Best ultralight Warm-Weather Sleeping Bag

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Best ultralight Warm-Weather Sleeping Bag

Post by MoHAlixPr » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:56 am

Hello all, I'm looking for a sleeping bag that I can use from 50+ temperatures that'd be super-compact able for backpacking and bugging out. Can anyone give me some recommendations?

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Post by Woods Walker » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:03 am

Do you prefer down or synthetic?
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Post by JohnnyRico » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:29 am

Snugpak Jungle Bag.

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Post by 74 or more » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:55 am

arrigoni wrote:Snugpak Jungle Bag.
Definitely ^this^

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Re: Best ultralight Warm-Weather Sleeping Bag

Post by Jamie » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:03 am

Just to offer an alternate suggestion...

Above 50, I'd consider using a fleece and/or silk sleepsack, in combination with fleece hat/gloves/socks...if you're out of the wind, and not wet, you should be able to stay warm and comfy with a minimal sleep system at those temps...

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Post by aloharover » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:48 pm

Goretex bivy sack from the military sleep system and a poncho liner
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Re: Best ultralight Warm-Weather Sleeping Bag

Post by Neddog » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:06 pm

I like the Snugpak and Recon bags mentioned (I particularly like the bug net included with the Recon), but I usually just get anything I can find locally with Liteloft. They're all just as warm and lightweight. Currently I have a Roma Hotcore for spring/fall weight (0ºC) and a Woods for winter weight (-20ºC). I used to have a 0ºC Woods bag like my current Roma one, probably from the same outfitter as my warmer Woods bag. The 0ºC bags are the really compact ones I throw right into my pack and keep with me everywhere. The heavier one I pack outside the pack only on cold days. The lightweight one still stays in the bag even when I bring the winter one with me, as winters here are far colder than -20ºC (but warmer bags are difficult to find in a really compact insulation like Liteloft).

So if you don't mind mail order, then something like the Snugpak or Recon would probably be my first choice, but personally I'd just look in your local outfitter first and find their best lightweight insulation. Compare prices, and see if it's really worth the wait for you to order online. My Roma Hotcore and Woods bags are every bit as compact as the Recon and Snugpak bags listed here, but what brand you can find locally is completely random depending on where you are. There are many more good sleeping bag manufacturers operating than we know of or could possibly keep track of.

Generally bags in the 0ºC range will have no banana hoods (my Roma has a fabric hood just to keep your head off the ground), but heavier bags like the -20ºC or -30ºC bags will come with a banana hood. The hood makes a big difference in cold temperature comfort, though it also adds to the size of the bag. It's quite a jump going from an ultra-light non-hooded version to a warm hooded version.
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Re: Best ultralight Warm-Weather Sleeping Bag

Post by MoHAlixPr » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:10 pm

What are the pros/cons of down vs synthetic?

Honestly what I'm mostly going to be using this for travel backpacking in the middle of the summer where temps will be 80-100 during the day, so I'm not too concerned about temps anywhere below 50 degrees. I really like the snugpak especially because of the bug net (also useful for summer.)

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Post by stabnshoot » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:43 pm

This thread raises an interesting dilemma I've come across on these and other forums. Most members live in colder climates, and it's rather funny to have them suggest to someone on the west coast or other areas of the world that have warm climates, that they should be packing a huge sleeping bag rated for near or below zero temperatures, heavy snow jackets, extremely wet and damp condition fire starting kits, etc.

Then again I'm sure we're not faultless considering we don't usually mention what climate we're based in.

Back on topic though, I'm glad I saw this thread, I'll probably end up picking up a Snugpak Jungle Bag for my own load out. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Re: Best ultralight Warm-Weather Sleeping Bag

Post by MoHAlixPr » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:24 am

Where I live it's a high of 75 at the lowest in the winter. :D

Ended up ordering a Jungle Bag. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Post by Omega Dog » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:04 am

I live in South Texas, and purchased a great warm weather bag, available at Cabela.com. The Eureka Cheyenne is rated at 40+ degrees and compresses smaller than an MRE. For additional warmth, add a wool or fleece blanket and your good to go.

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Post by ninja-elbow » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:30 pm

MoHAlixPr wrote:What are the pros/cons of down vs synthetic?

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Down Cons:
expensive
when it gets wet it loses much of it's insulation value - it needs to stay dry
you can dry it but that is hard to do without being in good conditions
Down Pros:
It is really light and compactable
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Post by Woods Walker » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:10 pm

MoHAlixPr wrote:What are the pros/cons of down vs synthetic?

Honestly what I'm mostly going to be using this for travel backpacking in the middle of the summer where temps will be 80-100 during the day, so I'm not too concerned about temps anywhere below 50 degrees. I really like the snugpak especially because of the bug net (also useful for summer.)
Down.

Pros.

1. Compresses smaller.
2. Able to retain loft better after longer term compression.
3. Best temp rating to weight ratio going IMO.
4. Down feels more comfortable than most synthetics. This one is hard to explain as the insulation is contained within the shell but it just feels better.

Cons.

1. More expensive.
2. Can leak out of a sleeping bag if there are any holes.
3. Don't get it down wet. This is the biggest con.

Synthetic.

Pros.

1. Cheaper.
2. Will still provide some insulation when wet.
3. The insulation won't leak out of the bag if damaged.

Cons.

1. Down compresses better and is more UL.
2. Not as comfortable as down.
3. Down is warmer. I think this is because of the better loft.
4. Longer term compression may reduce the loft.
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Post by MoHAlixPr » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:22 pm

So for temps above 50, down isn't as much of an issue then?

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Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:28 pm

stabnshoot wrote:This thread raises an interesting dilemma I've come across on these and other forums. Most members live in colder climates, and it's rather funny to have them suggest to someone on the west coast or other areas of the world that have warm climates, that they should be packing a huge sleeping bag rated for near or below zero temperatures, heavy snow jackets, extremely wet and damp condition fire starting kits, etc.

Then again I'm sure we're not faultless considering we don't usually mention what climate we're based in.

Back on topic though, I'm glad I saw this thread, I'll probably end up picking up a Snugpak Jungle Bag for my own load out. Thanks for the recommendation.
Things to remember: wind makes it colder. Night makes it colder. Much colder. The lows you see reported are almost never the night time lows. Still, posting your climate is important. Deserts get much colder and much windier at night than the on-average cooler piedmont areas more southern woodlands.
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Post by Woods Walker » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:33 pm

MoHAlixPr wrote:So for temps above 50, down isn't as much of an issue then?
That depends. The pros and con are still the same. A warm weather down bag will still compress better and be more UL than a similar rated synthetic bag. For preps in general I prefer synthetic as it can deal with being wet better.
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Post by Bender711 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:16 pm

I'm gonna throw in another vote for the sungpak jungle bag. Although at those temps a poncho liner has worked fine for me. The jungle bag also makes a nice overbag for my winter bag on those extra cold nights.

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Post by Neddog » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:44 pm

MoHAlixPr wrote:Where I live it's a high of 75 at the lowest in the winter. :D
Dude, I wouldn't even wear a long-sleeved shirt in that weather, nevermind needing a sleeping bag. But you see, temperature is totally relative. 75 degrees to you probably feels like 10 degrees to me. When I lived in Key West (I was there on and off for about 5 years), we once had a severe storm come through that brought the temperatures down to an appalling 65 degrees. They were finding emergency shelter for all the homeless people so they don't freeze to death, while I was still hanging around Mallory Square docks in nothing but shorts, with no shirt or shoes (not because I was too poor to own these things, lol). 75 degrees is room temperature. As cold as it gets for you in the winter is a warm summer day up here and should be accompanied by lemonade and a sun hat.

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Re: Best ultralight Warm-Weather Sleeping Bag

Post by MoHAlixPr » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:54 am

Should've rephrased that, 75 in the day with around 50 at night. During the summer though it's in the 80s at night. But yeah I understand, there are some people I know in my time that have quite literally never seen snow in their life.

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Post by sporkticus » Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:53 pm

I like my frog sack. http://www.speerhammocks.com/Products/FrogSac.htm I've used it down to 45 degrees, and it was fine, and I've had it for a while.

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Post by aloharover » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:17 am

Doc Torr wrote: Things to remember: wind makes it colder. Night makes it colder. Much colder. The lows you see reported are almost never the night time lows. .
That must be specific to your local news channel.
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Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:21 am

aloharover wrote:
Doc Torr wrote: Things to remember: wind makes it colder. Night makes it colder. Much colder. The lows you see reported are almost never the night time lows. .
That must be specific to your local news channel.
Most channels report daytime highs and lows, unless specifically stated otherwise. YMMV.
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Post by Deenie7 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:49 am

Yeah, it must vary - here in Chicago (and in the other Midwestern cities I've lived in), the overall low temperature is always the low that's reported. It may not always be the middle of the night when it hits that low, but they don't limit their estimates to daytime/daylight hours.

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