stock Romanian AKM in 7.62x39 with a Surefire and Glock 19 (9mm) with light/laser. Why? The most common cause of a FTF (Fail to Fire) on an AK is an empty magazine. They are simple to maintain, will take a tremendous amount of use and abuse and keep on ticking. With a reliable accuracy in range out to 400 yards, that is more than enough for my means. If the threat is beyond a couple of hundred yards I'm far enough away to avoid it/them. Plus with the 30 round box magazines and a couple of 75 round drums you've got a fair amount of fire power. What I like about the G-19 is the ability to carry the 32 round "Happy Stick" magazines as well as the standard G-19 and G-17 mags. Both platforms will sustain a tremendous amount of abuse and keep on firing. Reliability is my number one priority.

I would plan to eventually do the paperwork and pay the tax stamp to add a 9mm Suppressor. For close quarter combat, house and building clearing you don't want to advertise your presence and you need your hearing to avoid surprise ambushes and such.

Another thing I plan on purchasing is a .22LR conversion kit for the Glock along with a Suppressor for this caliber as well. The twenty-two is very effective at close to medium ranges for Zeds and light enough to carry thousands of rounds of ammunition and even quieter with a suppressor than the 9mm.

by **AKFTW** » Tue May 29, 2012 10:44 am

Shadow_Man wrote:If I had to limit myself to only one long arm and one handgun I would pick my most reliable tried and true pair. A folding stock Romanian AKM in 7.62x39 with a Surefire and Glock 19 (9mm) with light/laser. Why? The most common cause of a FTF (Fail to Fire) on an AK is an empty magazine. They are simple to maintain, will take a tremendous amount of use and abuse and keep on ticking. With a reliable accuracy in range out to 400 yards, that is more than enough for my means. If the threat is beyond a couple of hundred yards I'm far enough away to avoid it/them. Plus with the 30 round box magazines and a couple of 75 round drums you've got a fair amount of fire power. What I like about the G-19 is the ability to carry the 32 round "Happy Stick" magazines as well as the standard G-19 and G-21 mags. Both platforms will sustain a tremendous amount of abuse and keep on firing. Reliability is my number one priority.

I would plan to eventually do the paperwork and pay the tax stamp to add a 9mm Suppressor. For close quarter combat, house and building clearing you don't want to advertise your presence and you need your hearing to avoid surprise ambushes and such.

Another thing I plan on purchasing is a .22LR conversion kit for the Glock along with a Suppressor for this caliber as well. The twenty-two is very effective at close to medium ranges for Zeds and light enough to carry thousands of rounds of ammunition and even quieter with a suppressor than the 9mm.

I approve of this

by **TDW586** » Tue May 29, 2012 3:41 pm

One thing...I would suggest you reconsider attempting to use G21 magazines in your G19. ;-)

by **cbr900** » Tue May 29, 2012 3:56 pm

Id have to say my WASR the thing is a beast I use to use it as my hog gun before I got my 308 it will taking a beating and keep running. Beyond basic, parts are everywhere does not require as much maintenance as other rifles. Handguns is a hard one, it wont be a Glock because I dont own any (nothing against them just dont like the grip angle) id like to take my SD40 as I love 14+1 in 40cal but I just dont trust plastic for long term abuse, id say I would have to go with one of my 1911's most likely full size GI as again parts are pretty common. Might change my mind after I put a few more rounds through my Tanfoglio to build up some trust with it, its kinda cheating though as it has two slide 9mm/22LR but technically its still one gun.

by **Shadow_Man** » Tue May 29, 2012 5:12 pm

TDW586 wrote:One thing...I would suggest you reconsider attempting to use G21 magazines in your G19.

Oooops......My Bad! :roll:

corrected error, I don't know why I keep thinking the full sized 9 mm is the 21 when it's the 17. For well over twenty some years I only spoke 1911, so please forgive me, I'm new to this European dialect.

by **jeepinbandtrider** » Tue May 29, 2012 6:10 pm

AR-15
Glock 17

That's it. Plus some spare ammo on top of my normal mag load.

by **12_Gauge_Chimp** » Tue May 29, 2012 7:25 pm

As of right now, it's my RIA 1911 and my Yugo SKS, but I'll be replacing the SKS with an AK some time in the future.

by **Polley** » Wed May 30, 2012 10:09 pm

by **Turd Fergueson** » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:46 pm

If I have to pick one of each, Mossberg 835 12 gauge, and Rossi .357 mag. Both cheap and reliable, both suitable for hunting and defense.

by **JARHEAD0811** » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:02 pm

Depending on the situation, most likely my SA M1A & Sig Sauer P220. I'd have to outfit my wife with the S&W 360 M&P 357 & Winchester Defender 12guage. Honestly, I hope I never have to bug out, staying put sounds safer vs dealing with road chaos, that is if the cituation allows.

by **rednekrampager** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:51 am

Mini-14 and a SR9.

by **KSAFFirefighter** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:58 pm

Nerf Machine Gun
Water Pistol

:):):):):):):)

by **Glockman** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:57 pm

Polley wrote:

What mount are you using for your AK's flashlight?

Thanks!

by **RickOShea** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:45 pm

Glockman wrote:
What mount are you using for your AK's flashlight?

Thanks!

IIRC, Polley is running a Vltor off-set mount with QD throw lever. Same as the one in the top right:

OT: One of my light weight ARs and an XDm .40.

by **msw** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:54 pm

why, all of them, of course. there is an implication of "you only get one of each,' but this is unspecific and therefore unclear.

were that the case, the sidearm would be my Superblackhawk, and the longarm would be the HK91.

by **0122358** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:11 pm

Polley wrote:

Hey what model of Mak is that?...ive been looking at at either a P83 or P64...the ONLY thing i dont like about the CZ 9x18s is that funky trigger guard

by **Polley** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:26 am

0122358 wrote:
Polley wrote:

Hey what model of Mak is that?...ive been looking at at either a P83 or P64...the ONLY thing i dont like about the CZ 9x18s is that funky trigger guard

It's a Bulgarian-made Makarov PM. Also, the AK mount (to whomever asked) is a VLTOR SMQ-OCG.

Oh, and here's how the SGL 21-94 sits today:

by **WheelgunDave** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:19 am

I would have to choose from the weapons I have the most ammo for at the moment.
That would be:
Mossberg 590A1
Mossberg .410 bolt action (it's old)
.50 Hawken
Remington 597 scoped
Dan Wesson 715 4" 357mag

Awaiting ammo:
Winchester 94 30/30 scoped
Norinco SKS
Pedersoli 58 Remington in .44
Traditions in-line .50 scoped
Western Field 20ga. pump

Other:
Bear Strike Compound Bow
Various blades in various sizes and configurations

That's my menu. Tough choices for me to leave behind (sentimental value) but I believe the 590A1 and the .357 would keep me going for a while. If I could get away with 2 long guns, I would include the Rem. 597.

by **engberg27** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:20 pm

XDM 9 mm.
Ruger sr-556.
Sawed of mossberg 500 in a scabbard on my pack with the option of shooting slugs or birdshot.

by **theotherryan** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:07 pm

Since the thread name limits me to one each I would take my M4agery and Glock 19. If I wasn't constrained by the thread and was on foot I would probably add a .22 in my bag.

If I was in a vehicle it would go by priority of people, our 'bugout/inch/whatever" bags, a few momento's like photo's, additional food and base camp type gear (bigger tent, coleman stove, lantern, 5 gallon tank(s), etc), and some extra gas then whatever other guns and ammo as well as other useful tools we could fit. I would try pretty hard to have a second Glock 19, my Rem 870 12 gauge shotgun with long and short barrels, whichever .22 (rifle or pistol) wasn't in my pack and my 1903 30.06 and a .357 magnum.

by **AKFTW** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:11 pm

by **0122358** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:26 pm

engberg27 wrote:XDM 9 mm.
Ruger sr-556.
Sawed of mossberg 500 in a scabbard on my pack with the option of shooting slugs or birdshot.

you got the nessesary nfa paperwork? or is it just shortened to 18 inches?

On topic...right now...my AR and JP Sauer single action .357

by **GhostOfTerra** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:12 pm

Glock 19 and PTR-91 for myself and Taurus PT-709 slim and ak-74 for the wife, that is until i get my ak-74 and a marlin model 60 in a duffel bag in the car.

by **Recon101** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:35 am

The answer is... This

I'm taking all of it if I can make it home. If not then I got my HK P30 and 5 Magazines.

LWRC M6A3
-Green Laser Sight (name brand wore off years ago...)
-Surefire
-Foregrip
-Aimpoint Army Comp M4
-Magpul Furniture
-Vortex Swivel Mount + 3x Magnifier
-Magpul B.A.D. Lever
-38 Magpul PMAGS

Hk P30
-Tlr-1s
-5 9mm 15 round magazines

Beretta Px4 .45 SD
-Surefire X300
-9 .45 ACP 10 round magazines

Sig P226 Navy
-11 9mm 15 round magazines

Mossberg 590A1
-Blackhawk Spec Ops Generation II pistol grip and stock furniture.
-Bandolier Sling
-Around-a-about 300 some rounds in varieties (slugs, birdshot, pdx1, 00 buck, extt...) of shotgun shells