Let's give the judges more problems, SPRING MBO!!!

[corrsk]

I have a suggestion. What about a team bug out. The goal of this group is to teach and learn and experiment with our gear. How about teaming up with someone we have never camped with before. Hypothetically our BOBs would be somewhat similar but different enough to teach each other what works and what doesnt. Perhaps learn to combine different ideas and plans for something better suited.

The only 2 rules would be dont tell each other what your going to bring and your partner(s) have to be a person you have never MBO with before.

However for those who do not have a partner then solo entries would be accepted.

This could be a great learning experience for all. It would be helpful to find out where we fall short and where someone else can pick up the slack.

The biggest benefit. Make a new like minded friend.

[KnightoftheRoc]

I have a suggestion. What about a team bug out. The goal of this group is to teach and learn and experiment with our gear. How about teaming up with someone we have never camped with before. Hypothetically our BOBs would be somewhat similar but different enough to teach each other what works and what doesnt. Perhaps learn to combine different ideas and plans for something better suited.

The only 2 rules would be dont tell each other what your going to bring and your partner(s) have to be a person you have never MBO with before.

However for those who do not have a partner then solo entries would be accepted.

This could be a great learning experience for all. It would be helpful to find out where we fall short and where someone else can pick up the slack.

The biggest benefit. Make a new like minded friend.

I like this- all of it. It's not what I'M planning in, exactly, but if it all works out, I'll get to do some of this while I'm at it.

[Sāj]

A thought I had and sorry if this has been brought up in the past, but what if we did a requirement for anyone using vehicles to drive to a BOL, can only go say half way to their location and then have to give up the vehicle to simulate unforeseen possible break downs or road blocks and anything. I mean anyone can plan a bug out to a BOL 100 miles away in a vehicle, drive it like normal and basically enjoy a weekend to themselves, but the real test would be improvising when your initial plan goes down the drain.

[shulatt]

Another, similar option... "Newbie Bug-out"
Bring a first-timer (or otherwise inexperienced) with you!
They say the best way to learn is to teach, so find someone with limited experience and show 'em how it's done. Could be a kid, spouse/SO, friend, coworker, etc.
Make it a FUN learning experience for them.
Thoughts?

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[TheLastOne]

I'd say the suggestions above fit into the 'do whatever the f you want' category. Just doo eet. Want to be scout master? Do it. Want to be solo? Do it. Want to have an item removed/broken? Do it. Want to do 2 days on your moped or 10 in your SUV? Do it!

But how do we then judge each contestant against the other? (Is anybody really in this to win anything or aren't we all just here for the fun/learning??)
Maybe criteria as general as food, shelter, water. How did you procure each? What skills/planning/execution were required to do each? Say Woods had to gas up the jeep, stop at the happy meal, and cruise over to the holiday inn. With the right pics and story telling about whatever scenario, this could be just as viable of KnightoftheRock's buggin out in his woolies and cloak, chasing down a rabbit with his bare hands, grinding flour out of an impromptu water mill he builds by a stream he's drinking out of, and building a kick ass wooden shelter with a hatchet. Both require some skill (have you sat through a drive through lately or tried checking in without a reservation??? ) and with good story telling and pics, I think either could win.

As constant spectator, I'd be interested to see what everyone comes up with for their own bug out. Want to win? Be creative and do your own damn thing. KOR's medieval bugout sounds interesting as hell to me (to read about, no way in hell I'm doing it ) Hell, maybe even I can crank something out this time around if $/job schedule allows!

I vote for the freedom of do what you want as long as you follow the rule of food/water/shelter

[Flying Lead]

I was fired up and ready until it turned off hot. Eighty two is not BO weather, unless the S truly does HTF.

[mmaiolo81]

are we making headway with contest?

[KnightoftheRoc]

Waiting on an official entries page- so far as I know, this one's just for discussion. Sort of a planning on making plans to have plans thread.

[mmaiolo81]

Waiting on an official entries page- so far as I know, this one's just for discussion. Sort of a planning on making plans to have plans thread.

Good times, I'm anxiously waiting lol

[xxxDarksidexxx]

history dictates that the winners of the previous contest have the first shot at getting this thing started and judged. i can send out PM's to them to see if they have any intrest.

i think spring is here, so we should think about getting this thing started. i have just a few minor suggestions ill post up in the AM.

[Woods Walker]

I would rather have a summer contest and skip spring as this winter seemed almost like spring but the mob rules.

[xxxDarksidexxx]

works for me, but camping in summer in FL pretty much sucks ass with the humidity...

guess ill just have to build a portable air conditioner to take along with me, or rent an RV...

[Takaaco78]

took to page 3 to stumble accross this thread.

The winter bug out was pretty much do anything you want, but dont die. i like the idea of having clear cut rules (like the 10 items minimal contest). the only bad thing is most of the entries end up almost the same, but its easier to judge.

Im still thinking of the $50 bugout where you walk into a store with $50 and use what you bought to bugout for a few nights.

But i agree spring has allready begun, a summer contest would give us more time to discuss and plan.

[Woods Walker]

I would vote for scurvy to run the summer contest. He has the skillz, has placed in multiple ZS contests and participates in the forums.

[quazi]

A MBO during break-up? That would be ... interesting.

[scurvy]

I would vote for scurvy to run the summer contest.

I'd be more than happy to, I'd definitely need some help, some judges, some prizes and an idea of a timeline everyone agrees apon.

as for rules; I've always been impressed with the skills and techniques you folks come up with, I don't know about limiting gear or starting over with all new gear, I'd rather see what you can do with what you have ( as in use EVERYTHING you bring or explain/show why you brought it )

IDk... I'm a fan of the 'keep it simple', if you wanna bug out to your back yard and catch the family dog with a cardboard box dead fall..... I think that would be pretty cool too...

anyway... there's my 'blah-blah', let me know.

[mmaiolo81]

Im just ready to have another reason to tell the wife I need to hide in the woods for a few days... you guys get a timeline and rules together and I'm in...

[moab]

"I'd rather see what you can do with what you have ( as in use EVERYTHING you bring or explain/show why you brought it"

I like this a lot. Photograph your BOB/INCH with all it's contents. Then list everything that you used and how. So you can see just what is working and what is not. Even though I carry an INCH. And some of my items would not be used until many days into my journey. I would still like to see what works and what doesn't. What I used and what I didn't. What I used that sucked. What I used that kicked ass - as I thought it would. What I didn't bring that I wish I had. Etc. Etc.

Base the contest simply on who used - as much of what they had - the best. With the least amount of useless items. In other words give credit to the persons who actually used - all three of their packed fire lighting systems, all of their water filtration/purification systems, all of their shelter systems, all of their cold weather gear (if they hauled it), etc. etc. And subtract credit for useless items. items that weren't really needed or items that they should have packed and didn't.

This of course will have to be on the honor system to some extent. Though pictures would help. You should give a merit award to the person with the most amount of fail in their gear though.

[mmaiolo81]

"I'd rather see what you can do with what you have ( as in use EVERYTHING you bring or explain/show why you brought it"

I like this a lot. Photograph your BOB/INCH with all it's contents. Then list everything that you used and how. So you can see just what is working and what is not. Even though I carry an INCH. And some of my items would not be used until many days into my journey. I would still like to see what works and what doesn't. What I used and what I didn't. What I used that sucked. What I used that kicked ass - as I thought it would. What I didn't bring that I wish I had. Etc. Etc.

Base the contest simply on who used - as much of what they had - the best. With the least amount of useless items. In other words give credit to the persons who actually used - all three of their packed fire lighting systems, all of their water filtration/purification systems, all of their shelter systems, all of their cold weather gear (if they hauled it), etc. etc. And subtract credit for useless items. items that weren't really needed or items that they should have packed and didn't.

This of course will have to be on the honor system to some extent. Though pictures would help. You should give a merit award to the person with the most amount of fail in their gear though.

You could have 2 entries one with kit loadout before taking off then the actaul entry with kit items in use.. pictures I mean...

[Takaaco78]

you guys don't have to have an official contest. you can just have a little something to hold you over till the Summer contest, where the prize is just bragging rights.

[KnightoftheRoc]

"I'd rather see what you can do with what you have ( as in use EVERYTHING you bring or explain/show why you brought it"

I like this a lot. Photograph your BOB/INCH with all it's contents. Then list everything that you used and how. So you can see just what is working and what is not. Even though I carry an INCH. And some of my items would not be used until many days into my journey. I would still like to see what works and what doesn't. What I used and what I didn't. What I used that sucked. What I used that kicked ass - as I thought it would. What I didn't bring that I wish I had. Etc. Etc.

Base the contest simply on who used - as much of what they had - the best. With the least amount of useless items. In other words give credit to the persons who actually used - all three of their packed fire lighting systems, all of their water filtration/purification systems, all of their shelter systems, all of their cold weather gear (if they hauled it), etc. etc. And subtract credit for useless items. items that weren't really needed or items that they should have packed and didn't.

This of course will have to be on the honor system to some extent. Though pictures would help. You should give a merit award to the person with the most amount of fail in their gear though.

Since dying disqualifies an entry, I would think that getting home alive to tell the 'tale of fail' would be prize enough!

[xxxDarksidexxx]

you guys don't have to have an official contest. you can just have a little something to hold you over till the Summer contest, where the prize is just bragging rights.

heres and idea... just get out for the hell of it. a contest is not needed to get out into the woods, play with some gear, and practice some skills. a crazy idea i know....

[moab]

"I'd rather see what you can do with what you have ( as in use EVERYTHING you bring or explain/show why you brought it"

I like this a lot. Photograph your BOB/INCH with all it's contents. Then list everything that you used and how. So you can see just what is working and what is not. Even though I carry an INCH. And some of my items would not be used until many days into my journey. I would still like to see what works and what doesn't. What I used and what I didn't. What I used that sucked. What I used that kicked ass - as I thought it would. What I didn't bring that I wish I had. Etc. Etc.

Base the contest simply on who used - as much of what they had - the best. With the least amount of useless items. In other words give credit to the persons who actually used - all three of their packed fire lighting systems, all of their water filtration/purification systems, all of their shelter systems, all of their cold weather gear (if they hauled it), etc. etc. And subtract credit for useless items. items that weren't really needed or items that they should have packed and didn't.

This of course will have to be on the honor system to some extent. Though pictures would help. You should give a merit award to the person with the most amount of fail in their gear though.

Since dying disqualifies an entry, I would think that getting home alive to tell the 'tale of fail' would be prize enough!

My 15 knives and super emergency blanket shelter didn't work for shit! I was going to chase down a deer and gut it with my Fantasia Tanto #23! But I couldn't get the deer to hold still long enough.

So we went to Happy Burger for a Fruit Shake and a French dip.

I want my merit badge damnit!