Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB UPDATED 3/7/12

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Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB UPDATED 3/7/12

Postby Mister Dark » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:23 pm

EDIT: totally different GHB kit finally posted a little down on this thread, or just click HERE to jump down.



(This is the old kit)
In preparation of the GHB contest, I decided to finally go thru and catalog all the junk in my kit. I travel a LOT for work, so for me a Get-Home-Bag may have to carry me a lot farther than a couple of miles. I am an avid hiker, and the requirements for a weekend backpacking kit were essentially the same as for my GHB, so why not just make one bag for both tasks?

In all fairness, this is a warm weather / 3-season kit. There simply is no way I could pack the heavier sleeping gear, the coldweather layers, and all that, in a 20# pack. In cold weather, I switch to a 55L pack, and the total weight goes up to around 30#. Still not bad for a 3-4 day pack, but way over the target weight of the september contest... When I travel WAAAAY out of town, I usually pack my full size Bug Out Bag, which has supplies for a very extended walk home. But that is for another post.

Any and all comments and criticisms are greatly appreciated. Anything I can do to improve this kit, let me know. Thanks for looking!

And now, the gear.



Pack:

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Vaude "Cross Ultralight Comfort" pack. 35L capacity, it is comfortable to about 20-25 pounds carried. I removed the semi-useless hipbelt and replaced it with a Camelbak Delaney waistpack. While it is just as flimsy as the original waistbelt, this does give me a 24oz water bottle and a couple of pouches I can reach while moving. I also took the framesheet out of the pack, and let the thermarest do the job.

Shelter:
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Etowah 8x10 silnylon tarp. Only 13 oz. Love this thing. Big enough to set up a bunch of ways depending on need, small enough to pack down really tight. I thought about a 12x10, but for now, this one is working just fine. I also have 4 MSR lightweight tent stakes in the stuff sack.

Grand Trunk lightweight hammock. No bug net, but if you pick your camp location well, and don't mind loading up on DEET before turning in for the night, it's no problem even in the Southeast.

50' of 8 mm rope. Heavy duty enough for pretty much any task I can think of, lightweight enough for this kit. Used for my ridgeline and for the hammock, and whatever else I can think of. Rated at 14 kN. Hope thats strong enough for a tarp... :)

100' of black 550 paracord.

2 - 4' climbing slings used as treehuggers, also good as expedient rope/replacement pack straps. Total weight of the two slings less than 5 ounces.

2 carabiners. I am getting away from using these, as my knottology improves. But they do make things quick and easy, especially on a cold, rainy evening. So they stay for now. And they do have other uses.

Note: Yes, I could use the straps to make a swiss seat, and the rope and the carabiners to make short descents, if I absolutely had to. I prefer using "real" gear, but I know it could be done. As a last resort. In an Emergency. But yea.


Sleep system and clothing:
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Fleece sleeping bag. I sleep comfortably with this down in the 50's. Lots of nights, I just use this as a lightweight quilt, but it can zip up and give me a bit more warmth.

Thermarest Z-lite pad, cut down to 40". 8 oz

AMK emergency bivy bag. Combined with the fleece bag, I am good down to the mid 30s as long as I can keep the wind off me.

Waterproof bag with socks, underwear, shirt. Just enough for one baselayer changeout. In winter, this bag has a lot more stuff. (Note: Being waterproof, The bag can STORE water as well as it keeps it out. Just something to keep in mind)

Marmot precip rain jacket and pants. I figure if it is bad enough that I have to Get Home Now/Get Away Now, I may want to keep moving even if the weather gets bad. A poncho isn't so useful in a windy rainstorm, and in any event you have to be careful about ripping the nylon on branches or other obstacles. Although heavier than a silnylon poncho, this is far heavier duty, and is another layer of clothing as well. If I am active, these can easily replace an outer layer down into the high 30s.


Cook kit and food:
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For this kit, I went with a lightweight folding stove and Esbit tabs. Very low-profile fire source for preparing a meal or purifying water. I normally use a campfire, but for those times when it would be impractical (ever try to build a campfire under a silnylon tarp in a bad rainstorm? It will end badly, trust me) or simply more advantageous to remain low-pro, this is a good backup. A snow*peak 600ml Ti cup, MSR folding spork and Sea-to-Summit collapsible cup finish up the cook kit.

Since this is only meant as an overnight / short weekend bag, my food selection is a little limited. 2 MH meals, a couple of prepackaged sides, some oatmeal, some olive oil, and honey. Also several Ramen and Pizza Hut seasoning packs, and Starbucks VIA coffee packs! (LOVE THESE!)

Just over 3000 calories, (not counting the Clif bar/gelshots) enough to keep me from falling over for two days, 3 if I stretch it. I also have a hobo fishing kit and some snare wire in my pack, so if the opportunity rises, I could supplement my supplies with "the catch of the day", if I am lucky.

Sharp bits:
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Fallkniven F1. The F1 is as close to a perfect compromise for woodscrafting and survival as I have found. The VG10 stainless steel holds up very well, and the size is just right for camp chores and fire prep.

Cegga small forest axe. Custom scandanavian axe. The ease with which wood can be prepped for the fire, or for shelter, makes it totally worth the slight weight penalty. (it has a 15 inch handle, and weighs 1# 8oz)


First Aid kit.
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I have geared this more for hiking emergencies, such as sprains, bites, and stings. It isnt a STOMP II, but it is better than an off-the-shelf hikers kit. A writeup and discussion can be found HERE


Miscellaneous stuff:
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Brunton 10x-30x monocular. Lightweight. Fairly useful. (hey, it was $15, it ain't no Leopold, but it may help me see what I am getting into)

Everlight solar headlamp and charging station. Did a quick writeup HERE. Incredibly useful piece of kit, lets me keep my electronic toys all charged up. Unless we get hit with an EMP burst, in which case all bets are off anyway.

Contractors 55 gallon garbage bag.

Platypus 1Liter water bag.

Aquapur iodine tablets and coffee filter setup

Fire kit with bic lighter, pj/cotton balls. Yes, I have a couple of LMF firesteels, but the lighter = easy. And in a survival situation, easy is good

Cotton bandanna. One million uses. It gets used all the time.

Eton FR-160 AM/FM/Weatherband crank radio. Also can charge via the usb port. (usb cable in the bag is for my Blackberry. Yes,it works!)

Fenix LD20 flashlight. Blindingly bright, multimode, runs happily on rechargeable AA batteries.

Hobo fishing kit. Couple of different hooks, bobber, a few weights, probably 200' of line. The fishing line can also be used to make small snares, by the way.

Clif gel shots and energy bars.

Silva compass. Always good to have one on hand, and Know How To Use It!



Misc stuff #2:
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Small prybar. Could come in handy if I have to get out of an urban environment. Also it is quite useful in the bush, as a small entrenching tool, stake puller, wedge for splitting wood, and so forth. Couple of ounces. Worth it.

bug spray, sunscreen. Keep these on the waistbelt, nothing like being sunburned and assaulted by skeeters to make your bug out fun...

25 rounds Corbon JHP for my handgun.

N95 mask. Single use mask, but could come in handy.

Work gloves.


My EDC
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I should mention my edc kit. This is the stuff that rides in my pocket all the time, so it will by default go with me on a GetHome/GetOut run. I use the Gerber tool pouch to carry the two spare mags for my Taurus 709 Slim 9mm pistol. The Crossbreed Supertuck is the best holster I have ever used, it just disappears. Leatherman Skeletool. Nova single AA flashlight. And my "Survival keychain", with Spyderco Dragonfly, LMF firesteel, and Streamlight Nano flashlight.


TOTAL WEIGHT:
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19 pounds 13 ounces. Whew, that was close! (does not include water or my EDC stuff. Everything else is in the pack and ready to go. With 2 liters of water packed, it comes in at 24 pounds 7oz. Not too bad, I suppose.

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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby TacAir » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:55 pm

Very well done!
Obvious some good planning, well thought out and you have explained the 'why' of each item, thanks.

As for me. I would suggest -

Lose the axe. Use the weight for grub. That's just me.

TP - or do the baby wipes fill that bill?

A hat or wool watchcap.

A few more esbit tabs?

Some tea or drink mix - other than coffee. I carry Tasters Choice, good stuff, good price. But I also carry some CrystalLite packets to help the treated water 'taste better'.

Also, a smaller Am/Fm radio - again, a weight thing. Consider a Sangean DT210 - it is smaller, runs from AAA and the earbuds double an an antenna. I loved mine to death. (Other models offer Am/Fm/Tv/Wx band.)
Now I carry a ICom R5.

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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby Mister Dark » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:16 pm

TacAir wrote:Very well done!
Obvious some good planning, well thought out and you have explained the 'why' of each item, thanks.

'preciate it.

As for me. I would suggest -

Lose the axe. Use the weight for grub. That's just me.

For me, the axe is a real energy saver. Preparing firewood, building shelter, everything is easier with the axe. Also, if I ditched the axe, I would probably wind up with a much larger knife to baton and prep, negating most of the weight savings. For me, for now, I'll keep the axe.

TP - or do the baby wipes fill that bill?

Yep, multipurpose. Cleanup after a long hike, as well as the critical "doing paperwork"

A hat or wool watchcap.

Heh, caught me. My baseball cap was on my head as I took the pics and as I type this. I guess it is more of my "EDC", since I wear it pretty much all the time.

A few more esbit tabs?

The esbit is really my backup for when a campfire wont work, but I do agree it wouldnt hurt to have a few more.

Some tea or drink mix - other than coffee. I carry Tasters Choice, good stuff, good price. But I also carry some CrystalLite packets to help the treated water 'taste better'.

Agreed. I will add some G2 flavoring or similar.

Also, a smaller Am/Fm radio - again, a weight thing. Consider a Sangean DT210 - it is smaller, runs from AAA and the earbuds double an an antenna. I loved mine to death. (Other models offer Am/Fm/Tv/Wx band.)
Now I carry a ICom R5.

You read my mind. Saving up for a Yaesu VX7R. Wont save much weight (if any) but will be way more multipurpose.

Thanks for posting & pics.

Thanks for the recommendations!
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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby DonTrusTheMEDIA » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:25 pm

Very nice kit! How do you like the f1? I use an idun and am considering a thinner fallkniven in 3G but am concerned about how the handle material wears with lots of use. How has yours held up?

Also I have an Eton 150 I think and it is a year old and it is starting to yave problems. The volume turns off when adjusting is sometimes. Just a heads up maybe I have a lemon.

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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby Mister Dark » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:33 pm

DonTrusTheMEDIA wrote:Very nice kit! How do you like the f1? I use an idun and am considering a thinner fallkniven in 3G but am concerned about how the handle material wears with lots of use. How has yours held up?

Also I have an Eton 150 I think and it is a year old and it is starting to yave problems. The volume turns off when adjusting is sometimes. Just a heads up maybe I have a lemon.

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Hi DTTM, I honestly haven't had much field time with the F1. I had been using a JLT woodsman, and just recently decided to switch out. (Just for the fun of it, really) I know a couple others who have the F1, and there are quite a few Youtube vids. Nobody seems to complain yet.

Interesting tip on the Eton. The thing is a little flimsy, for sure. It is on the short list to be replaced, hopefully it will survive a few more months.

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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby sigboy40 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:47 pm

You harass me for bungees, but you are rocking 1" Webbing and two full size carabiners?

I do see the advantage of it, and my BOB does sport something similar.

All in all, not a bad set up, I think it's a bit heavy for a GHB, but too each his own. I only have 15.7 miles to get home, and that only takes me a few hours. When I travel for work, I dont really see myself walking much further then that anyways. I used to live out your direction, and drove I-15 45 miles thru a mountain pass twice a day, so I feel your pain.
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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby Mister Dark » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:03 pm

Heh. Yea, I can just use the 8mm and wrap the tree, but all the "tree huggers" get riled up. At least the slings and carabiners are multipurpose. But trying to hang a hammock from a bungee would be entertaining, at least :lol:

And I agree it is heavy. For me, this bag is somewhere between a regular GHB (as in; I work in one specific point "A", and just need to get to one specific point "B") and a full bore multiday BOB. In just the last two weeks, I have been in central florida, coastal NC just as Igor was approaching, parts of Alabama, Virginia just outside of DC, Pennsylvania. And thousands of miles of I-95, I-20, and I-65. And two whole days in my official AO of midland South Carolina. And this pack was with me the whole time. But seriously, NO pack will be able to get me back from places as far flung as that. My general plan is to hightail it into "the woods", and forage my way beck to base. A walk back from Virginia would take months, but I have to start somewhere, right?

I am fairly confident that this pack will at least get me started on my way home.


and no, I wasnt harassing you on the bungee. But I think you know that.
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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby northernxposure » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:06 pm

Whoa, a mini-BOB. Or maxi-GHB?

Lots of great, well thought out gear.

Hard to pick a few things I'd change, as they're mostly personal preferences. Consider:

- Loose the locking biners for either a set of non-locking ovals to save some weight, or go to a wire-gate biner
- Swap the ax for a small saw (personal preference, though would save weight)
- What is the 8mm cord, and more importantly is it rated for load weight? Maybe sub in some Amsteel..
- Headlamp? (personal pref, easier to use both hands)

Honestly, hard to pick apart, it's pretty comprehensive.

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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby WhoShotJR » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:06 pm

Looks pretty good man. Unfortunately I now have to change my kit around, otherwise folks will think I was copying you. Seriously, just what I remember that is the same: Grand Trunk hammock, Marmot pants, Via, platypus, the same MH meals, Snow Peak (though at least mine's the 700, so their not identical :lol: ), the Eton radio, Fenix. Guess I'll have to start over. :(
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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby xxxDarksidexxx » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:23 pm

looks good!

about the only thing i think i could do without would be the pry bar. but thats just me. other than that i dig it!
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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby DonTrusTheMEDIA » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:32 pm

Don't get a headlight, get a phenix headband for a led flashlight. This way you get dual usage o your flashlight. My headband weighs 64g using only 1 light atachment. Nutnfancy uses no top band but I found that uncomfortable with my 4sevens quark aa2. A single cell light would be ok for this method and Dave even more weight.
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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby Mister Dark » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:37 pm

Hey, thanks for all the comments, guys! I appreciate it. Everything you post, gives me needed insight into whether I am getting this thing right or not. Sometimes its hard to see the proverbial forest for all the trees, and when I get caught up in "gear-itis" I tend to get nearsighted on the actual need the gear is trying to fill. Keep em coming!

NXP: Thanks for the comments, you are making me have to work for my justifications for all this junk! I like that.
1) I prefer the locking carabiners simply for the safety. IF a situation came up that I would need to climb up/down anything taller than a typical kitchen stool, I would want the lockers. They are 3 times heavier than a UL wiregate, but if I have any chance at all of hanging from em, I'll take the weight penalty.
2) I have a SvenSaw that I carry a lot of the time. 1 pound, packs easy, and cuts like a laserbeam. But there are still some things that a nice hatchet or axe can do that a saw cant. And this axe only weighs 1#8oz. It isnt a big heavy walmart special... Now, to be fair, the SvenSaw was the last thing I removed, to get under 20# for the contest. Usually, both the saw AND the axe come along for the ride!
3) the 8mm cord is made by Bluewater, and is actually climbers accessory line. Rated at 14kilonewtons, which is right around 3140 pounds of force. I am thinking about getting some Amsteel and trying it out. I had thought AmS didnt like being tied in knots, but I recently heard otherwise. In any event, I am probably going to swap this line out for something, not sure what yet. Either a LOT smaller (6mm or smaller) or a LOT bigger (just get some 10.5 static line and be done with it)
4) Headlamp; see below.

WhoshotJR: Great minds think alike! Seriously though, most of my gear choices are from WW, Blackdog, and Mags gear posts. They should get a commission from the companies they review! So we ALL probably have a lot of the same toys.


xxxDarksidexxx: thanks man. Yea, I keep flip/flopping about the prybar. But I have used it as a mini-shovel, as a wedge when splitting wood, as a weight when throwing a line for my food bag, and more. It just keeps finding a reason to get back in the bag.

DonTrusTheMEDIA et al, I have a pretty nice headlamp. Its that solar panel looking thingy in the "misc gear" pic. I did a writeup of it last week, its a pretty cool lil thing. The Fenix is just for when I REALLY want to see whats going on. Also, lol Nutnfancy.
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Re: Mister Dark's GHB

Postby TacAir » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:34 am

Also, a smaller Am/Fm radio - again, a weight thing. Consider a Sangean DT210 - it is smaller, runs from AAA and the earbuds double an an antenna. I loved mine to death. (Other models offer Am/Fm/Tv/Wx band.)
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You read my mind. Saving up for a Yaesu VX7R. Wont save much weight (if any) but will be way more multipurpose.

I you buy the VX, ensure you purchase the AA battery tray at the same time. If I am out and about in the bush (and need to talk) I run my VX-5 from 2300maH AA batteries. Your recharger might work with these.

Also, carry about 10 ft of A/C safety wire. Can be used for snares and an HF antenna for the H/T. Otherwise, the VX is no good for HF RX.

As for the 8mm line - Used to rappel using 9mm Sampson XLS extra, very low stretch and rated at 4.6K pounds.... Will kill you if used as a fall protection line, but great for fixed work. Ditto on the locking links....
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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB

Postby Mister Dark » Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:34 am

Good points, TacAir. Yea, the AA pack will be a must-have with the Vx. I recently sold my FT-60 dual band, I had the AA pack for it too. Ditto the longer line - even light (16ga) speaker wire should work. string it up between two trees and chat away. If i had anyone I wanted to talk TO, that is.
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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB

Postby sotik » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:35 am

From a back packing point of view I can see many ways you can drop your weight down. However being as this is a bail out bag it is not bad a bad weight for what you intended it to be used for.
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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB

Postby Mister Dark » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:10 am

Yea, for pure UL/lightweight backpacking I would drop a ton of stuff and I think it gets down into the 9-10 base range. I have done that a few times. But that is for a normal "condition white" hiker, which I have never been very good at. Heck, for the UL crowd, my little spyderco is more knife that I would ever need, heh. Although I would still have the same FAK, just cause I am like that.

I will strip it down and weigh it like I would be going out on the AT for a week, I'll let you know where it lands.

But, this isnt BPL. So yea, thanks.
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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB

Postby sotik » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:26 am

Mister Dark wrote:Yea, for pure UL/lightweight backpacking I would drop a ton of stuff and I think it gets down into the 9-10 base range. I have done that a few times. But that is for a normal "condition white" hiker, which I have never been very good at. Heck, for the UL crowd, my little spyderco is more knife that I would ever need, heh. Although I would still have the same FAK, just cause I am like that.

I will strip it down and weigh it like I would be going out on the AT for a week, I'll let you know where it lands.

But, this isnt BPL. So yea, thanks.


I would suggest maybe replacing the hatchet with a folding saw. Takes up less room and weighs a whole lot less too. I also find that a saw makes it easier to cut wood down to size for fires. Since you have the knife you can use for splitting the wood I wouldn't see much other use for a hatchet if you had a saw. I don't know about all that rope. I can't say if its enough or if it is to much. I just carry 50 feet of paracord but you never know what you might need rope for and having extra is always a good thing. I also noticed you have two flashlights. I would say drop one, it is only a couple ounces but in the end all those ounces add onto the main weight of the pack.

However everything I have suggested, you already have covered above :D

But I will say again that you have a very nice pack for under 20 pounds. All around you have you basics of shelter, water, fire, food and security covered pretty well. Heck if it wasn't for the contest you could add 10lbs of food onto it and you have a 30lb pack that will help you last for a week or more without needing to add anything else gear wise.
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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB

Postby northernxposure » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:59 am

Ah, thanks for the background info.

I was a fairly serious climber at one point, hence the questions/suggestions. Some people like locking biners, I've got a couple I keep for belay, but for the most part everything's wiregate or nonlock ovals at this point. Just pull through and wrap once (keep mind of the gate position, but you should know this if you're tying a swiss seat).

Not a huge fan of 8mm ropes, we used to use them in doubles for ice climbing. Not real sure I'd feel super about using one as a single line, but it'll hold. Not something I'd lead with if you get my drift. :D 10mm is more than enough, really like the Mammut ropes - they seem to last longer and have less issues with the sheaths than some of the other brands I've used.

Amsteel will take a knot, just make sure to secure the tag end - always.

Axes are fantastic for splitting/pounding/etc - I fully appreciate having both if the situation allows. I voted saw in this case as you've already got the small pry bar included. To me, the ax and pry bar could be subsituted for each other based on what you need (minus cutting), so it was a one or the other thing.

Maybe skip the 1" nylon webbing for a couple spectra straps? :D

Nice to see another BPL follower on here that can keep things in perspective.


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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB

Postby Mister Dark » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:50 am

Isn't Spectra bad about slipping when knotted? And the more I think about it, the more I think I will ditch the locking carabiners. I dont have any ul wiregates on me, but I do have a set of nonlockers that are about 2/3 the weight. I'll pick up a couple of those Ultralight Metolius mini biners next time I am in REI.

But I think i will hang on to the slings, at least for the short term. They dont stretch much at all, and i have had good luck choking them up with a figure 8 when setting up my hammock. I had some 1" webbing to use for treehuggers, but these are just a little more versatile. And weighed the same. Also, these slings will (just barely) grab on to the 8mm for prusik knots, if I have to try and climb rope. Oh, and I would have to be in a really serious jam to use this 8mm as a single line! Doubled up sounds great, thank you very much.


It is difficult trying to keep the kit at least minimally effective for short descents, while not having a bunch of extra weight tossing around all the time. After all, this is a GHB, not a climbing setup. But I want to make sure I have the ABILITY for short descents or self-rescue. Its something I can do with this rig. I guess that is part of the fun - figuring out what capabilities need to be available, and which ones to leave back home...


I will be getting some amsteel asap. Thanks for the help!
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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB

Postby mega-hertz » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:56 am

looks good, sweet axe.
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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB

Postby Mister Dark » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:23 pm

Ok, so I finally had time to sort out my GHB. Now that I have a "regular" job, my needs went down from my previous "I am 2000 miles from home OHSHI---", to a simple walk from point A to point B if TSHTF. Granted, it is still a 20 mile walk thru multiple townships and urban areas, but it is just a walk nonetheless. And remember, if I HAVE to freakin' walk home, it is because some serious crap has just gone down. I want to move fast and light, and will not waste a single minute cooking food, sightseeing, calling in airstrikes, or the like. I am going to be getting home in a crappy mood because somehow I screwed up and 1) wasnt at home watching the shit go down on my bigscreen tv, 2) wasnt hunkered down in my BOL listening to shit going down on my Ham radio, and even worse, 3) didnt have my full BOB with me!

So, here is my last-ditch pile o gear. This will get me thru a 24 hour period of walking fast in the typical weather we have from March thru November in SC. It has the basics of Fire, Water, Food, Shelter, and Security. Not much more, mind you, but enough to keep me going (I hope) if everything goes bad. Its' one big advantage is that it is small and light. With food (if you can call 1200 cal of lifeboat rations food) and water, it comes in at 14 pounds, 7 ounces. And fits under the backseat of my truck.

First, I should detail my EDC gear. This is the stuff I ALWAYS have in my pockets or on my waist. If it isnt in my pocket, it is because I am asleep, and all this stuff is on the nightstand beside me.
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Glock 19 with 1 spare mag
Fenix E21 (2xAA) flashlight
Leatherman Skeletool
bic lighter
handkerchief
keychain with Spyderco Dragonfly, Streamlight Nano flashlight, P38 can opener, and even a few keys.
Wallet with: 24" by 11" section of aluminum foil, 4' duct tape wrapped around an old hotel passcard, Toollogic "Survival 1" cardtool. (compass, magnifyer lens, knife, firesteel, and whistle), several paperclips, credit cards, and even a small pile of money. Hey, everything a discerning prepper needs, right?
(EDIT: Forgot my Crackberry. Always with me, heck, I get anxiety attacks if it gets more than 3' from me. It was in my pocket when I took the pic)
(EDIT 2: ALSO forgot my damn hat. I wear it 99% of the time, so I do have top cover with me. Just like the Blackberry, it was on me when I took the pic of stuff I keep on me...)

Ok, on to the bag!
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It is a 5.11 PUSH messenger bag. No real frills, just a simple copy of the Maxped Jumbo... But I got it on sale, and it works for me.

FIRE, SECURITY, misc
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(in no particular order)
Taurus 9mm, spare mag, 30 loose rounds
ColdSteel pocket bushman knife
50' paracord
2 - 35 gallon heavy duty plastic bags
Princeton Tec headlamp, lighter and matches, spare batteries.
(not shown: Small pack of handi-wipes. Forgot to pull em out of the bag. Multipurpose FTW)

Note: As I mentioned, I EDC a Glock 19. however, there are some occasions when I leave the Glock at home. The Taurus hangs out in my GHB bag, just in case. If I have the Glock on me, I may or may not leave the Taurus behind. But is sure is nice knowing it is there if I need it.

WATER and FOOD
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Almost, but not quite, 2L of water.
1200 calories worth of Mainstay ration bars.
SnowPeak Ti cup
10 pack of water purification tabs.

This is the most basic food and water kit I can come up with. Certainly not a good way to impress teh wimmenz, but enough to keep me alive and moving for 24 hours. I have tried these mainstay bars several times, and I can attest that they give you energy. They dont fill you up, but you can keep moving, and that is all that matters in this case.

SHELTER
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The big blob at top contains a fleece 50 degree sleeping bag. In cold weather, I would be screwed. But since South Carolina's idea of cold weather is anything below 65, I am in good shape most of the year.
Below it on the left is my Campmor poncho. Not only does it do a good job of keeping me dry in the rain, it is plenty big enough to be used as a tarp, too!
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On the right is my Grand Trunk traveler hammock. Yea, I know. "TSHTF OMG gogogo, and I am still hanging a hammock - what am I , French?" But if I get to a point on my walk home where I absolutely have to stop and sleep, I may as well get 4 hours of great sleep in a hammock, compared to 4-8 hours of crappy sleep laying in the dirt. So, yea. A hammock.
Bottom row has bugspray and sunblock, a small iFak, and a AMK heatsheet - in case the fleece bag cant keep up.

Note: I know I dont have any clothing in the kit. This whole rig is assuming that I have weather-appropriate clothing either on me, or in my truck when SHTF. As I keep a change of clothes, and a nice set of raingear in the truck for work, I think this is a reasonable assumption. I am ALWAYS wearing 5/11 or Truspec pants, quality hiking boots, and a poly tshirt on, and in cooler weater any variation of fleece pullovers, jackets, caps, and the like. I am confident that I would have good clothing on me, if I had to walk my ass home.

And that is it! 14 1/2 pounds, hangs out under my seat. Depending on the duration of the spring bugout, I may give it a full test and let you know how badly it all worked out.

So, whaddya think?
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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB UPDATED 3/7/12

Postby carbean » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:14 am

+ MF'n 1! But keep the axe and get a more reliable pistol.
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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB UPDATED 3/7/12

Postby Mister Dark » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:30 am

carbean wrote:+ MF'n 1! But keep the axe and get a more reliable pistol.


Heh. Thanks man, and yea, the axe is a beautiful thing. It even fits nicely along the strap of the bag. But seriously for this particular application, it is simply unneeded. I have debated it back and forth on my BOB, and I think it will wind up staying in the kit. But for a last-ditch GHB, an axe is a bit too much.


As for the Taurus, I must have the only good one around. 500+ rounds thru it, and no failures at all since #90 or so. It runs my Ranger +P no problems, it runs winchester white box, it runs Blazer. I am confident that this particular Taurus 709slim will work every time I pull the trigger. I have had other Taurus products that I could not say the same for, but this particular one, I am happy with.


Thanks for the input, man. Really.
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Re: Mister Dark's 3 season <20 pound GHB UPDATED 3/7/12

Postby Flying Lead » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:51 am

Nothing wrong with a Taurus. Some of their newer stuff is "best bang for the buck" buys. If you want a 45, Taurus is definitely a front runner. I know of 3 owners that got rid of "nice" guns and bought a new 45 Taurus and a couple of them are over 5000 pops with no problems. I wish my darn 1600 dollar Springfield race gun ran as good.

BTW, nice simple to the point GHB! I like.
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