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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by absinthe beginner » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:07 am

13th US Virus Case Confirmed In San Diego; China Fires 2 Top Health Officials Over Botched Response

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... er-botched

Hong Kong Coronavirus Expert Warns Outbreak Could Infect "Between 60%-80%" Of Humanity, Causing 51 Million Deaths

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... 0-humanity

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by max v » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:14 am

MPMalloy wrote:
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JayceSlayn wrote:
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Like I said previously: while governments and hospitals can attempt to enforce control on an outbreak (and China is likely one of the countries most capable of pulling this off), ultimately public behavior changes are what will really put a damper on disease spread. While we'd prefer for it not to have to reach panic levels of concern in the public eye, that concern does effectively focus a large portion of the population to alter their routines enough to help prevent further spread.
This is it for anything communicable. There isn't any other way.
Was that double or triple speak... I forget.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

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I got this from the ZS facebook page...so it must be legit right? :clownshoes:

https://www.facebook.com/Zombie-Squad-2 ... oZsOQkGkBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJTDeh88 ... 8yxgNra5qg
I'm not sure what to make of this one:

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by flybynight » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:08 pm

MPMalloy wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:39 pm
raptor wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:23 pm
I got this from the ZS facebook page...so it must be legit right? :clownshoes:

https://www.facebook.com/Zombie-Squad-2 ... oZsOQkGkBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJTDeh88 ... 8yxgNra5qg
I'm not sure what to make of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPw-adeh36w




Moderator Note: I edited the youtube link to not display the video unless it is clicked. You can still view the video.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by max v » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:50 am

flybynight wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:08 pm
MPMalloy wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:39 pm
raptor wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:23 pm
I got this from the ZS facebook page...so it must be legit right? :clownshoes:

https://www.facebook.com/Zombie-Squad-2 ... oZsOQkGkBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJTDeh88 ... 8yxgNra5qg
I'm not sure what to make of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPw-adeh36w


Moderator Note: I edited the youtube link to not display the video unless it is clicked. You can still view the video.
I did this out of respect for the dead and the fact that the dead were children.
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Sinister as it seems, the guy cares enough to straighten out the lil girl's shirt. Could be a way to ration bodybags. If they can fit 3 children in one, they should be able to fit 2 slim adults in one. Or maybe a way to play the numbers?
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by darmstrong » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:00 am

Last night's Situation Report for 2019nCoV. It looks like these are released around 5-6pm Eastern Time.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source ... 2-ncov.pdf
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by 00dlez » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:09 am

max v wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:50 am
flybynight wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:08 pm
MPMalloy wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:39 pm
raptor wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:23 pm
I got this from the ZS facebook page...so it must be legit right? :clownshoes:

https://www.facebook.com/Zombie-Squad-2 ... oZsOQkGkBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJTDeh88 ... 8yxgNra5qg
I'm not sure what to make of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPw-adeh36w

Moderator Note: I edited the youtube link to not display the video unless it is clicked. You can still view the video.
I did this out of respect for the dead and the fact that the dead were children.
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Ho ly shit !
Sinister as it seems, the guy cares enough to straighten out the lil girl's shirt. Could be a way to ration bodybags. If they can fit 3 children in one, they should be able to fit 2 slim adults in one. Or maybe a way to play the numbers?
Or both :/ Chilling to say the least
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by max v » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:59 pm

Chilling indeed and bad news for any parents out there. For some reason I was under the impression that kids are more resilient to this virus then say the elderly.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by MPMalloy » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:34 pm

Folks, it's MP. I fucked up. I have make no excuse. I should have stopped and thought about things & I did not. I want to pass info along, but I need to make some changes in my posting.

I'm Sorry.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by raptor » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:57 pm

MPMalloy wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:34 pm
Folks, it's MP. I fucked up. I have make no excuse. I should have stopped and thought about things & I did not. I want to pass info along, but I need to make some changes in my posting.

I'm Sorry.
If you are talking about the video edit...IMO no apology is needed. The post was well within the rules.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by Evan the Diplomat » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:23 pm

Good evening, Tencent is not $.50 little brother but a Chinese news website. An article from Taiwan, in English, was circulating through the open source analysts at work. It claims that the Tencent website accidentally posted accurate coronavirus numbers before taking them down. They also point out the statistically night impossible trend of the mortality rate being 3.1% over across multiple days of the week.

It shows the infection rate at 154,000 and the death rate at just under 25,000. The article is well reasoned, but I’m always a little suspicious because Taiwan will pretty much take any opportunity to throw shade on the PRC. That said, the PRC is not covered in glory when it comes to revealing uncomfortable facts.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by darmstrong » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:12 pm

Evan the Diplomat wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:23 pm
Good evening, Tencent is not $.50 little brother but a Chinese news website. An article from Taiwan, in English, was circulating through the open source analysts at work. It claims that the Tencent website accidentally posted accurate coronavirus numbers before taking them down. They also point out the statistically night impossible trend of the mortality rate being 3.1% over across multiple days of the week.

It shows the infection rate at 154,000 and the death rate at just under 25,000. The article is well reasoned, but I’m always a little suspicious because Taiwan will pretty much take any opportunity to throw shade on the PRC. That said, the PRC is not covered in glory when it comes to revealing uncomfortable facts.
I shall try and post the link after dinner. But right now I’m driving in the dark and it’s raining. Safety first!
I think getting real infection rates is going to be difficult. The WHO is going to post confirmed cases and there's definitely cases that will not be listed on their numbers. However, it's VERY difficult to determine how many more cases are unreported. I'm slightly skeptical about all the videos of deaths in the streets. The problem is trying to determine fact from propaganda is difficult.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by absinthe beginner » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:58 am

China officials fired as coronavirus deaths surge past 1,300

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/ ... 53493.html

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by max v » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:39 am

MPMalloy wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:34 pm
Folks, it's MP. I fucked up. I have make no excuse. I should have stopped and thought about things & I did not. I want to pass info along, but I need to make some changes in my posting.

I'm Sorry.
No need to apologize for illuminating the truth, raw as it may be sometimes. If anyone's at fault it would be me for speculating.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by flybynight » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:15 am

A second person evacuated from Wuhan, China, to a U.S. Marine base near San Diego has been diagnosed with the new coronavirus, raising the tally of confirmed cases in the United States to 14, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported on Wednesday.





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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by JayceSlayn » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:05 am

darmstrong wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:12 pm
Evan the Diplomat wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:23 pm
Good evening, Tencent is not $.50 little brother but a Chinese news website. An article from Taiwan, in English, was circulating through the open source analysts at work. It claims that the Tencent website accidentally posted accurate coronavirus numbers before taking them down. They also point out the statistically night impossible trend of the mortality rate being 3.1% over across multiple days of the week.

It shows the infection rate at 154,000 and the death rate at just under 25,000. The article is well reasoned, but I’m always a little suspicious because Taiwan will pretty much take any opportunity to throw shade on the PRC. That said, the PRC is not covered in glory when it comes to revealing uncomfortable facts.
I shall try and post the link after dinner. But right now I’m driving in the dark and it’s raining. Safety first!
I think getting real infection rates is going to be difficult. The WHO is going to post confirmed cases and there's definitely cases that will not be listed on their numbers. However, it's VERY difficult to determine how many more cases are unreported. I'm slightly skeptical about all the videos of deaths in the streets. The problem is trying to determine fact from propaganda is difficult.
While I think that publicly the WHO, US CDC, etc. have to tiptoe around the PRC's narrative and desires for the time being (because ultimately they still need China's cooperation to contain an outbreak which nobody wants to spread any further), I have to believe that the PRC is under extreme pressure in private channels to share as truthful of information as they know with coordinating external parties. Perhaps later, once this situation has either concluded, or has somehow blown itself outside of China and into the rest of the world to a significant degree, we may learn from other parties what the real story was. For now, China has the overwhelming majority of cases, and the overwhelming majority of power to contain the outbreak, so the world as a whole needs their help.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by raptor » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:09 am

This is both concerning and in some ways reassuring as well as surprising. The US .mil is prepping for a pandemic. It is surprising because I am not used to seeing common sense preparations like that.

Note the new name COVID19 ... BOLO for use of this term in lieu of coronavirus.
U.S. Northern Command is executing plans to prepare for a potential pandemic of the novel coronavirus, now called COVID19, according to Navy and Marine Corps service-wide messages issued this week.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your ... -pandemic/



Heads up Nebraska! Camp Ashland is setting up to be quarantine site.

https://journalstar.com/news/state-and- ... 72365.html

As for stats from the PRC note the new accounting #s.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/13/coronav ... hubei.html

...and where "errors" are found the PRC will deal with them accordingly...
http://news.trust.org/item/20200213042304-qcdq7


....as will North Korea...
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest ... s-21488604



Finally this is to me the real indication of COVId19's impact on the world thus far.

https://news.yahoo.com/covid-19-causing ... nance.html
Paris (AFP) - Global oil demand will suffer its first quarterly drop in a decade as the COVID-19 virus lashes the economy in China and its impact ripples throughout the world, the IEA said Thursday.

"Global oil demand has been hit hard by the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) and the widespread shutdown of China’s economy," the International Energy Agency said in its latest monthly report.

"Demand is now expected to fall by 435,000 barrels year-on-year in the first quarter of 2020, the first quarterly contraction in more than 10 years" when it dropped during the global economic crisis, it added.

While the IEA still expects demand for oil to grow for this year as the outbreak is contained, it slashed its forecast for the increase in global consumption by nearly a third to 825,000 barrels per day, the smallest increase since 2011.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by darmstrong » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:04 pm

raptor wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:09 am
This is both concerning and in some ways reassuring as well as surprising. The US .mil is prepping for a pandemic. It is surprising because I am not used to seeing common sense preparations like that.
I'm not surprised that the US .mil is prepping for a pandemic. Financial Institutions are mandated to have pandemic policies in place and this was WAY before 2019CoV
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by raptor » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:48 pm

darmstrong wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:04 pm

Financial Institutions are mandated to have pandemic policies in place and this was WAY before 2019CoV
Hmmm... I learned something new. I did not know that.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by MPMalloy » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:47 pm

CDC: Emergency Preparedness & Response & Pandemic Influenza- This is important to know because this is what your gov't is advising & expecting of/from you.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by absinthe beginner » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:56 pm

The Coronavirus Outbreak Just Got Much, Much Worse

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5xj ... much-worse

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by MPMalloy » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:09 am

absinthe beginner wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:56 pm
The Coronavirus Outbreak Just Got Much, Much Worse - https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5xj ... much-worse
Are these numbers showing up anywhere else?

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