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Severe radiation exposure amid blast at Russian missile testing ground

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Re: Severe radiation exposure amid blast at Russian missile testing ground

Post by Evan the Diplomat » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:52 pm

Russia finally admitted to having five technicians die in the explosion. Last year Putin boasted of a cutting edge cruise missile that would have unlimited range.

Nuclear powered cruise missiles were an idea that the U.S. looked at decades ago and realized it was a bad idea.

Jalopnik had a pretty good article about the concept here https://jalopnik.com/the-flying-crowbar ... 1435286216

Local authorities were telling people to add 45 drops of iodine to a glass of water.
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Re: Severe radiation exposure amid blast at Russian missile testing ground

Post by majorhavoc » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:38 am

Evan the Diplomat wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:52 pm
Local authorities were telling people to add 45 drops of iodine to a glass of water.
45? Might be easier to just advise how much water to add to a glass of iodine. Yikes!

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Re: Severe radiation exposure amid blast at Russian missile testing ground

Post by NT2C » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:20 pm

Just came across my newsfeed:
Residents of the village closest to the site of the accidental explosion of a prototype missile that relies on nuclear fuel said they are to be evacuated Wednesday morning for two hours. A special train will be dispatched to Nyonoksa to take them away, according to news organizations in Russia's northern Arkhangelsk region. About 450 people are said to live in the village, which abuts a military testing range. One resident told TV29.ru that at least some of the villagers would walk off into the forest outside the village rather than board the train. The regional governor, Igor Orlov, insisted Tuesday that the move is not actually an evacuation, but "a routine measure," according to the Interfax news agency. The missile blew up Thursday evening, killing five workers from the Federal Nuclear Center in Sarov. American experts, as well as President Trump, have suggested that it was an experimental nuclear-powered cruise missile designated as Skyfall by NATO and as Burevestnik - or Stormy Petrel - by the Russians. A resident of Nyonoksa told ArkhangelskOnline that the village has been evacuated before, presumably because of the hazards of nearby tests or other military activity. Several years ago, the resident said, part of a burning missile fell on a house in the village and set it afire. The website reported that military officials met with the villagers Monday and told them about the brief evacuation. "They said that there were no changes in the radiation background and there was nothing to worry about," said the resident, who asked not to be identified. "And that everything is fine both in our village and there, in the military town. The situation is checked by experts." In Moscow Tuesday, President Vladimir Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said "security is fully ensured" for residents in the region by the relevant government agencies. A short jump in gamma radiation was detected in the city of Severodvinsk immediately following the explosion, about 6 to 16 times the usual background dosage, a government agency called Rosprirodnadzor, or the Natural Resources Management Service, told 29.ru. The nuclear agency, Rosatom, said radiation levels there had briefly spiked at twice the usual dosage. Peskov, in speaking with reporters, declined to offer specifics about the missile that exploded, as reported by Interfax. He did say that Russian officials were not surprised by Trump's tweet declaring that the United States was working on "similar, though more advanced technology." "Our president has repeatedly said that the level of Russian projects is way higher than the level reached by other countries and is quite unique," Peskov said. Putin boasted a year ago about Russia's development of a nuclear-powered cruise missile. If successfully developed, it could in theory fly for many more hours than a conventional missile, following intricate courses as it seeks a target. The United States sought to develop such a missile in the 1950s but dropped the project. A website called Dvina Today reported that on Monday evening 10 workers at the Arkhangelsk Regional Clinical Hospital, who had treated the victims of the explosion, flew to Moscow and were taken to the Federal Medical Biophysical Center. That is also where three nuclear workers who were hurt in the explosion are being treated for burns and other trauma. There was no word on why the Arkhangelsk doctors were taken there as well. Frustration over the lack of information is evident. Nyonoksa residents have said no one has told them precisely why they must evacuate. Even the honors bestowed Monday on the dead nuclear workers seem to rankle some. "Who at the moment is officially recognized as victims and heroes clearly showed in yesterday's comment by representatives of military science: they are the test scientists themselves," 29.ru declared. "The local people, if you read between the lines, are either random outsiders or unnecessary witnesses. In general - sit and do not buzz. And better - sit in silence on the train or even walk in the woods. "Anyway, we wish fellow countrymen-northerners peace in the coming days, peace and health! And we just have to follow the messages of the central media on the Internet."
Normally I would not quote such a large piece but I'm unable to find the exact link this comes from, though there are many similar stories now. Note the bolded part. At least some Russians remember what can happen to Russians who get aboard "special" trains.
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Re: Severe radiation exposure amid blast at Russian missile testing ground

Post by majorhavoc » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:58 pm

NT2C wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:20 pm
Just came across my newsfeed:
Residents of the village closest to the site of the accidental explosion ...
A special train will be dispatched to Nyonoksa to take them away ...
insisted Tuesday that the move is not actually an evacuation, but "a routine measure" ...
"there were no changes in the radiation background and there was nothing to worry about," ...
"everything is fine both in our village and there, in the military town. The situation is checked by experts." ...
"security is fully ensured" for residents in the region by the relevant government agencies."
A short jump in gamma radiation was detected immediately following the explosion...
about 6 to 16 times the usual background dosage ...
declined to offer specifics about the missile that exploded ...
10 workers at the Arkhangelsk Regional Clinical Hospital, who had treated the victims of the explosion, flew to Moscow and were taken to the Federal Medical Biophysical Center ...
There was no word on why the Arkhangelsk doctors were taken there as well.
Nothing to see here. Move along people; go back to your homes. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Perfectly routine. Nothing to worry about.

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Re: Severe radiation exposure amid blast at Russian missile testing ground

Post by Evan the Diplomat » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:41 pm

Open source office posted a Russian YouTubeski video showing four large ambulances allegedly taking radiation victims to the airport.
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Re: Severe radiation exposure amid blast at Russian missile testing ground

Post by absinthe beginner » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:24 am

Norway Detects Radiation Near Russian Border Days After Nuclear-Powered Missile Explodes

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08- ... ed-missile

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Re: Severe radiation exposure amid blast at Russian missile testing ground

Post by Evan the Diplomat » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:13 am

Here is a 20 minute podcast that gives both a play by play of Russia’s changing story of the disaster and the background on why Russia is developing these kinds of weapons.

Oops! http://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/podca ... n.amp.html
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Re: Severe radiation exposure amid blast at Russian missile testing ground

Post by Ellywick » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:28 am

Evan the Diplomat wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:13 am
Here is a 20 minute podcast that gives both a play by play of Russia’s changing story of the disaster and the background on why Russia is developing these kinds of weapons.
Evan...link?
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Re: Severe radiation exposure amid blast at Russian missile testing ground

Post by Evan the Diplomat » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:35 pm

Ellywick wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:28 am
Evan the Diplomat wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:13 am
Here is a 20 minute podcast that gives both a play by play of Russia’s changing story of the disaster and the background on why Russia is developing these kinds of weapons.
Evan...link?
Oops. Link added.
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