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possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by 1stcavmp77 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:41 pm

quiet, cheap, reusable ammo, good for small and medium game, and you can make your own ammo.

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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by Jeriah » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:08 pm

That video contained vastly less fail than I'd been expecting. I've launched arrows from a slingshot, of course, but that mod would make it much easier and more accurate.

Obviously for hunting I'd rather have a bow, but my experiences launching cheap target arrows from an unmodified slingshot confirm, it's got the power to launch an arrow much like a fairly light-draw bow. I don't think we're going to see a "slingshot season" for deer any time soon, nor is this thing any real threat to a compound or crossbow, but in a survival situation, very worth trying.
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by 1stcavmp77 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:13 pm

the thing is it would be very easy to carry this in your bob or woods edc bag and it shouldn't be very hard to make a couple arrows. carry a couple broadheads and you're all set.

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Post by spacecase0 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:38 pm

Jeriah wrote:"slingshot season"
I would love to see it if it happened,
especially if it let people use ballista.
or would the ballista be filled in the bow section of things ?
maybe you would have to have a separate "Siege Engine" season. :)
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Post by HHaase » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:51 pm

I have seen state laws that expressly permit the use of an Atlatl for hunting.

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Post by Zoltan » Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:39 pm

Wow, I think that's a pretty cool use of a standard slingshot! Not something I would have at all thought of!

And like 1stcavmp77 said, just carry around a few arrows and a bunch of broadheads and you are on business!
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by B3NJ4M1N » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:57 pm

heh cool. i have one of those slingshots somewhere but the band is rotting/need a new one.
i also saw the other day that they sell those slingshots at walmart for something like $5.68

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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by The Punisher » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:03 pm

I meant to post earlier on this.

It seems decent enough, but I just don't think you'll get the umph you need for BIG game. But then again, I've never shot a deer or anything larger with a slingshot and an arrow. So... someone try it out and let me know. If you're not attacked by an angry animal first. :P
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by miles » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:55 pm

I saw that video yesterday and it made me seriously consider getting a slingshot. I had been considering ideas for a weapon that I didn't need to worry about making sure I had enough ammo packed. In theory you could make some arrows (broadheads optional) to use this way. If not you still had something for small game.

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Post by Sworbeyegib » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:22 am

I watched this earlier tonight, I subscribe to them on youtube. I'm seriously thinking about building a few of these and seeing what I could do with them. I'm glad someone posted that video in here because I'm too lazy to do it myself.
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Post by none1 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:27 am

The Punisher wrote:I meant to post earlier on this.

It seems decent enough, but I just don't think you'll get the umph you need for BIG game. But then again, I've never shot a deer or anything larger with a slingshot and an arrow. So... someone try it out and let me know. If you're not attacked by an angry animal first. :P
lack of UMPH seems to be a common theoretical comment on this sling, even by those commenting on the youtube site

Well .... hes put an arrow through a metal drum and 12 inches into a hay bail with that slingshot arrow. How much UMPH do people think they need to kill a deer? I mean, its not like deer are armored or anything, they're pretty squishy. :)

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HE IS ONLY 10 yards away. 10 yards. I'm not at all suprised the slingshot can deliver some powerful force to an arrow ... at 10 yards. Yes, its harder to get that close to a deer, but certainly doable. AND .. he's a pretty good shot.
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by liberty45 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:17 am

Interesting! I like it a lot! Definitely going to try this out! Thanks!

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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by 1stcavmp77 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:57 pm

i really like this idea and i think with enough practice and some decent stalking skills this could be a better survival weapon than a .22 rifle or a regualr bow.

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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by That German Guy » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:15 pm

I like it, I like it a lot!

As for the power thing: A guy I know manages to get 120 joules out of a custom-built slingshot shooting it butterfly-style, which puts you in the .22 short range. He figures he could do 250 easily with stronger bands, but wrist strength is the limiting factor in Germany: no arm supports allowed.
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by spacecase0 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:17 pm

250 joules
that sounds great,
I will try it soon.
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by URBAN ASSAULT » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:22 pm

I am definitely going to throw one of these together to add to the Arsenal, and start looking for closeout bargains at outdoor stores and garage sales to rebuild the arrow supply I had from my compound bow days.

I think this idea has really excellent potential to take down game in a survival situation, especially using decent broadhead arrows.

Self-defense use? Probably not so much, if only because of how long it looks like it takes to reload for another shot.

But for putting rabbit, turkey, possum, coon, nutria, deer, even large fish on the dinner table, this simple rig would be the bee's knees for quiet killing at 10-20 yards.

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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by Red Cell » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:38 pm

Part 2 Prepping the Sling Bow for a Big Game Hunt
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by 1stcavmp77 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:42 pm

damn ya beat me to it. i was just fixing to post that.

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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by Zoltan » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:57 pm

Damn!! That's nuts!!

But now you would have to carry around 2 different drawstrings to do that I would thing. But still much better than having to carry around a full bow!!
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by Lionheart » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:04 pm

Damn I always knew you could do that but I never took it seriously since if you don't got the key ring you get terrible accuracy. I'm definitely gonna do it to the slingshot I got stashed in my b.o.b. especially since I have the same kind as the dude in the video.
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by Merovech » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:03 am

Looks like a pretty cheap/simple weapon for long term use...

Interesting.
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by Red Cell » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:46 am

The heavy pull black bands are key.
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by That German Guy » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:03 am

spacecase0 wrote:250 joules
that sounds great,
I will try it soon.
This guy benches his body weight. "Normal" people can expect 100 or so joules with a wrist support, 40 without it.
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Re: possibly the ultimate survival weapon?

Post by Ufdyixcaff » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:23 am

Ive been doing this for years...

Id NEVER use it on large game, but it works for small to medium game all day long.

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