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PlatonicPimp wrote:To the contrary, people are neither good nor evil. What people are is STUPID.
RONIN0520 wrote:I think that some of these people just seek attention...maybe their parents didn't beat the shit out of them enough when they were kids.
drewder wrote:Holy f#cking WACO sh!ts, WTF is THAT?
Darksword wrote:I don't have any patience for the "no-knock warrant" nonsense. If someone kicks in my door before providing a legal warrant to me first I'm going to assume they're a threat and act accordingly.
I'm about as law-abiding a citizen as you'll find anywhere, which means I have no reason not to cooperate with police. All they have to do is knock and tell me they have a warrant and the door's open. There's nothing to hide in my home, and one glance at my non-existent criminal record and CCW permit should tell them that.
The armor and nightvision goggles go on and I come out with battle rifle blazing. If they really are police, I'd hope for some kind of mexican standoff after the initial volley where they prove that they're really police and I chastise them for being idiots and kicking in a man's door without warning, and we work something out.
If not, I guess it'd be up to luck. I don't think too many gangbangers would expect to break into a house quite as heavily armed as mine so they might well turn and run. If not, I guess I'd just hope I took a few with me and that my cat found a good home.
if you are robbed on the street and at a disadvantage are you going to reach for your gun knowing you have about a 10% of coming out of that situation unscathed? Or are you going to hand over your wallet and know you will wake up tomorrow?
Darksword wrote:I'd appreciate if you lost some of the attitude. No offense, but you came off as rude with the whole "francis" crack.if you are robbed on the street and at a disadvantage are you going to reach for your gun knowing you have about a 10% of coming out of that situation unscathed? Or are you going to hand over your wallet and know you will wake up tomorrow?
I don't carry a .45 for decoration. If the robber was armed and threatening me, I'd pull it and I'd open fire. That's what it's for. You'd also be surprised how good your odds really are in a situation like that. The first person on the draw almost invariably wins. You can pull your pistol and shoot faster than his brain can react to you and send the signal to his fingers to pull the trigger, even if his gun is already pointed right at you. This was a fun fact that the retired Sergeant who taught my CCW class made us practice.
As for the raid/crooks angle again, you don't know what my house looks like. I'd no they were coming, and I have plenty of equipment within easy reach. And so does my room mate across the hall. I decline to go into more detail than that.
And yes, it's a touchy subject. But it's one that's been popping up in the news more and more lately. Just the other day I read about another botched DEA raid where they didn't announce themselves, it was the wrong address, and the homeowner opened fire. He was wounded, a DEA officer was shot in the neck, and the family dog was killed. No-knock warrants are a big, big problem.
Slugg wrote:Hide and call 911. If they don't know your there they won't shoot you. If you call the cops and they say, "know we aren't raiding your house" Then thats a good give away to send an officer or 7.
I can't believe how many people said they'd fight. I've both been robbed at gun point and seen a swat team breach an apartment just like that. "SEARCH WARRANT" and boom, door goes down, swat rushes in multiple entrances and everyone's on the ground with a gun pointed at them in seconds. If you think you're going to A) get to your gun if it's not in your hand or B) be able to use that gun or C) live to see another day if you do, then you have another thing coming.
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Caenus wrote:Funny, I was attacked pretty hard on the boards with this topic when I posted it 5 years ago. Seems like BG's have been using this tactic more frequently.
Rev wrote:It's an almost no win situation.Caenus wrote:Funny, I was attacked pretty hard on the boards with this topic when I posted it 5 years ago. Seems like BG's have been using this tactic more frequently.
Jamie wrote:Indubitably, my good sir and/or madam. to taking on 5-6 armed guys who are already in your house before you really know what's going on being a noisy way to commit suicide...
You should either lay down on the floor with your hand empty and in plain sight (on the assumption that the LEOs just got the wrong address or some such)...
You should jump out of the bathroom window, and watch what happens from your neighbor's house while calling 911 to confirm the raid...
I would go with option #1 because I'd have my son in the house, and am not going to leave him...
Captain_Obvious wrote:No knock warrants are necessary in certain situations. If you knock before serving a drug warrant, then don't bother getting the warrant. They will flush the dope. If there is no reasonable concern of evidence being destroyed, then a no knock isnt necessary. Everybody loves to hate the Po-lice.
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Tater Raider wrote:And people have died on no-knock warrants because they think they are being invaded while others have impersonated serving a no-knock warrant to loot a home, just so all bases are covered. Let's not go there and stick to the scenario.Captain_Obvious wrote:No knock warrants are necessary in certain situations. If you knock before serving a drug warrant, then don't bother getting the warrant. They will flush the dope. If there is no reasonable concern of evidence being destroyed, then a no knock isnt necessary. Everybody loves to hate the Po-lice.
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