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So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by LyraJean » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:59 pm

http://www.adn.com/outdoors-adventure/2 ... er-rescue/

I felt like this was the most appropriate forum and thought it would bring up some valid discussion about living off the land no matter where it may be.

After reading the article he should have followed this advice at the minimum.
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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by ineffableone » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:55 pm

Yep, he should have taken that advice to do a trial run where there is some help.

He also made numerous other mistakes like not having an emergency back up in case he did not check in, having no means to filter water, only having tarps and no tent, making all these plans with out having set foot on the property at all, and so many others.
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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by TacAir » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:08 pm

There is a word in the Alaska lexicon for folks like this:

Chee·cha·ko translates roughly to equal parts Greenhorn + Dumbass.

Sadly, most Urban folks, the younger moreso, have no clue about Alaska.

The advice I give most Europeans planning on coming to Alaska for an adventure is:
Check in with the local Trooper post and give them a list of your next of kin with contact information.
Purchase a limited life insurance policy so your body (or whatever is left) can be shipped home.
Write a will, so your funeral can be as you wish and if any of your hard goods are recovered, can be disposed of as you wish.


At least this fellow lived to tell the tale, I'm impressed - really. During a local TV interview, all he did was cry...his spirit had been destroyed by the wild. I don't blame him.

I've been to military winter survival school and have spent a fair amount of time in some pretty remote areas of Alaska, summer and winter. I'd never even consider this area as suitable for a vacation, let alone a place to live.

Alaska is a great place to visit - drop me a note and I'll do my best to help you plan for an enjoyable visit.
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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by modustollens » Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:00 pm

TacAir wrote:There is a word in the Alaska lexicon for folks like this:

Chee·cha·ko translates roughly to equal parts Greenhorn + Dumbass.
Sounds like he watched to much 'reality' TV about being a mountain man.

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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by raptor » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:17 am

I bet you could buy his parcel of AK land for a $1.00 if you wanted it.

Great find!

So much failure in one article. I am glad the guy lived to tell the story.

90 +miles anywhere in a cheap blow up raft is asking for trouble.

His one play B was a Global Star phone.

It would have been so easy to have had a simple request of the air taxi company to come and get him in week to get extra supplies.

That or in addition to a sat phone spend $399 on a marine EPIRB.

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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by TacAir » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:32 am

raptor wrote:I bet you could buy his parcel of AK land for a $1.00 if you wanted it.

Great find!

So much failure in one article. I am glad the guy lived to tell the story.

90 +miles anywhere in a cheap blow up raft is asking for trouble.

His one play B was a Global Star phone.

It would have been so easy to have had a simple request of the air taxi company to come and get him in week to get extra supplies.

That or in addition to a sat phone spend $399 on a marine EPIRB.
Last I used an Air Taxi = $400 wet hour. That was 15 years ago (looking for lost Boy Scouts who weren't lost - long story)

SatPhones are spotty at best. The InReach system has proven itself to work, and work well, when needed.
(https://blog.delorme.com/2015/06/03/ala ... er-rescue/)

That said, while the kid was stupid in too many ways to count, he had some real guts to want to try it alone. Russians can be funny that way. I guess he thought it would be more like "home"

From the posted story
"Yakushin was surprised that his property was spongy, wet tundra, not farmland like his grandparents' place near Siberia."

For the record, even Alaska is 'near Siberia' - I think the reporter missed Geography class....

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Looks pretty nice - until you look at a map

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The A/O from the air.

http://www.offgridquest.com/rural-land/alaska-adventure
http://www.adn.com/outdoors-adventure/2 ... er-rescue/

http://www.city-data.com/zips/99757.html has a zoom-able topo map of the area. Have fun, stay safe.
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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by ineffableone » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:17 pm

So how long till they make a movie or TV mini series out of this story for folks to watch like Into the Wild which I am guessing this guy hadn't watched.
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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by raptor » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:26 pm

TacAir wrote: Last I used an Air Taxi = $400 wet hour. That was 15 years ago (looking for lost Boy Scouts who weren't lost - long story)

I would have thought the going rate was double that. Seaplanes in So. LA are $750+ an hr.

Still I would bet that on the last day he would have paid $9,500 for an air taxi. :lol:

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Post by Hiroshima_Morphine » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:21 pm

Wow....

So when DNR says "we highly recommend you visit property before bidding or purchasing and all sales final" in their land offerings, they mean it.

The land will probably revert back to the state, I'm assuming he 'financed' with a contract with the State and did not purchase out right.
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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by LyraJean » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:52 am

Sounds like he thought it would be just like his grandparents farm. Also why would your plan A involve some stranger who says he's going to be there.

I know in Little House on the Prairie (books) Pa and Mr. Edwards helped each other out but originally Pa was just going to do everything himself. It was just serendipitous that Mr. Edwards a. happened to be there and b. willing to help out by trading labor. What was this guy's plans to build a cabin if stranger wasn't there to say anything. Another theory, stranger went and checked out his property saw how difficult it would be and decided to not live there.
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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by TacAir » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:40 pm

Hiroshima_Morphine wrote:Wow....

So when DNR says "we highly recommend you visit property before bidding or purchasing and all sales final" in their land offerings, they mean it.

The land will probably revert back to the state, I'm assuming he 'financed' with a contract with the State and did not purchase out right.
The SoA doesn't carry notes. He owns it. Swap and all.
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Post by Hiroshima_Morphine » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:50 pm

TacAir wrote:
Hiroshima_Morphine wrote:Wow....

So when DNR says "we highly recommend you visit property before bidding or purchasing and all sales final" in their land offerings, they mean it.

The land will probably revert back to the state, I'm assuming he 'financed' with a contract with the State and did not purchase out right.
The SoA doesn't carry notes. He owns it. Swamp and all.
I don't understand. I thought they did?

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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by LyraJean » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:07 pm

TacAir wrote:
Hiroshima_Morphine wrote:Wow....

So when DNR says "we highly recommend you visit property before bidding or purchasing and all sales final" in their land offerings, they mean it.

The land will probably revert back to the state, I'm assuming he 'financed' with a contract with the State and did not purchase out right.
The SoA doesn't carry notes. He owns it. Swap and all.
So if this guy wanted to he could learn from his mistakes and try again. Hopefully with more forethought and at least stay at the nearby town for a test run.
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Re: So this guy decided to live off the land in Alaska

Post by grumpyviking » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:15 am

dosent just happen in Alaska, even in my mild neck of the woods, sure any fool can survive in the woods in a nice warm summer but its the winter which seperates the men from the boys, that's when the real skills come into play, most ordinary people will be dead long before spring comes.
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