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Post by Kathy in FL » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:41 am

I thought this WAS worth started a new thread.

For one the WHO actually, finally declared a pandemic and two, the other one pre-announcement was getting kinda long again.

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Post by Kathy in FL » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:42 am

HK set to order closure of all primary schools
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking_ ... p?id=15026" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hong Kong is set to order all primary and lower-level schools to close for two weeks after confirming that a cluster of influenza cases at St Paul's Convent School involves the swine flu virus.

The order, to be effective from tomorrow,is expected to be announced by Chief Executive Donald Tsang Yam-kuen shortly.

The move to shut all primary schools, kindergartens and nurseries came after Centre for Health Protection confirmed that the St Paul cluster of cases are swine flu infections and raise the number of cases to 12 from nine previously.

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Post by Kathy in FL » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:44 am

Swine Flu: Don't Panic
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124467570858004013.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

New strategy against swine flu
http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/New-s ... 5356220.jp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

H1N1 flu: plan now for fall & winter
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Post by the_alias » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:45 am

So far it has seemed about as deadly as normal flu...

Until it starts to actually kill lots of people then meh. I reckon this isn't the worst pandemic we'll face. It is a good test of governments ability to combat it though.
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Post by Kathy in FL » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:47 am

Important note: most of what I'm posting right now came out AHEAD of the pandemic announcement. We'll have to see what tactics they use now that they've officially announced a pandemic.

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'We're in a war zone': chief
Leaders of affected communities say health resources inadequate
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/ ... 60982.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Current outbreak raises fears of 1918 repeat
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/ ... 60877.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Swine Flu Origin > Fort Leonard Wood (FLW), Missouri
http://www.opencube.com/h1n1/origin_missouri.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by ozwyn » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:50 am

the_alias wrote:So far it has seemed about as deadly as normal flu...

Until it starts to actually kill lots of people then meh. I reckon this isn't the worst pandemic we'll face. It is a good test of governments ability to combat it though.
I understand the kill rate for normal flu is .1% and so far depending on which statistic you argue with we are looking at .3% to .7% Signifigantly worse than normal flu, but not plague levels
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Post by liberty45 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:56 am

ozwyn wrote:
the_alias wrote:So far it has seemed about as deadly as normal flu...

Until it starts to actually kill lots of people then meh. I reckon this isn't the worst pandemic we'll face. It is a good test of governments ability to combat it though.
I understand the kill rate for normal flu is .1% and so far depending on which statistic you argue with we are looking at .3% to .7% Signifigantly worse than normal flu, but not plague levels
Remember a PANDEMIC DOES NOT MEAN that the virus is more deadly, it just means it is spreading rapidly and faster than normal flu, which is the case with A/H1N1.

Now looking at Avian Flu... the Avian Flu strain is far deadlier than the A/H1N1 flu virus that has currently caused the WHO to declare a pandemic. In the unlikely, but possible event that both strains mix and evolve with the strongest traits of both of these flu viruses then we are in deep trouble.

Many of you may not be worried that a Pandemic was declare, but remember it is not the Pandemic that may cause you problems, it may be the panic of the unaware, uninformed public that can greatly hurt you.
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Post by Kathy in FL » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:56 am

If this follows the pattern of other influenza pandemics then what we are seeing now is a "mild" first wave of infections. However, the behavioral similarities are being clouded by the administration of antivirals and the fact that we have such an international travel system in place in comparison with even the last pandemic 41 years ago.

I'm withholding judgment for the time being but am preparing nonetheless simply because of my children and the potential to disrupt JIT delivery of goods and services. I've said it more than once ... ad nauseum in fact ... but I'll say it again anyway. It doesn't take a single death to impact our current system for goods and services. The whys and wherefores have been discussed before. JIT delivery is a great economic tool ... but it is also a fragile system that is easily thrown off.

Just prepare, don't panic ... but above all do what you can to protect kids, pregnant women, and people with "underlying conditions" that could exacerbate influenza complications. Your case may be mild ... but what if you give it to someone that it kills simply because you were too arrogant to think beyond your own symptoms? Let's be careful folks.


the_alias wrote:So far it has seemed about as deadly as normal flu...

Until it starts to actually kill lots of people then meh. I reckon this isn't the worst pandemic we'll face. It is a good test of governments ability to combat it though.

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Post by Kathy in FL » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:59 am

OK, if this flu is so "mild" please explain the need to open a new ventilator area. :?
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The Bridgewater Center for Rehabilitation and Nursing opened a new, 12-bed ventilator care unit Wednesday at its 159 Front Street facility.

It's the only long-term care facility in the Central New York Region to carry such equipment.

Trudy Claudy, administrator, says, "It's uplifting that we can provide a service to the community for patients sitting in hospitals and there's no place to go other than to stay in a hospital bed. We can offer a more home-like setting for them."

Bridgewater is also looking to create a dialysis unit for people who need long-term dialysis care.

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Post by Kathy in FL » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:02 am

I doubt we'll see this level of panic ... at least initially unless the CFR gets worse ... here in the USA. However, some countries will undoubtedly face worse than us.
Swine Flu Panic in Egypt

Wed. Jun. 10, 2009 By Amr Emam, IOL Correspondent

Authorities have quarantined all 240 residents of the AUC dorm, preventing ordinary people and journalists from coming near it. (Reuters)

CAIRO – The detection of seven swine flu infections among the students of the American University in Cairo (AUC) is sending panic waves across this populous Arab country.
"People run away once they know that I lecture there," said Sarah el-Nagar, a lecturer at AUC, told IslamOnline.net.

"People are very worried."

Seven AUC students have tested positive to the H1N1 virus, widely known as swine flu, over the past few days.

The students, who have arrived from the US a week ago, live at a dormitory in the luxury residential area of Zamalik, southwest of the capital Cairo.

Health officials have quarantined all 240 residents in the multi-storey dorm, preventing ordinary people and journalists from coming near it.

Outside the dorm, white-clad policemen stood meters away from the building and put masks on their mouths and noses, reflecting the state of high alert and fear engulfing the whole place.

Life on el-Mer’ashly Street, which houses the building, has come to an almost standstill.

Nobody dared to come near the street, which the government had barricaded and isolate from this luxury residential area.

Mustafa Abdel Satar, a 27-year-old delivery man for a major restaurant chain, no longer takes orders to el-Mer’ashly Street.

"There’s no kidding with this disease," Abdel Satar told IOL.

"You never know how exactly you can contract the virus. You can get it by just pressing the doorbell of the apartment of infected people."

Some of his colleagues are even turning down orders in other places in Zamalik out of fear.

The virus has now been diagnosed in more than 21,000 people around the world, and has caused the death of at least 125 people, mostly in Mexico, according to the World Health Organization.

Limitless fright

Many panicking Egyptians are buying masks to avoid infections.

Ismail Haggag, an AUC accounting student, says many of his colleagues have hurried up to special labs to ensure that they had not contracted the virus.

"A colleague of mine had gone to a lab to do some tests once his temperature rose," he told IOL.

"He proved negative to the virus, but this might show how people are very worried."

The AUC administration has sent mails to its students and staff telling them that classes have been suspended until June 15.

Egyptian health officials announced Wednesday that two people tested positive to the virus bringing the total number of confirmed infections to ten so far.

"The new cases are from Cairo and Alexandria," said Dr. Abdel Rahman Shaheen, the Ministry of Health official spokesman.

Egypt detected its first swine flu case days ago in a 12-year-old Egyptian-American girl who had arrived for a holiday with some family members.

The authorities had stepped up surveillance measures at airports, ports and terminals to prevent the arrival of the disease using thermal monitors that detect people with high fever, an early symptom.

Shortly after the discovery of the first case in Mexico, Egypt decided to cull more than 300,000 pigs as a preventive measure against the virus.

Observers say swine flu makes Egypt face what amounts to a Hobson’s choice.

With a population of 80 million that is concentrated on less than 7 percent of the land, Egypt is a hugely dense country where the spread of infection is so easy.

With 29 bird flu patients, Egypt is the world’s worst hit country outside the Asian content.

Egyptian hospitals continue to receive people who have contracted the deadly avian flu virus every day.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Sate ... /NWELayout" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Comment: I didn't know that packing a mask and getting tested was panic -- about culling all the pigs, well... better safe than sorry?

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Post by Kathy in FL » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:03 am

Hundreds Of Thousands May Have Swine Flu In NYC
11/Jun/09

The New York City Health Department said that hundreds of thousands of city residents may have contracted swine flu.

Roughly 6.9 percent of the 1,006 residents surveyed by the Health Department from May 20 to 27 reported experiencing flu-like symptoms in April and May. That suggests more than 570,000 New Yorkers may have fallen ill.

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/swine.flu. ... 40134.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by liberty45 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:03 am

Are you sure this is related to H1N1?
Kathy in FL wrote:OK, if this flu is so "mild" please explain the need to open a new ventilator area. :?
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The Bridgewater Center for Rehabilitation and Nursing opened a new, 12-bed ventilator care unit Wednesday at its 159 Front Street facility.

It's the only long-term care facility in the Central New York Region to carry such equipment.

Trudy Claudy, administrator, says, "It's uplifting that we can provide a service to the community for patients sitting in hospitals and there's no place to go other than to stay in a hospital bed. We can offer a more home-like setting for them."

Bridgewater is also looking to create a dialysis unit for people who need long-term dialysis care.

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Post by Kathy in FL » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:08 am

Severe flu prompts Manitoba to take emergency measures
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le1177311/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thailand sees jump in H1N1 cases, many in Pattaya
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCr ... SBKK408452" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Swine flu cases in India total 14
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?a=jg ... a_total_14&" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Swine flu' cruise ship blocked from Caribbean ports
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/artic ... -ship.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Vietnam confirms 22 A/H1N1 cases
http://english.vovnews.vn/Home/Vietnam- ... 105086.vov" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Kathy in FL » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:11 am

Australian swine flu spread contributes to fears of pandemic
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 477502.ece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dwindling supplies means Tamiflu only for emergencies - Nicola Roxon
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 62,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

German officials: At least 30 children at Japanese international school have swine flu
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadi ... OhhYlNgFsA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nations briefed in preparation for WHO swine flu pandemic call
http://archive.gulfnews.com/world/Unite ... 21823.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Swine flu quarantines interrupt trips to China
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida ... 92084.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Flu patients now 92 (Philippines)
http://www.mb.com.ph/node/203740" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

First Nation hit by swine flu struggling to get medical supplies: chief
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Asian governments get advance notice of WHO plans to declare swine flu pandemic
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadi ... TQ4j_N5tFw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Analysis suggests first cases of swine flu happened months before spotted
http://www.680news.com/news/headlines/m ... 83647_6496" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

VT: Williston schools close early because of flu
http://www.vpr.net/news_detail/85146/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NC confirms more Swine Flu cases
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?secti ... id=6858745" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hong Kong Closes Primary Schools on Swine Flu Cluster (Update3)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... evj__qMcOk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


SA's first swine flu hospital case
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 82,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by sheddi » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:15 am

Chen's just (16:11 UTC) announced pandemic / Phase 6 in a live press conference.
On the basis of available evidence ... I have therefore decided to raise the level of influenza pandemic alert from Phase 5 to Phase 6. The world is now at the start of the 2009 influenza pandemic.
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Widespread school closures plan to combat swine flu (UK)
http://www.darlingtonandstocktontimes.c ... swine_flu/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Analysis: why has the WHO waited so long?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_a ... 479432.ece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

3 more swine flu deaths reported in NYC
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=10516260" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note: this brings NY's total to 15.

Second Michigan death linked to swine flu
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090611 ... -swine-flu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Swine flu pandemic declaration to trigger vaccine switch
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... witch.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Madeira Beach, Florida couple found dead had the flu, neighbors said.>
http://tampabayonline.mobi/tbo/db_6989/ ... ES6d&pn=0=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Blast it all ... there could be more of this coming if we don't set up a plan to monitor our elderly and/or those with no extended family to keep an eye on them.

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Post by JakkSchitt » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:32 am

WHO announcement carried live right now
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Swine flu pandemic declared by World Health Organization-LA Times
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The H1N1 virus is spreading in distinct regions of the globe. But the WHO says the pandemic is only 'moderate in severity' and cautions against overreaction by the public.
By Thomas H. Maugh II

WHO declares first 21st century flu pandemic
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Ask The Doc: How Exactly Can Flu Kill A Healthy Person?

The tragic death of an otherwise completely-healthy nine-year-old Concord girl has brutally reminded us all of the swine flu. We all send our deepest condolences to the family and friends of the little girl. It seems incomprehensible, with the state of modern medical technology, that such a thing could happen. But each year many people die from the flu - and most of us probably assume that those afflicted are only the very elderly or chronically ill. The swine flu news coverage has reminded us that even healthy people can die from flu.

With all this increased flu awareness, more than one loyal Doc Gurley reader asks what many people may be wondering, "But how exactly do you die from the flu?" It's true - in our frenzied nationwide swine flu coverage, that essential bit of information was often left out. And counting on what you already know can be a mistake.

Many of us have years of personal flu experience under our belts - and even more mega-hours of commercials drilled into our heads with flu descriptions of "sniffling, sneezing, runny nose." Sadly, none of this prepares us for the real deal.

See, the "flu" we usually get is actually a cold. Flu season burns through communities and thousands upon thousands are affected, but still we, as a people, often lump flu and colds together into one mucousy glob.

Flu, in contrast to a cold, is the kind of sickness where people who've had it say, with a smug glance, "oh believe me, you'll know if you get it." Flu is often described as initially making you feel as though you'd been hit by a bus - a whole body ache that not many other things can cause.

Swine flu, in contrast, is often described as NOT causing the whole-body ache.

Regular flu also often has a fever - and not just any fever, but a high fever over 101 degrees.

Swine flu, also in contrast, has been documented in people without much, or even any, fever.

Regular flu can cause runny nose and coughing - and even progress until you're coughing up green and yellow sputum. Swine flu can do the same.

Swine flu also seems to have a more common gastrointestinal phase where you get nauseated or even puke, with maybe some diarrhea.

So we've got coughing, snot, maybe some aches, maybe some fever, maybe some puking. But still - how does it get so bad that you die?

Whether it's regular flu or swine flu, any illness that progresses rapidly can kill you. So maybe you've had one day of the aches, a low grade temp and a little nausea - but if you progress in that one day from a wee bit of nausea to puking constantly, having watery diarrhea, and getting dizzy when you stand, you've got to get help soon. The younger or older you are, and if you take certain medications, the more dangerous these gastrointestinal symptoms are.

And that cough? You'll often read that if you aren't better in three days, you should be seen. But, in fact, any illness that makes you feel short of breath means you need a prompt evaluation. With children, difficulty breathing can be harder to assess, especially if your child is not old enough to talk - listlessness and rapid breathing may be your only possible symptoms, so keep in close touch with your pediatrician. However annoying or expensive it seems, shortness of breath means a trip to the doctor - even if your symptoms have existed for only a day or even mere hours. Because if you can't breathe, you can't live.

Finally, there are two little-known flu facts to keep in mind as we continue to monitor the evolution of swine flu. First, flu of all kinds causes your body to pump out flu-fighting glycoproteins (called cytokines) and special immune cells. This physiologic response is very specific to viruses. Unfortunately, the unintended consequence of your body's eager flu reaction is that it can leave you very susceptible to bacterial infections. Kind of like rushing all your body's troops off to battle invaders on the Western front, while leaving your Eastern territory completely unguarded. In practical terms, this means that you have to keep watch, even after flu symptoms seem to get better. A new fever, a worse cough, a sudden bad headache, a strange rash - all of these can mean wicked bacteria have invaded and are running relatively unchecked while your body is still focused on the flu (swine or otherwise). Sometimes it's only after a normally healthy person gets overwhelmingly sick with a bacterial infection that healthcare providers realize a prior flu infection might be part of the problem.

Second, another little discussed side effect of battling the flu is post-flu depression. Those flu-fighting cytokines seem to induce it (which is why people undergoing treatment for hepatitis C also have to guard against depression as a side effect of treatment). Agatha Christie even wrote a lovely Miss Marple novel where Miss Marple is depressed for months after surviving the Great Flu epidemic and can't seem to find her zest for life again. While post-flu depression is not likely to be lethal, it can have an impact on your ability to get back into life, and can cause you to wonder if something is still seriously wrong with you.

Bottom line: If something that feels like the flu is burning through your friends/famly/social group, be sure to watch yourself and others for rapidly progressing symptoms, an inability to keep fluids down (or in!), any shortness of breath, and any "new" symptoms after 4-5 days. A good medical evaluation will go a long way towards both reassuring you and getting you appropriate, prompt treatment, if indicated. And if you've cruised through a flu-like infection relatively safely, watch out for symptoms of lingering depression - nurture yourself, and get mental health help if you need it.

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Post by Bonecrusher Doc » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:36 pm

U.S troops in Germany with H1N1 - my neck of the woods.

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Post by Broken1 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:57 pm

I wish they'd (CDC, WHO, etc...) all get on the same page as far as reporting goes. Have a set time and schedule and everybody reports then... WHO says 28,774 but that's based off of week old CDC data saying 13,217 (46%) on 5Jun09, that will be around 17,000 (making us ~52%) tomorrow or more. WHO will probably update then, but all updates after that until next Friday will be distorted because the US (whose week old data still makes up 46%) won't update until the next Friday... :roll: So today's numbers aren't even close to accurate even in regard to what's being recorded... I can see CDC not wanting to update the website but not even telling the WHO? Lame...
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Post by MikeM » Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:53 pm

Confirmed case at my son's daycare here in Chenango county NY.
They are not shutting it down, but they are sending kids home if they have the least little sneeze.
The case is not in the news yet, but I'm sure it will lead to all kinds of new panic. Time to get my Pandemic Preps Powerpoint materials together again, and just as I was catching up on the rest of my job.

-Mike
If I had to guess, I'd say that being eXtreme means you're a pussy but hiding it behind enthusiasm.
-Seanbaby

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