My INCH tear down. (updated--1st page)

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My INCH tear down. (updated--1st page)

Post by driftking777 » Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:37 pm

Bought the Kelty 4500 5 day pack for 90 bucks. Pack has progressed. now its like this.

Outside of pack as it sits.

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Attached Camelbak 3L (which is setup to be a seperate pack on its own, minus food)

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Contents:

Stainless pot/pan
MSR pocket rocket
MSR PR fuel
Katadyn Filtration system
Mini Binoculars
Wet Wipes
Kleneex's
ramen x2 (not pictured)

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Contents hanging from the kelty pack.

Rock River LED flashlight.
.75L camelbak (with sippy lid :D)
Emergency knife
Locking Carabiner x3
Eureka! 2 man modular tent

Rear Pocket

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Writing Utensils (Fat sharpie x2, med sharpie, fine pt. sharpie, ink pens x2)
BIC
Batteries (AAA x 8, AA x 8)
Med Pouch (Tylenol, Allergy med, neosporin, Tums, Repel, chapstick, Hand warmers)

Fak:
Triangular Bandage w/ safety pins 36x36" x1
Antiseptic Wipes x4
Alcohol Prep Wipes x4
ABD Pad x1
Gauze Pads 3x3" x2
Cotton Tipped Applicator x2
Latex Free Gloves x2
Band Aids galore x30 (large and small)
Adhesive pads x2
Non-Adhesive Pad 3x4" x1
Sissors
Small bandage wrap 1/2"
Supra Form
Tweezers

Main Compartment

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BDU's top/bottoms
Winter tops/bottoms
Black Pines 0 degree bag (waiting to get more compact bag)
Gerber E-tool
Knife

Topper

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Beanie
Glow sticks x3 (green, orange, yellow)
Gerber multi tool
Wild Turkey hanky/bandana
Compass
Listerine mouthwash
Waterproof matches
Poncho
Holster (CZ-52, mags x2)

Left Pouch

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LED Headlamp
Stanley standing LED light
Gun cleaning supplies (red pouch)
Alice Gun cleaning kit (rods, brushed ect)
Duct tape

Right Pouch

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30ft rope
Cliff bars x3
Toiletry bag (wet wipes, TP, q-tips)
Key chain mini-mag

End Product

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I weigh 162lbs (L-BMI is around 150lbs) Me with the pack weighs 202lbs
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Post by crypto » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:15 pm

Kelty makes good gear across the board. Buy with confidence.
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Post by Shiner86 » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:53 pm

I like Kelty quite a bit. I've got 2 of their internal frame backpacks and couldn't be happier with either of them.

Also, don't be afraid to price-shop online. I got both my Keltys brand new at $50 less than they retail for. One I picked up on Amazon and the other I bought on sale from Sierra Trading Post.

Edit: Nevermind about price-shopping. It looks like you've already found one for an excellent price.

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Post by rush2024 » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:10 pm

I have one of their smaller hunting packs. I like better than some of my military packs, but its just a bit small. You should be fine with the size of your choice.

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Post by Agent_Jaws » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:40 pm

crypto wrote:Kelty makes good gear across the board. Buy with confidence.
I second this.

I have to caveat my post by saying that I have personally never owned a Kelty pack, but I have deployed with guys who did (civvies) and it seems like good quality stuff if you're not going to be extremely rough on it. I'm kind of a gear extremist so I go for the bomb proof stuff, but I doubt that with normal use (camping, hiking, hunting, etc.) that you'll have any major problems with it. My only concern would be that, the way I throw bags around, it would catch on something and tear the fabric. I'm a lot rougher on bags than a lot of people though so unless you're a tad crazy, I think you'll be fine with a Kelty. That bag looks like a good base for a BOB and $90 brand new is probably good, whereas I paid around $600 for mine. Told you I was an extremist :D
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Post by PHMadness » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:57 pm

driftking777 wrote:As the title says, tomorrow its looking like im going to pick up a Kelty coyote 4750............
It should serve you well. I have several Kelty items and they are all very well made. Best damn baby backpack on the planet, btw.

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Post by congochris » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:57 am

I've had a Kelty morraine for about 10 years. it's seen less use than I'd like, but I finally this year managed to hurt it.. the 2" waist belt buckle broke and had to be replaced. Also the stitching on the lid is coming out. After ten years, I think that's not half bad.

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Post by DryGrain » Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:24 am

crypto wrote:Kelty makes good gear across the board. Buy with confidence.
+1. It's the brand I used when I first learned how to successfully be outside, and I currently use a Kelty Redwing for my hitchhiking bag/BOB/beer run backpack. They've never let me down. $90 seems like a great deal for that pack, too.
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Post by driftking777 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:26 am

awesome, ill be picking the backpack up as soon as i get off work. glad that i hear everyone saying good things! And yea i did price shop online, cheapest i found was around $105 so im getting a pretty good deal.

Now once i bring it home i'll have to take pictures of it loaded...might be a while..lol
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Post by Ramius » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:31 am

I've owned two Kelty Redwing 3100's and a Kelty Durango 5900 for a few years. At first I was a bit concerned about using civy gear, but after a few torture tests, I have pretty good confidence they will stand up to a resonable amount of abuse. For one test, I put 20 pounds of gear into a Redwing, ran through the woods, crawled through the underbrush, rolled over onto the pack several times, climbed over some obstacles and nothing broke. Then I grabbed some of the straps and pulled pretty hard and nothing broke. Finally, I worked all the zippers as fast as I could, being as rough as I could, and even flung the pack around while holding it by the smallest zipper. Again, nothing broke!

Kelty packs will last you quite a long time if you take care of them. While I would not feel they would survive months on end in combat in Iraqi, I feel they are quite serviceable for us civys.
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Post by OhioMe » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:37 am

We have two Kelty bags, 1 'Mil-Spec' and one 'recreational'/hiking/camping bag. Good stuff.
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Post by driftking777 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:37 pm

welp, i went and picked her up and instantly began filling her..with towels. :lol:

I still dont have all my set yet (sleepbag, ground mat, ect) but the few things that i did have i threw in/on it.

some pics..

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i found a way to cinch on my camelbak (3 Litre) and threw on my nalgen and my handy dandy knife (front strap). i also have my utility/gerber, inside the pack. Later when i get the rest of my gear, i'll take some more pictures, and its contents. I'll also be adding a molle First aid setup, and a molle gun holster for the CZ-52.



end result...im happy :D AAAAAaaaayyyyyyyyeeeeeee!!

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Post by Agent_Jaws » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:50 pm

Well done, looks like that'll be a great foundation for you. Def post more pics once you get it all together. :D
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Post by 111t » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:00 pm

ten out of ten for style for matching the camelbak so perfectly.
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Post by driftking777 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:01 pm

lol worked out pretty damn well i would say. Luckily everything i want to buy is either blue or black for the most part.

might do some cold weather packing in the next few weeks maybe (here in SD its around freezing +/-10 degrees)

so we'll see how well the pack holds up to my hiking and see how she feels loaded.
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Post by Squirrley » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:34 pm

There's a camel back on there?? Wow, looks like it came from the same production line. I had to look at the manufacturers photo in the first post to find it :oops:

I'd voice a word of caution for keeping a camel back in that position tho, it totally screws up your weight balance. I've tried it just on the outside of a small day pack and it was very uncomfortable. I'm guessing if this big bag is full of heavy stuff also, it won't be quite as bad as my experience, when my pack was full of mostly winter clothes, but still, I'd watch out for that, and definitely take it on a test run before you use that setup for real.
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Post by driftking777 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:10 pm

^^^im actually slightly weary of the weight distribution problem also. In a few weeks when i try this setup out, i'll hike around the block to make sure its not to bad.
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Post by congochris » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:18 am

You might try throwing your bladder into one of the side pockets. I've got an REI pack that uses that design and it works pretty well. only throws you off a little bit if you remember to pack either another bladder or other heavy things in the opposite pocket.

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Post by Ufdyixcaff » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:15 am

thats a lid retainer strap, not a hang loop...

good job on the ruck+camelback combo though!

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Post by driftking777 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:10 am

KeepItSimpleStupid wrote:thats a lid retainer strap, not a hang loop...

good job on the ruck+camelback combo though!
what lid retainer strap are you talking about? i never attached anything off of my kelty. The camelbak chest strap is threaded around the pack and through the internal suspension, keeps it from falling down and keeps it out of the way.

*edit realized i think your talking about my Nalgen bottle...lol

I have another lid thats meant to be clipped in, i just dont have it on :D
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Post by Rush2112 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:32 pm

I'll say this for Kelty: Their zippers are bomb-proof.
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Post by driftking777 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:24 pm

Figured i would update this, took me a little longer to do this that i expected. I also dont have the BOB 100% as i still dont have the the sleeping bag, ground pad and tent with it yet (total will add around 10lbs in the end) I actually have the S. bag on the way its a Columbia 0 degree, should be nice.

Anyways, onto the the BOB.

As it sits.

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The tear down:

Top Disconnected

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Poncho
Glow sticks multi colors (green, orange, yellow)
Weather proof matches
Listerine (Thanks for the idea Doc, believe it was you anyways)

still has room to spare, which is nice

Right Side Pouch

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5 Cliff bars
Nylon Rope x 50ft

also have mini light hangin off zipper for easy convenience if need be.

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Left Side Pouch

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Military Spec Flashlight with color lenses w/ temp on/off button.
Stanley LED mini tripod flashlight
Military M16/Rifle cleaning kit w/ alice clip
Small pouch with cleaning wipes

Inside Main compartment

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Some how the pic of its contents dissapeared? However

BDU tops and bottoms
Winter tops and bottoms
Cold weather tops and bottoms
Sleeping bag (once it gets here)

Rear compartment

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Small FAK: Contents

Triangular Bandage w/ safety pins 36x36" x1
Antiseptic Wipes x4
Alcohol Prep Wipes x4
ABD Pad x1
Gauze Pads 3x3" x2
Cotton Tipped Applicator x2
Latex Free Gloves x2
Band Aids galore x30 (large and small)
Adhesive pads x2
Non-Adhesive Pad 3x4" x1
Sissors
Small bandage wrap 1/2"
Supra Form
Tweezers
Tums
Tylenol extra strength
Neosporin (on the go spray)
END FAK

Lighter
Batteries (D's x4, AA's x8, AAA x8)
Markers (2 fat, 2 skinny)
2 pens

Toiletry Bag
T.P. on the go
Wet wipes
Q-tips

Outside the bag

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Waterproof Duck Tape
4" knife with window breaker and seat belt cutter
Earplugs x 10

Then as you can see in my First photos, i have decided to piggyback my camelbak.

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3L of water
Kleneex
Small Bi-nocs

Then i decided to go ahead and weight the full setup

Myself

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BOB minus Camelbak

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with Camelbak

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so...in conclusion 20.5lb BOB and 6.5lbs for my Camelbak fully loaded, not to bad i think, after fully loaded with my sack, tent and ground pad will be around 35lbs. That i can deal with.
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Post by driftking777 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:33 pm

Also i have a holster that attaches to the bag...heres a pic of that

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Re: My BOB tear down.

Post by Squirrley » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:01 pm

Looks great man!

Got any food besides the cliff bars? maybe something for a 'real' meal or two?

Got a water bottle? The camelbak is good, but you never want all your water in just one container. Also, its a lot easier to purify water/use for cooking and such out of a bottle. Speaking of which, got a way (or three) to purify water?

whats with the 10 earplugs? Also, wrap that duct tape on a business card to save some space.

consider trading the kleenex for a hankie, or adding one in addition to the kleenex.

Also, whats with the old flashlight? does that thing use D cells? HEAVY! Lots of modern LED lights that could replace it, with the color filters and all, for a lot less weight and probably a lot more light output and a lot longer battery life.

Knife sharpener for that knife? Doesn't do much good once its dull.
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