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Oil rig explosion & fire near Venice, La.

Post by Cybrludite » Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:12 am

News, such as is available so far, HERE

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Post by Cybrludite » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:44 am

Update: 115 of the 126 aboard accounted for. 8 injured, 3 critically, with one of them airlifted to a burn unit.
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Post by Chase The hero » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:33 am

wow. I have an uncle who lives in Houma. My prayers go to those not found yet.
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Post by phil_in_cs » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:13 am

For those that are filtered:
Oil rig explosion off Plaquemines has big rescue effort underway


Dave Cohen Reporting

An explosion has rocked an oil rig in coastal waters. Crews are working to rescue more than one-hundred people from the rig and the surrounding water off the coast of Plaquemines Parish. The rig is also on fire.

Parish President Billy Nungesser says they know at least three people have been critically injured.

He tells WWL First News that some 120 people were on the rig "Deep Water Horizon" around 11:00pm.

The Trans-Ocean Atlantic Oil Rig is off the coast of Venice, Louisiana.

The U.S. Coast Guard is leading the rescue effort.

Nungesser says as of about 1:00am one person had been airlifted to a burn unit with reportedly extensive injuries.

He says some of the workers were able to get in at least one life boat and get away from the rig.
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Re: Oil rig explosion & fire near Venice, La.

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phil_in_cs wrote:For those that are filtered:
Oil rig explosion off Plaquemines has big rescue effort underway


Dave Cohen Reporting

An explosion has rocked an oil rig in coastal waters. Crews are working to rescue more than one-hundred people from the rig and the surrounding water off the coast of Plaquemines Parish. The rig is also on fire.

Parish President Billy Nungesser says they know at least three people have been critically injured.

He tells WWL First News that some 120 people were on the rig "Deep Water Horizon" around 11:00pm.

The Trans-Ocean Atlantic Oil Rig is off the coast of Venice, Louisiana.

The U.S. Coast Guard is leading the rescue effort.

Nungesser says as of about 1:00am one person had been airlifted to a burn unit with reportedly extensive injuries.

He says some of the workers were able to get in at least one life boat and get away from the rig.
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Post by phil_in_cs » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:39 am

current tally is 12 missing, 15 injured. The water is warm, so you should be able to last quite a while if you are in the gulf and not otherwise injured. However, with choppers and cutters searching actively, to still be missing after these hours is not a good sign.

http://blogs.chron.com/newswatchenergy/ ... ing_1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Oil rig explosion & fire near Venice, La.

Post by raptor » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:58 pm

I will not vouch for these pictures being authentic but a trusted source said these pictures were taken at the site of the rig fire. All I will say is that the rig fire could look like this.

To give you some scale the supply vessel using the fire monitor is likely between 180 feet and 250 feet long.

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An oil rig is perhaps the absolutely worst place to be if there is a fire...well ok a plane in the air is likely worse but not by much.

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Post by grand94jeep » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:07 pm

Well... there goes the gas prices again. Just when we finally made it back to $2.64/gal. :evil:
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Re: Oil rig explosion & fire near Venice, La.

Post by raptor » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:09 pm

grand94jeep wrote:Well... there goes the gas prices again. Just when we finally made it back to $2.64/gal. :evil:

It is a drilling rig not a production platform. The well production was not on line and would not be coming on line for about year assuming this fire had not occurred.

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Post by JTNieman » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:13 pm

And it's also one of a thousand :P

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Post by grand94jeep » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:16 pm

raptor wrote:
grand94jeep wrote:Well... there goes the gas prices again. Just when we finally made it back to $2.64/gal. :evil:

It is a drilling rig not a production platform. The well production was not on line and would not be coming on line for about year assuming this fire had not occurred.

Whew.. That's a relief.

It seems like every little thing drives fuel prices up. :|
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Re: Oil rig explosion & fire near Venice, La.

Post by shrapnel » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:21 pm

Jesus. Looking at that fire, I find it hard to imagine that anyone would have gotten out alive and unhurt.

Yes, I know that the fire didn't just leap into existence at that size, but still.


Those platforms are built up way too high to jump from, right? I know that they drill pipes into the ocean floor, but does anything leak and float up to the surface of the water, like a small oil slick? Do they have lifeboats (I assume so, but what do I know?)? If so, do they have to be lowered down on really long cables from the top of the platform, or are there boats on several levels, or what?

Basically, how does one evacuate from a burning oil platform*?






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Post by JTNieman » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:28 pm

They have ropes that go down close to water level. There's one every 15' or so. There are also stairs and ladders going down to the boat landing level. The bigger ones have escape boats that can be lowered down.

We've never designed one as big as that one pictured, or close to it. The ones we've done are like... 20 man crew or so. Ours only had ropes and stairs and ladders.

ETA: Oh, and I don't think it's -too- far to jump down... I mean, you -could- possibly get hurt, I guess, but I mean, the alternative is burning alive. If you had a few seconds though, I'd scale down the big rope (with periodic knots) and then drop.

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Re: Oil rig explosion & fire near Venice, La.

Post by Marinus » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:37 pm

shrapnel wrote:Basically, how does one evacuate from a burning oil platform*?
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(This one is from a ship, but many oilplatforms use a similar system.)
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Re: Oil rig explosion & fire near Venice, La.

Post by shrapnel » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:44 pm

How tall are big ones? A fall into water from a height that allows your speed to be around 90 mph is very often fatal- your ribs break and you aren't able to breathe or swim effectively, and/or your spine breaks and you aren't able to swim or breathe effectively, or your limbs break and you aren't able to swim effectively, or... You get the idea.

That is not to say that, if I were on an oil platform, and it was on fire, and I couldn't get to a more sedate means of leaving the platform, I wouldn't jump. I'd rather drown than burn. :cry:
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Post by JTNieman » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:55 pm

90mph ?

If my math is right...

90miles/hour
475200feet/3600seconds
14,484meters/3600seconds
4m/second


4m/s is like... uh... half a second of drop at 9.8m/s/s ?

ETA: I'm brainfarting. 4m/s doesn't seem right at all for 90mph, so somewhere I goofed. I was trying to find how long it takes to reach 90mph and... screw it I'm going home.

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Re: Oil rig explosion & fire near Venice, La.

Post by raptor » Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:28 pm

shrapnel wrote:How tall are big ones?
This is a semi-submersible rig so the height can vary greatly but generally a minimum of 40 feet above the water.

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Re: Oil rig explosion & fire near Venice, La.

Post by shrapnel » Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:34 pm

Full disclosure- I pulled that number from some website after an incredibly cursory Google search. So, the number might be way off. Still, fall for more than 100 or so feet and I suspect that you might not be doing so well. Injuries that wouldn't kill you on dry land are a different story when you have to actively work to avoid drowning.
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Post by Cybrludite » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:50 am

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PORT FOURCHON, La. – Buses carrying survivors of a thunderous blast aboard an oil platform off the Louisiana coast are headed to a suburban New Orleans hotel where their families are waiting to greet them.

About 100 workers made it to a supply boat after Tuesday night's explosion. Early Thursday, they arrived in Port Fourchon where they were checked by doctors. Five or six families welcomed them to the coastal town.

Dana Eugene says her brother, Kevin Eugene, was shaken by the scary explosion aboard the rig.

She says he's tired and doesn't look good. She says the family just wants to get home to Slidell northeast of New Orleans.

Coast Guard rescuers are searching for signs of the 11 unaccounted for since the thunderous blast rocked the Deepwater Horizon late Tuesday, leaving 17 injured.
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Re: Oil rig explosion & fire near Venice, La.

Post by Marinus » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:17 am

shrapnel wrote:So, the number might be way off. Still, fall for more than 100 or so feet and I suspect that you might not be doing so well. Injuries that wouldn't kill you on dry land are a different story when you have to actively work to avoid drowning.
Falling from that hight you would hit the water at around 93km/h = 57mile/h (not accounting for air resistance so in reality it would be somewhat slower). I really don't know what water would feel like if impacted at such speed, but it sounds awfully unhealthy.
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Post by airballrad » Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:57 pm

Latest report is that the rig has sunk:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/22/oil.ri ... tml?hpt=T1

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Post by phil_in_cs » Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:01 pm

confirmation on the sinking, and bit more detail:

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The Times wrote: Oil spill off US coast ‘five times worse than we thought’, officials admit

BP said that it was escalating its response to a worsening oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico as US officials warned that the amount of crude leaking from the sunken Deepwater Horizon rig was five times greater than originally thought.

A third leak has been discovered at the site of the explosion nine days ago, increasing the amount of oil spilled into the ocean to 5,000 barrels of oil a day compared with an initial estimate of 1,000 barrels, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

BP said that it had deployed 69 vessels including barges and skimmers as well as 100,000ft of boom, which acts as a barrier to contain the oil. It said that more than 76,000 gallons of dispersant chemicals had been sprayed on to the oil to break up the slick.

“We are attacking this spill on all fronts, bringing into play all and any resources and advanced technologies we believe can help,” said Tony Hayward, the BP chief executive.

With no obvious way of shutting off the leak soon, though, the scale of the challenge remains daunting.

Bobby Jindal, the Governor of Louisiana, called on the US Government for emergency assistance to prevent an environmental disaster as the slick threatened to hit fragile marshland along the coast today.

Winds have helped the slick, which spans 100 miles (160km) at its longest and 40 miles at its widest, to move to within 16 miles (26 kilometres) of Louisiana’s coastline.

Mr Jindal said that a part of the slick that had broken off from the main spill was likely to be the first to reach the coast, hitting the Pass-a-Loutre Wildlife Management Area, a haven for birds, fish, sea turtles and other wildlife.

The slick could hit Breton Sound by Saturday and the Chandeleur Islands by Sunday.

The new leak means that within 50 days the slick could reach the size of the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill off Alaska.

Officials had previously found two leaks in the riser, the 5,000ft-long pipe that connected the rig to the wellhead. Doug Suttles, chief operating officer for exploration and production for BP, said that a third leak had been discovered closer to the source. “I’m very, very confident this leak is new,” he said.

Strong onshore winds “will move floating oil towards the delta with possible shoreline impacts by Friday night,” NOAA forecast chart said.

Charlie Henry, the administration’s scientific support coordinator, said there was a high risk that southeasterly winds would push emulsified oil and “tar balls” into the delta area by Friday night.

Mr Jindal said in a statement: “Our top priority is to protect our citizens and the environment. These resources are critical to mitigating the impact of the oil spill on our coast.”

A controlled burn of the oil has started, which involves igniting patches of the oil-water mixture inside booms, but this is expected to remove only about 3 per cent of the slick.

It could be enough, though, to prevent onshore wildlife habitats and marshland being overwhelmed. The contamination of Louisiana’s fragile wetlands would be almost impossible to clear up and be disastrous for waterfowl and rare wildlife.

The burn plan is an admission that the $6 million a day (£4 million) operation to bring the crisis under control has failed. Rear Admiral Mary Landry, who is leading the Government’s response to the disaster, said that if the oil well was not secured the spill could become one of the worst in US history.

She said that the oil burn was “just one tool in a tool kit” of plans.

BP is also trying to activate a device on the seabed that is designed to clamp shut over the subsea well. A metal canopy is being built that would be used to siphon off the leaking oil.

The company is moving two new drilling rigs into position to drill “relief wells” that could be used to cap the leak by injecting cement and mud into it.
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