BOB (30 OCT 2010 2nd update) Kifaru Navigator *pic heavy*

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Post by joekaveh » Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:01 pm

Here's my Current setup:
I feel very happy with my gear and some might say it lacks this or that, but nobodies BOB is going to be perfect and is always changing. Any comments/questions/concerns are welcome.



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First Aid Kit Contents:
one 5x9 sterile pad, three packs of 2 each 3x3 gauze, two packs of 2 each 2x2 gauze, two 3x4 non adherent pads, one 10 pack wound closure pad, two sterile cotton applicators 6", 5 knuckle band aids, 3 finger band aids, 5 finger tip band aids, 5 medium band aids, 7 small band aids, 1 pair nitrile gloves (sterile), 1 roll gauze wrap, 1 roll waterproof tape, 1 roll self adherent sensi-wrap, 1 roll cloth tape, 1 roll gauze wrap. 8 oxycodone, 20 tylenol rapid release gels, 24 loperamide tablets, 6 cuts and scrapes wipes (I should probably remove those since I have neosporin), 1 syringe, 1 tweezers, 1 bottle of neosporin + pain relief, and some other various stuffs like foot power, hand sanitizer and allergy medicine.



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Clothing, starting from bottom right: 2 pairs of wool and wool blend hiking socks, water proof winter gloves, Mountain Hardwear Gortex Jacket (in ziploc bag), Mountain Hardwear Canyon pants (in ziploc bag), large microfiber towel (in bag), fleece cap, Under Armor Cold Gear longsleeve shirt, and all inside cordura bag.

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Food: 4 Mountain House Spaghetti and Meatballs, 2 Beef stew, 5 Peanut Butter Cliff Bars, 1 5oz vienna sausage in BBQ sauce, 1 can pork and beans 15oz, four 4.5oz cans of tuna fillet, three 3 oz spam singles, one 3oz albacore pouch, one 4.5oz tuna herb and garlic pouch, one 7oz pouch of cooked chicken, two 1.5 oz pouches of beef jerky, and one 6 oz pouch of beef jerky.

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Small Fishing kit in Altoids Tin, 2 bottles of 100% deet bug spray, SAS pocket survival guide, Water Purification and Iodine taste neutralizers, nitrile gloves, rite in rain notepad, fine point sharpie, Zebra F-701, Brunton Compass, Petzl Headlamp, Heavy Duty Duct Tape, white and black paracord.
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DMT, Fine/Coarse Diamond Sharpener, Gerber LMF Infantry Knife, Estwing Sportsmans Axe with paracord wrapped around, CRKT Crawford Falcon neck knife, Gerber 600 series multitool, AMK Pocket Survival kit with a few add ons, Husky Mini Screwdriver, 2 bic lighters, Waterproof matches/case, Light My Fire firesteel.
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*Added new pics of my Trauma kit and Shelter/Sleep system 12/12/2009*

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Trauma kit:
* Bag is Eagle Industries Small Gadget bag (multicam was on sale :D)
* 4x Large Kerlix
7x 3x3 pads
20x Butterfly Closures
4x Rolls of Tape
1x Roll of gauze
1x 35g Celox
2x 6" Izzy
1x 36" Sam Splint
* Benchmade 7 Hook (on outside of Kifaru E & E bag)

Shelter:
Integral Designs Siltarp 2
35~ or so feet of white paracord
10 MSR Groundhog stakes
Goretex Bivy


Mammut Kompakt Sleeping bag -5 Degree C rating 195cm in length
Thermarest Ridgerest Deluxe
Thermarest Compressible Camp Pillow

Stove system:
Snow Peak Litemax titanium
Snow Peak 700ml titanium mug/pot
Snow Peak titanium spork
2x Small fuel gigapower fuel canisters.

The stove, one fuel canister, and the majority of the spork fit inside the mug. The extra canister sits on top of the mug. Very light and efficient system for making soups/stews/Mountain House meals (my fav)
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Re: joe's BOB in the works (56k watch out)

Post by Abacus » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:56 pm

Good start. Among other things, I'm sure you are probably aware of, get a FAK, specifically adding moleskin and immodium.

Most of that chow of yours looks like it will require a lot of water and prep. You may want to consider diversifying with something from the ready to eat food group.
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Re: joe's BOB in the works (56k watch out)

Post by eazy » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:22 pm

I don't see any thing for water storage/transportation or any way to cook or prepare your food. You should also add some type of poncho/emergency blanket as a temporary shelter or rain protection.
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Re: joe's BOB in the works (56k watch out)

Post by Woods Walker » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:54 pm

Jvandenhaus wrote:Good start. Among other things, I'm sure you are probably aware of, get a FAK, specifically adding moleskin and immodium.

I think there was a bunch of FAK stuff in the second photo. But maybe he should of posted a gear list to go along with the photos for a proper review.

edit. Looks good so far. If you get the time put a list of the items under each photo to help us along. :D
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Re: joe's BOB in the works (56k watch out)

Post by joekaveh » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:18 pm

Jvandenhaus wrote:Good start. Among other things, I'm sure you are probably aware of, get a FAK, specifically adding moleskin and immodium.

Most of that chow of yours looks like it will require a lot of water and prep. You may want to consider diversifying with something from the ready to eat food group.

Added a more detailed pic of my FAK. It has moleskin and lots of anti-diarrheal pills. As for the chow thing, I had way too many canned foods that I recently switched out for some mountain house pouches, mainly because I carry 240 oz of water in the bag. The 40oz kleen kanteen bottle, and both the 100oz hydration bladders are full. The 80oz platypus bottle is empty. I also use the same steel canteen to boil water in and make soups or stews in, it discolors the bottom of the bottle a bit, but its food grade and works well.
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Re: joe's BOB in the works (56k watch out)

Post by joekaveh » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:24 pm

Added more info on my items. Next item on the buying list tent/tarp/sleeping pad.
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Re: joe's BOB in the works (56k watch out)

Post by Caenus » Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:31 am

I've been bouncing back and forth on machete vs hatchet. I think I've finally settled on machete based on weight. How does the hatchet work for you?
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Post by joekaveh » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:52 am

For me, it works great. I actually considered swapping it out for my cold steel machete but, I live in GA and trees are all over the place so I wouldn't be without a good axe here. Plus it doubles as a good hammer. It all depends on your area and preferences.
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010)

Post by joekaveh » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:10 pm

Updated. Will be adding more pics over the next few days if time allows and making edits to my horrible grammar and spelling :(
Please comment on things you feel I'm missing, keep in mind I still have quite a bit of important items not pictured (maps of my AO for one..)
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by Veritas » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:31 pm

What is the knife on top of the SpecOps pouch? I can't make out the writing on the blade
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by joekaveh » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:33 pm

it's a bark river bravo 1, rampless.
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by Woods Walker » Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:08 pm

Looking good. Do you have a bug net for the bivy?
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by joekaveh » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:27 am

I have a bug net, but its not made especially for the bivy. I'll try to take some pics of the rest of my stuff later. Anything else you feel im missing?
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by Stormrider » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:42 pm

Plenty of food and good tools, clothes and equipment. I like it!

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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by joekaveh » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:00 pm

Stormrider wrote:Plenty of food and good tools, clothes and equipment. I like it!
Thanks, I appreciate the comment(s). I should note that the canned foods have all been replaced with lighter pouch options of tuna and SPAM! I keep a pair of REI waterproof softshell pants and a Mountain Hardwear Goretex jacket in there at all times. During the fall and winter months I keep a windstopper tech jacket, extra wool socks, wool underwear, and wool cap as well. I'll load up the pics of the rest of my clothing tomorrow. You'll notice im a Mountain Hardwear "nut"
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by CipherNameRaVeN » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:55 pm

Very nice setup! I like how you did your representation.

For some reason I can not locate any place that sells Kifaru E&E pouch.
Either way, it will probably be more than what I want to spend. :oops:
Are you aware of any less expensive alternatives?
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Post by CipherNameRaVeN » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:59 pm

Oh, and I am also getting that Estwing hatchet. What is the reason for the paracord wrapped around it? Is it to tie up the firewood or just to have extra?
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by joekaveh » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:31 pm

I had a bunch of paracord in foliage after I got out of the Army, so I found myself with the "urge" to put paracord anyplace I could find extra space. A little added

weight for many great ways to use it. Also for doing finer cutting works, I like holding the axe closer to the blade and the paracord adds better grip. The E&E was

a G1 I bought while it was on sale for like 70 or 80 bucks. They have the G2s on their site for about 100 bucks If im not mistaken.

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Theres a few companies that make E&E bags with varying sizes and uses. I saw someone else post something about their BOB or GHB and they also had an E&E

bag from another manufacturer that looked very well built and possibly better priced. I'll PM you the link IF I can find his post.
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by 2now » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:00 pm

Nice kit;

What does it weigh as it sits?

Anything for self defense above the eastwing hatchet?

Moleskin?
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 22 March 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by joekaveh » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:11 pm

2now wrote:Nice kit;

What does it weigh as it sits?

Anything for self defense above the eastwing hatchet?

Moleskin?
You mean moleskin for my feet? Thats in one of the pics, bunch of it. But I prefer: http://www.amazon.com/Band-Aid-Adhesive ... B001E96LIG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Weight varies, without water it is around 35-40 lbs. I don't keep any 'defense' weapons in the bag. More pics of layout, what goes in the back pouch and why I prefer the back pouch over the E&E soon to come.
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Re: joe's BOB (updated 30 Oct 2010) *pic heavy*

Post by joekaveh » Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:38 pm

2nd update for 30 OCT 2020

*Added more pics of my gear, inside setup, and Kifaru backpouch*
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Post by sarky » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:50 pm

I guess it is all in how you look at things. I have more or less the same set up ( Navigator and E&E docked to it) In fact I just set the wife up in an identical rig. I prefer the E&E pack as all my basic survival gear is in it. (FAK, water filter, survival kit(Spec-ops packRat), survival bivy, stove, and cook kit) If I have to dump my pack, I can pop off the E&E pack and still have enough essentials to keep me comfortable.
With 3 liters of water and 14 days of food my setup weighs in at 65 lbs.
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Re: BOB (30 OCT 2010 2nd update) Kifaru Navigator *pic heav

Post by joekaveh » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:03 am

sarky wrote:I guess it is all in how you look at things. I have more or less the same set up ( Navigator and E&E docked to it) In fact I just set the wife up in an identical rig. I prefer the E&E pack as all my basic survival gear is in it. (FAK, water filter, survival kit(Spec-ops packRat), survival bivy, stove, and cook kit) If I have to dump my pack, I can pop off the E&E pack and still have enough essentials to keep me comfortable.
With 3 liters of water and 14 days of food my setup weighs in at 65 lbs.
I had the same setup, but realized I didnt like having all the extra webbing and shoulder straps on the E&E are uncomfortable/add weight for me. The accessory straps from SPEC OPS Brand work fine on the back Kifaru backpouch. I have a picture of the contents of the backpouch right next to it. Basically same things you have, except I keep my packrat inside my car BOB. Also the backpouch is half the price of the E&E. My backpouch has:

-water filter
-boo boo kit
-fire kit
-Integral Designs tarp
-Stove/Cook kit
-tent pegs and 550 cord
-compass
-duct tape

Do you have any pictures of your setup posted anywhere? Love to see how you have yours setup!
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Re: BOB (30 OCT 2010 2nd update) Kifaru Navigator *pic heav

Post by Jaqen » Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:12 am

Great setup you've put together there.

Do you have a water filter in there somewhere or did I miss it?

Do you have the pack's final weight?

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