Vestpack concept

[ghost792]

Doesn't the newer FLC connect to the assault pack in this way?

[stabnshoot]

I have a CamelBak hydration vest to which I "dock and lock" my Kifaru "E&E" pack . 4 fastex buckles and it's on or off.

How is the weight distribution with it? This is pretty much exactly what I'm trying to do, I figure if I need to ditch a pack it's 4 easy to release buckles and it's on the ground, should I come back for it I'm obviously not too concerned about being shot or in any sort of danger so even if it's a bit tough to get reattached to the vest, it's not a worry.

[Razor]

Doesn't the newer FLC connect to the assault pack in this way?

Not at least not the new ones they sent us over to the Stan with. But there could bet a newer one that does, I know I was quite butt hurt when the unit replacing mine had all kinds of cool new issued gear that I would have killed for.

I do how ever know that some of the "high speed" medic load outs I've seen do have some type of buckle system in place. Personally I don't like them. I would rather undo one buckle going across my sternum and maybe one going around my waist (Most guys don't use that one because it can get tangled and make your pack to hard to get off quick, I tend to like it but it really does depend on the mission and how heavy my load out is.) while pulling my straps off quickly.

It's also important to note that a "Load Bearing Vest" which is all these new high speed vests are is designed to carry a load on your chest not an assault pack on your back.

Am I saying it won't work or that it's a bad idea. No not at all I am only saying that you need to make sure you test the hell out of it and potentially change the vest around a little bit to make it fit you better with the added weight. If you end up needing some thing like this there is a good chance that you will need it for a good amount of time and what feels good and comfortable for 10 min starts to hurt like hell after 2-3 hours over bad terrain.

[ghost792]

I looked at one of the MOLLE II manuals the other day, and it sure seems like the Assault pack was able to connect to the FLC. Then, I looked at some photos of the Assault pack and it has its own shoulder straps and waist belt. I have to admit that I'm really confused about how these two pieces interact.

I agree that I'm not sure that having an LBV/FLC take the place of shoulder straps for a pack is a good idea.

[Razor]

I looked at one of the MOLLE II manuals the other day, and it sure seems like the Assault pack was able to connect to the FLC. Then, I looked at some photos of the Assault pack and it has its own shoulder straps and waist belt. I have to admit that I'm really confused about how these two pieces interact.

I agree that I'm not sure that having an LBV/FLC take the place of shoulder straps for a pack is a good idea.

I think I know what your talking about that is so the assault pack can connect to the ruck sack while being worn by the user. When it all first came out we all thought it was shit hot and the coolest idea ever until we wore the damn things and the ruck yanked on your shoulders in a very painful way do to the center of gravity being displaced by the assault pack.

Like I said though I do know some of the medic stuff does link in to the FLC like is being described. One thing to keep in mind though is that these are very mission specific. For example in my assault pack this year I carried 1 MRE, 6 water bottles, 6 extra loaded M4 mags, 1 200rd drum of SAW ammo, 2 slap flairs, 1 red smoke grenade and 2 extra frags. We're talking about 20-40 pounds of gear depending on if I dropped some weight or some such.

Now a STOMP medic bag which is what most of my medics did use, and is made so it can hook into your FLC (Tough I've never seen it used this way) contains all types of medical supplies needed to keep some one alive till better help can arrive how ever it is important to note that a fully loaded bag according to manufactured specs only weighs 18lbs and most medics will drop even more weight by getting rid of redundant items or things they won't need based on the TTPs of the area.


So again is it a bad idea to strap a bag to your FLC maybe yes maybe no, but it is a bad idea to stick a heavy bag on your FLC because that isn't what they are designed to do.

[jamoni]

May I suggest making or buying a small frame? The frame will let you distribute the weight to a hip belt instead of the shoulders, so the vest just acts to balance the load, not support it. It will also let you stand the load off from your back, helping with the sweat issues. I built this as my heavy winter hauler, and it does the job.
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=89178&p=1983348&hilit=tactical+vest+frame+pack#p1983348

[Razor]

That good sir is one pimp set up. And a very innovative way to overcome the issues with linking a bag and vest together.