How many of you actually?

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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Sckitzo » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:37 am

AZMedic wrote:I combat zombies at work its called dementia and psych.....
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:56 am

Malthus wrote:As has been stated. Zombies are a metaphor for a breakdown of society and rule of law. That said, rage type zombies would be possible, not likely mind you, but possible. Classical "raised from the dead" zombies on the other hand; no. (unless you’re talking supernatural forces, then all bets are off :))
The newer trend in zombies is to have a scientific source, a virus or bacterium. This has many problems. First off, asking a microbiological pathogen to (1) first kill a subject (2) reanimate a subject (3) be able to animate and coordinate bodily functions (Muscle movement, balance, sight, hearing, rudimentary cognitive abilities, etc); is just asking too much of any bacteria or virus. And even if you accept the possibility that such a thing was possible, there is an inherent flaw in the theory.
A dead body, by definition, does not process oxygen. This would cause a breakdown in the Krebs cycle. This is the process by which our bodies create Adenosine-Triphosphate (the muscle activation chemical) and remove Lactic acid (the waste element from this operation). No Kebs cycle, no new Adenosine-Triphosphate. So the body would only be able to access the stored chemical that was in the body at time of death. Without blood flow, and an aerobic process; within probably 15-20 minutes (at best) any zombie would be immobilized, and could only look at you menacingly and think nasty thoughts. :)
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by JojoZS » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:26 am

I see zombies everyday,
Drunks, dopers, idiots, all doing zombie things, staggering into my yard, walking out in front of cars, not using the brain that's currently in their own head.

I see these zombies, I don't even want to believe they could infect me to be one of them by just spitting on me!
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by lunchy » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:49 am

There are drugs to numb all pain, drugs to turn you psychotic (or as we commonly call it- "Stella Artois, s'il vous plait...), drugs to increase appetite, drugs to increase adrenaline, etc..

Who's to say you can't put these all in one happy little cloud and spray the crap out of the neighbouring country with it? 8)
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by JTNieman » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:53 am

I don't believe in the POSSIBILITY of any kind of zombie that's been expressed in media so far.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy shooting one if it crossed my path.

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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by thefirebuilds » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:15 pm

last night it snowed and snowed and snowed. I had to take the truck out to meet a person at my shop around 8, there were literally hordes of people shambling across the streets in dark clothing. None in a hurry. It was seriously creepy.

and here's a friendly tip to my brothers and sisters of a deeper hue... if your face doesn't reflect light how about you wear a jacket that does. Some of ya'll are gonna get runned over.
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Jeriah » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:28 pm

thefirebuilds wrote:and here's a friendly tip to my brothers and sisters of a deeper hue... if your face doesn't reflect light how about you wear a jacket that does. Some of ya'll are gonna get runned over.
This is good advice for people of any skin tone, really. Reflective outerwear is a good idea. (Not that I practice what I preach. I assume that cars are trying to kill me, and that being more visible only makes their job easier.)

On topic: I think that society at large, and this forum as well, has a general "zombies don't exist" bias. Therefore, if something is real, we will call it something other than a zombie.

If 28 Days Later really happened, we'd say, "Those aren't zombies, they just have a rabies-like disease."

If NOTLD really happened, we'd say, "There's got to be a logical explanation..." until we came up with a name other than "zombie" for what it was.

Except for a few noobs who would say "OMG ZEDS!!!"
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by thefirebuilds » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:50 pm

reification is easy. I like to label things that dont think as zombies. Even if someone isn't necessarily "retarded" we apply that label with fluidity.
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by JojoZS » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:37 pm

thefirebuilds wrote:
and here's a friendly tip to my brothers and sisters of a deeper hue... if your face doesn't reflect light how about you wear a jacket that does. Some of ya'll are gonna get runned over.

Black is the color of choice around here, when at night, dress in black pants and a black shirt then walk or ride your bike ON the road. I'm not sure if it's some sort of a suicide mission, or just the "I do I want" mentality. Driving at night is dangerous here, you have to constantly look out for them and don't follow other cars too closely for they may slam on their brakes at any moment.

They have been hit in the past, they will continue to get hit.
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Jeriah » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:40 pm

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thefirebuilds wrote:
and here's a friendly tip to my brothers and sisters of a deeper hue... if your face doesn't reflect light how about you wear a jacket that does. Some of ya'll are gonna get runned over.

Black is the color of choice around here, when at night, dress in black pants and a black shirt then walk or ride your bike ON the road. I'm not sure if it's some sort of a suicide mission, or just the "I do I want" mentality. Driving at night is dangerous here, you have to constantly look out for them and don't follow other cars too closely for they may slam on their brakes at any moment.

They have been hit in the past, they will continue to get hit.
Ideally, a cyclist should have a blinking red light on the rear, and a solid white light at the front. I have a blinking red light on my bike, plus a white light on the front and a red light on the rear of my helmet. This is so people see you (because you're illuminated) and know which way you're going (like a car, white = front and red = rear). I don't know if this is true in all areas but everywhere I've checked, this is required by law and you can be pulled over and ticketed if you don't have these lights installed.

On foot, well, I'm guilty of wearing all black and walking around, but I do remain alert for cars and stay out of the damned road unless I'm in a crosswalk.
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Dead Zed » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:45 pm

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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Lucas_061287 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:24 pm

Honestly, I believe that there will be a virus/bacteria/disease that will cause some sort of "zombie". Hopefully it will be legal to shoot them because I really am looking forward to the zombie apocalypse.
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by therianthrope » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:13 am

For all the nay-sayers out there, a little food for thought.

Cordyceps unilateralis - the Zombie-Ant Fungus
http://www.livescience.com/animals/0908 ... ungus.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCOQ0VU24xw

Certainly this is a far cry from brain-hungry, aggro-dead. But the natural world is capable of truly unbelievable things. And as humans become more and more over-crowded, nature will find new ways to bring balance. Are zombies the most parsimonious answer? Perhaps not, but as we can see, it is not entirely without precedent...

While I don't believe that reanimated corpses are ever going to be reality, the possibility of a mind-altering viral infection is real, especially when things like biological weaponization are considered.

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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Eisenbart » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:13 pm

Real Z ?
No way!

Rage Virus?
Veery unlikely,but not entirely imposible!

Preparing for the worst?
Absolutely!

Having fun with weird thought Experiments about Survival and mad Biology?
Priceless!


Edit:Well yea Coryceps or maybe Fasciola Hepatica....
true they change the behaviour of their Hosts or intermediary Hosts(like Ants),but these are Parasite/Host relations
that need maaany Millenia to devellope.
Even the most stupid Human society would do somethingwould react
to a Problem having that much time.

Crap i say
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Wolfdude87 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:19 pm

No, but I prep for one because if you're ready for a ZPAW you're probably ready for most kinds of PAW.
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Shaper » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:46 pm

Jeriah wrote:
thefirebuilds wrote:and here's a friendly tip to my brothers and sisters of a deeper hue... if your face doesn't reflect light how about you wear a jacket that does. Some of ya'll are gonna get runned over.
This is good advice for people of any skin tone, really. Reflective outerwear is a good idea. (Not that I practice what I preach. I assume that cars are trying to kill me, and that being more visible only makes their job easier.)

On topic: I think that society at large, and this forum as well, has a general "zombies don't exist" bias. Therefore, if something is real, we will call it something other than a zombie.

If 28 Days Later really happened, we'd say, "Those aren't zombies, they just have a rabies-like disease."

If NOTLD really happened, we'd say, "There's got to be a logical explanation..." until we came up with a name other than "zombie" for what it was.

Except for a few noobs who would say "OMG ZEDS!!!"
If "zombies" did arise, I would think it would most likely happen due to a mutated form of rabies or something similar. Something that would cause people lose inhibition and rational thought while allowing the lower brain to still function relatively as normal but nothing to keep our animalistic nature in check.

It would have to be something that has a high viral efficiency (easy and fast to spread, few early symptoms, etc.) something without a known cure, along with a slow and/or low mortality efficiency (doesn't kill it's host outright) so that it could continue to spread.

It certainly could happen, albeit not very probable. I bet in the past when folks didn't know what rabies was, they probably thought along the lines of the infected individual being demonically possessed, or somewhat "zombie-like". Imagine that in a super-concentrated pandemic form, and you would probably get pretty close to a real life zombie outbreak.
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by SixStringRazor » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:01 am

Ryanlos wrote: 1: Its usually an infection, dont get bit.
2: Aim for the head
3: Once they go down as a human, they come back zombie.

Yeah, but what if the "real" zombies have to be shot in the groin or something instead of the head. I wonder how long it would take people to figure it out.

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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by bonanacrom » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:36 am

If there's any way possible for it to be created then you can bet our government is working to bring it to us.
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^Agreed.

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Re: How many of you actually?

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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Urban Core » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:19 am

Dead Zed wrote:
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FanaticalModerate wrote:No.
But it's a pleasant mental challenge for my inner mall-ninja.
I wish for zombies everyday just so I don't have to go to work
^that^

No I don't believe in zombies.
I do believe that bad things happen.
Luck favors the prepared.

Being a prepper I've helped lots of people in lots of situations simply because I carry stuff with me that most people don't.

I recall a T-shirt I saw once that said. "The hardest part about a zombie apocalypse would be pretending I am not enjoying myself."

Personally, I would say +1 on the rabies/rage types. It's POSSIBLE, unlikely, but possible.

Hell, who is to say it has not ALREADY happened in some places and we just don't know about it. Gotta love press blackouts.
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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by Cpt. MelonBuster » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:30 pm

I just saw "Quarantine" tonight. I shit my pants, then thought of this thread. This is what I believe any zombie type virus would be like, if any.

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Re: How many of you actually?

Post by valadimir » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:29 am

you figure some country(usa,russia,china)would accidently fabricate something like that...then it would eventually get out...do i belive zombies could become real...no do i belive a goverment would try it Yes

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