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Post by Woods Walker » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:41 pm

It's that time of the year again. Autumn reduced gear outing. Normally I hike with my kit foraging on the way then setup camp but this time going to try something different. I will drive my truck to a camping spot then forage for whatever is needed. If lucky enough to find something on the drive there and it's legal to do so will forage, say an empty can on the side of the road etc etc however can't spend any cash. Here is what I have for gear so far.

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1. Hennessy Hammock Explorer DLX with undercover and standard rain fly.
2. USGI Poncho liner.
3. 2X empty Platy bags.
4. Tenkara fishing gear with 3 flies and mini bait setup.
5. Fenix Headlamp with 2 extra AA batteries.
6. Sawyer Mini filter.
7. WCF Sharpened Tomahawk striker with DIY Kydex sheath. Not officially a knife but sharp for sure.
8. GSI SS kettle.
9. Primitive firekit. Bowdrill set including chaga.

Going to add TP, toothbrush, Oasis canteen and maybe a bandanna. Goes without saying I will have everything in a pack. Might include the Core 4 stove because I wish to test it some more or maybe not depending on how much time there is.

I will be wearing seasonal clothing as leaving early Friday morning but elected not to include rain gear/poncho despite rain in the forecast for Saturday. Why? Well never actually intentionally done that. Temps are expected to be this: (66 | 51 °F) / (69 | 46 °F) so curious as to how that will work out. LOL! No my plan is to be back at camp before the night rain and predicted cooler temps. Also I will never be more than a mile or so from a road and of course my truck which will be dead to me till Sunday morning is still be there. Foraging will probably cover maybe 5 or more miles hiking which isn't so bad but my hurt foot started to swell again. Gotta take it slow however again this won't in the deep dark jungle by a long shot.

Things I will be looking for.

1. Blackberries, grapes, hickory nuts, black walnuts, wild carrots, naturalized apples, clover, wild scallions, partridge berries, blueberries, huckleberry, staghorn sumac etc etc etc.

2. There are several fishing opportunity within a few miles of camp but must pick the right one as can't do two in one day on foot. The river could be too high if the dam is open and the streams too low.

3. Quartz, cedar bark, pine tar, mullein, birch bark and anything else that will help my primitive firekit.

4. ------WATER------ ASAP.

5. Lower temps means less bugs at night but will still look for natural bug repellents.

6. Make some tent stakes, pot hook and with luck fish on a stick!

Alrighty then, unless something unexpected comes up will see yea all on Sunday.
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Post by Dead_Like_Disco » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:16 am

Enjoy!

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Post by dunamis » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:46 am

Heck of a way to diet, don't you think? :D

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Post by woodsghost » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:12 am

Sounds great! I"m glad you are at least taking a cutting tool, even if it is less than ideal.

I look forward to the trip report!
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Post by TheZone » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:16 am

I was looking at the picture before I read the list, and I said 'Is he hunting vampires?'

Too early in the morning. :oops:

Please post your outcome in detail-I would be very interested in how it plays out.
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Post by Boondock » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:58 am

Should be a lot of fun. Looking forward to the trip report.

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Post by elienergy » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:21 am

I'm interested in how it goes. Post details. Preparing, with the least amount of supplies, ensures the greatest rate of survival. Good luck
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Post by RESCUE-K9 » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:31 am

Sounds like a good test
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Post by TacAir » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:00 am

R is for RANGER, A is for.... Pretty hard Corps.

I'm looking forward to the trip report.

Why?
WW is familiar with the woods and is, based on past reports, experienced enough to forage for food - successfully.

Just how much food is able to be foraged this time of year should be educational for folks who blithely assume that they can 'live off the land'.

Thanks in advance for dong the 'work' and taking the time to post on the trip. This should be interesting - hopefully you won't get rained out.
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Post by Dave_M » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:52 pm

I read the title and my first thought was, 'well, they might die....'

then I saw who made the thread and all concerns dropped :rofl:
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Post by Merovech » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:13 pm

Dave_M wrote:I read the title and my first thought was, 'well, they might die....'

then I saw who made the thread and all concerns dropped :rofl:
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Post by Keith B » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:16 pm

TacAir wrote: WW is familiar with the woods and is, based on past reports, experienced enough to forage for food - successfully.

Just how much food is able to be foraged this time of year should be educational for folks who blithely assume that they can 'live off the land'
This is the one time of year where it can go either way in my locale, way too much, or way too little.
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Post by Sworbeyegib » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:04 pm

I can't wait for a full summary.
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Post by Wormjello » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:47 pm

A lot of people here carry more gear than that when they leave for work every morning. :roll:
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Post by omega_man » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:37 am

Have fun!

I will be stuffing myself with junk food and watching football :lol:
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Post by Boondock » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:02 am

omega_man wrote:I will be stuffing myself with junk food and watching football :lol:
Me, too!

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Post by Woods Walker » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:34 pm

I am back. The rain on the second day sucked. The heights of the outing were the Sumac Lemonade and primitive fire which worked even in the soaking wet. Downers were the rain, chilly nights and no hickory or black walnuts. Gotta go but will post some pics and videos tomorrow.
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Post by Boondock » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:38 pm

Glad to hear it.

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Post by jnathan » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:41 pm

Count me in for thinking this thread is full off awesome. Like most people I can forage for maybe 2 things while in a hike. I would likely starve if I attempted to feed myself for any period of time by foraging.

Thanks for including us in your trip planning and reporting, WW.

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Post by Woods Walker » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:34 am

This is a reduced gear hammock outing. Normally with rain in the forecast a larger fly would be in order however this time that wasn't an option. The standard fly did keep me and some other things dry but offered no real room for cooking or just relaxing under. Didn't have any tent stakes but that's an easy fix.

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Foraging. On the ride there I found mullein and grapes.

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Yellow Birch bark.

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Tried fishing on the first day and failed but will attempt it again higher up the river.

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Foraging for the first day. Not all that good for food but alright for firecraft.

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Added the following to my scrounged list beyond what was previously mentioned.

1. Water.
2. Sweet Fern.
3. Can.
4. Punkwood.
5. Pine tar.
6. Poor quality cedar bark. Small tree stumbled on by chance.
7. Quartz.

So many foraging items were MIA but it is what it is. I was wearing synthetic shorts with a cotton shit. Inside my pack was a light fleece zippered jacket and hat. Still there was a chill in the air. The best fix for that is fire.

Everything ready to go at the fire pit.

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Time to spin a coal.

Some pine needles to cushion my knee.

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On my second GO! it worked.

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Taking no chances I put a good amount of chaga coal extender. Once ignited chaga is very difficult to put out. It will enhance and extend the friction fire coal.

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Once the coal got blown into flames this fire practically exploded. All those pine needles, pine tar and Yellow Birch bark was a flammable mixture.

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With just grapes and water there was time to mess around. As of right then I had only one means to start a fire and it wasn't exactly a cup of white gas with Bic lighter. Processed that mullein to give me another option.

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Shaved off the outer leaves and thin bark removing most of the little humps. Spindles plus a potential two stick fire board. I had paracord which kept the poncho liner rolled up if needed for the two stick fireboard. I tried to char the punk wood inside the can. Crushed one side flat then bent it over to limit air. All seemed fine, had smoke coming out of little holes then it flared up as the can melted. I did this before with cattail but failed here. Going to try this again another time. In any case the punkwood was gone so would need to depend more on the chaga or mullein pith for coal extenders. Whoever said failure isn't an option doesn't live in my world. Well at least the mullein looked good.

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The poncho liner was a bit marginal inside my hammock as the temps dipped. In fact this was the first time we had a real chill during the Summer. The low was in the upper 40's which if this was winter might be a heat wave but right then felt kinda chilly. No real big deal just an observation on how seasonal influences can sway one's view of the weather. Knowing there was cold rain on the way put some wood under my hammock before heading out.

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Now this cedar looked more promising. Took some hanging dead bark and a dry stick for another spindle.

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Risking ticks pushed through some high weeds.

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For this! Also got some Staghorn sumac and wood sorrel. Found wild carrot but didn't bother to forage that.

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Hiked further up river and down a few roads to a new fishing spot.

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It was a win. Honestly Tenkara for me isn't really the best in larger bodies of water. If I packed my spinning rod would had a shot at the small mouth bass jumping for bugs on the first day.

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What the heck? Photos doesn't do this little monster justice. LOL!

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The weather took a nasty turn. A cold rain that didn't stop for hours. The rumors are true, no rain gear plus marginal clothing equals suck. Cleaned the fish in the rain because there was no room under my hammock with the wood there. Also I wasn't going to get any wetter. On a side note a sharpened edge is really useful even if there isn't the rest of the knife. I had plans to haft the head to a stick for a mini hawk but never got around to it.

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Crashed in the hammock till 10 pm when the rain stopped. Here is the second today's foraging. Again I had better foraging outings in the past. There just wasn't much out there.

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1. Blackberries added to what's left from yesterdays wild grapes.
2. Wood Sorrel.
3. Staghorn sumac.
4. Better cedar bark.
5. 3 sunfish.

Time for fire. I made the Kydex sheath for the sharpened hawk striker to allow safe usage as a carbon steel striker without damage to the sheath from impact with a rock or cut from the sharp edge.

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Crushed the quartz foraged the day before. When combined with the carbon steel gave me another way to start a fire. With mist in the air decided this was my best chance though have done friction fire in the wet before.

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It worked even faster than I realized but later seen on the video. Maybe on the second strike the chaga took a coal.

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Dryer wood from under my hammock in stark contrast to the darker wet wood foraged that night. Had some pine pitch on two leaves for an extra push given the wet weather.

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Added an extra large coal extender this time in case the tinder bundle failed. Kept trying to cut away the coal from the larger chunk to ignite the coal extender. Did a great job lighting the extender but finally had to dunk it in water once the fire was burning as it absolutely refused to go out. Chaga is no joke.

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The cedar bark tinder bundle went up.

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Tossed on a handful of what I thought was dry twigs then it went out. Added pine tar plus mullein cuttings. It flamed up then went out again. Finally got the TP out of my pack which was dry, the wonders of Ziploc. Few minutes later had a Lord of the Flies fire. TP can suck up moisture making it a problematic tinder but with the large chaga coal plus multiple coals burning from the past attempt it helped. Still I should have foraged for more Yellow birch, more thin sticks but ran out of time before the rain hit. My fault however at least it ended well.

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Wood sorrel stuff sunfish on a sweet (black) birch stick.

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The Staghorn sumac tea has been steeping in cold water for 30 minutes. The water turned pinkish which was a good sign. Used the bandanna to filter out floaters which is required IMHO. It was amazing! That alone was worth the price of admission.

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All packed up. A mild headache in the morning plus a bunch of small scratches on my legs but other than that felt good. A drink of water in the morning cleared the headache. The clear sunny day made me wish I could spend another but had responsibilities.

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I will post a video in a few days. Thanks for looking.
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Post by bc99 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:50 am

I rarely post but had to comment and say I thoroughly enjoy your outings, videos, and write-ups. Did you make the little hatchet head yourself? Interesting idea to test your skills, I know I'm no where near your level of experience.

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Post by Woods Walker » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:17 am

bc99 wrote:I rarely post but had to comment and say I thoroughly enjoy your outings, videos, and write-ups. Did you make the little hatchet head yourself? Interesting idea to test your skills, I know I'm no where near your level of experience.
It was made by Wolf Creek Forge. The top and back flat edge is hardened to toss sparks but the sharpened edge tempered so not to chip. I did make the Kydex sheath. Thanks for the positive remarks. The same goes to everyone else. :D
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Post by TacAir » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:38 pm

Thanks for taking the time to record your trip!
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Post by Vicarious_Lee » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:37 pm

Wormjello wrote:A lot of people here carry more gear than that when they leave for work every morning. :roll:
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