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Mess Kits

Post by wildman800 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:22 am

I'm curious to know what mess kits everybody prefers, based on their experiences and activities.

I use a USGI canteen, canteen cup , canteen stove, & Esbit tabs for Dayhiking for a cup of coffee while taking a break on a hike. My complete kit is carried in a square 1qt(?) canteen pouch.

For backpacking, I will usually use a Trangia Mess Kit w/ the alcohol stove (usually use the campfire though) for cooking Breakfast and supper. I also carry two USGI canteen cups with the canteens as well. I prefer having the bale on the pot and the extendable handle on the "plate" for campfire usage.

For E&E, which I've only exercised with, I carry an enameled tin cup and a USGI mess kit (plate and frying pan). I presently carry 2 water bottles and a Stanley "canteen" as well since the lower half is also a SS cup. I also carry an Esbit stove & tabs for cooking.

I've included bandannas and water purification tablets and a HoBo knife in all my kits.

What are yall carrying for different activities or purposes??? Has anyone used the Yugoslavian/Serbian Army Mess Kits?

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Re: Mess Kits

Post by woodsghost » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:37 am

I carry Nalgene canteens and a GI canteen cup, a spoon I got from the camping section at walmart, sometimes I grab a metal spoon from the kitchen, and an Esbit stove, though I usually cook over a fire. But I have been looking for a lowpro option.

I like carrying as little as possible anymore.

I sometimes carry a Klean Kanteen bottle that can double as either a cooking pot or water bottle. I use bandannas to hold hot objects. But I have found it can be irritating to have only one vessel that serves double duty as water bottle and cooking pot. It is better to have one vessel for water and one for cooking.

I have found a spoon and knife cover most of my food needs. I just use my camp knife for cutting things. A spoon will handle most tasks. Also, if you have pets, or your friends have pets, a metal spoon is less likely to get eaten than a plastic spoon. In my experience.
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Re: Mess Kits

Post by dunamis » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:58 pm

I carry a GSI "soloist" 1 liter pot which has a handle for setting it in the fire and fits an 8 oz. fuel canister and a little cup inside. I take this with me on backpacking trips but it could be easily brought along on a day hike if I planned on cooking. I also use an MSR pocket rocket stove. I have a titanium spork which I paid too much money for. The pot and cup combo I paid for with my REI dividend and I bought the stove a couple years ago for $40 new.

I typically take one wide mouth nalgene 32 oz. bottle along with a 3 liter reservoir for hydration. My water filter connects to the threads of the nalgene. If I'm planning on staying at the same camp for 3 days or more I will also bring a 10 liter MSR water bag that connects to my filter. That way all my cooking and drinking water for the time I'm at camp can be collected at once.

I eat directly from the pot and use the cup for coffee. It takes longer to heat things up in the fire and there's additional preparation and fuel that must be gathered and spent. If I'm just eating breakfast and breaking camp in the morning, I'm not going to light a fire to cook on. The pocket rocket will heat my meals quickly and allow me to move on or spend more time with other activities I may have planned.

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Re: Mess Kits

Post by crypto » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:19 pm

when backpacking, I use a trangia alcohol kit, supplemented by a canister stove if its going to be cold and I know I'll be cooking a lot.

For day hikes or in my bugout bag, all I have is a nesting steel cup that fits around my nalgene bottle, along with an esbit stove with trioxane tabs (because esbit tabs smell like bad pussy to me)
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Re: Mess Kits

Post by moab » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:07 pm

Czech mess kit and Fancy Feast Alcohol stove.

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Post by jor-el » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:39 pm

Funny, I picked up a few of the SS Swedish Mess Kits on Crypto's thread here. http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... h+mess+kit

The problem I have now is way too many people are aware of them and make offers when they see the Els camping. Probably comes from ebay prices north of 65 bucks apiece. Fortunately I pack iron everywhere I go these days.

I may start assembling a SS version of the Walmart Grease Pot mess kits.
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Post by Towanda » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:50 pm

I have a stainless Swedish mess kit as well, but I don't take it camping anymore for reasons similar to Jor-El's. I also have a Trangia 27 cookset, one I put together with a Clikstand Trangia stove and Evernew pot set, and a USGI mess kit. Oh...I have a stainless steel cup that fits on the bottom of a Nalgene, too.
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Re: Mess Kits

Post by TacAir » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:39 am

OOOhhh - stove porn....


http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 33&t=33772
I got one of these little gems that 111T posted earlier. Really good for fuel. Now for sale on Amazon and Campmor.

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A GSI soloist w/Trangia burner from a mini. BTW, this is a bad pairing as the pot is too narrow to work well.


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I also have several the Swedish SS cook sets, I even gave one away for one of the bug out contests.
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Re: Mess Kits

Post by Halfapint » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:05 am

For years I used the dualist, works great and I love it. Like that it's got the cups, bowls and can hold a small canister and stove inside.

I just recently switched to the soloist I was going to post a review but meh. I really like the soloist because most of the time I go out anymore its by myself and having a pot is all I need.

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Not a bad set up for a single person. you can take all the stuff out of it and use an alcohol stove which works nearly as well as a canister stove if you used the double walled stove. I also like the soloist because it works well with my gasifier stove.

For a comparison this is the setup with with just the stuff it comes with... I like it because the lid doubles as a sippy cup, and its got the neoprene sleeve so you can make your coffee/tea/hot coco and drink it right out of the pot.

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Edit: This isn't the Soloist its actually called the Minimalist
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Post by ROCK6 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:42 am

For backpacking, I’ve really been trimming down. No pictures, but I’m back to a Snow Peak Ti Solo kit, Evernew Ti alcohol stove and Ti spork. I do add a Sea to Summit collapsible mug which I love and is worth the weight.

My wife is just using a Toaks 550ml cup, alcohol stove and spork. Of course, all our food is ready-to-eat, snacks or dehydrated with the only need of cooking is boiling water.

For longer trips and during the cooler months, I may switch back to a iso-butane fuel stove:

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My most versatile setup is the Snow Peak Trek 900 Ti pot (with the additions of Four Dog’s bail and lid); nested inside is the Bushbuddy gasification stove along with a alcohol stove:

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My more “primitive” or bushcraft outings, I’ll stick with my canteen kit and a Trangia alcohol stove:

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Post by bltjr1951 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:08 am

Hey Rock6, I thought you used the pathfinder canteen set?

BTW OP, there are some mess kits that you can't use to cook with, like this LMF one:
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Or the Wildo camp a box:
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Post by ROCK6 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:36 am

bltjr1951 wrote:Hey Rock6, I thought you used the pathfinder canteen set?
I do sometimes. The Pathfinder is kind of setup as a stand-alone right now, but I have the NATO canteen kit with my minimalist kit.

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Post by Mikeyboy » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:38 am

I have a Snow Peak 700 pot, and a cup w/ lid that I took from my GSI Microdualist that I can nest inside it. I can also fit a fuel canister or my Vargo alcohol stove/small bottle of fuel in the pot as well and a small square of green scrub pad and a 6"x6" piece of camp towel. That and I have a TI spork along side of the pot in the mess bag the pot came with along with an . The funny thing is the Snow Peak 700 is basically a oversized Titanium mug with a lid, the Microdualist cup looks more like a small plastic bowl with a sip lid and a insulated ban, but its great for drinking coffee in the morning and some hot cocco at night. Meanwhile I boil water and unless I packed a Mountain House pouch, I am eating out of the pot. So on the one hand I'm eating out of a big metal cup like a hobo, but I'm sipping a hot beverage out of a plastic tea cup with no handle like a princess. Its weird but for me it works great.

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Post by crypto » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:02 pm

jor-el wrote:Funny, I picked up a few of the SS Swedish Mess Kits on Crypto's thread here. http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... h+mess+kit

The problem I have now is way too many people are aware of them and make offers when they see the Els camping. Probably comes from ebay prices north of 65 bucks apiece. Fortunately I pack iron everywhere I go these days.

I may start assembling a SS version of the Walmart Grease Pot mess kits.
Those were a great deal at surplus prices, but I've seen them selling for astronomical rates these days. I still have two in the house, but I rarely use them on camping trips. I did fall in love with the trangia stove though.

Jor-el, if you still use your trangia stove, you should absolutely buy a commercial simmer ring for it. It really, really makes the stove more useful. and the commercial ring fits on the military burner just fine.
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Re: Mess Kits

Post by wildman800 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:31 pm

One other item I 'm reminded of, looking at the posts of those smart enough to be able to post pics, which I can't seem to achieve: what are yall using to carry your messkits?

As mentioned above, i carry my Dayhiking kit in a square canteen pouch. The Trangia lives in my butt pouch (ALICE LBE Harness/backpacking) & the USGI Mess Kit stays in the front pouch of an Israeli Messenger Bag (E&E Kit).
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Post by TacAir » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:48 pm

wildman800 wrote:One other item I 'm reminded of, looking at the posts of those smart enough to be able to post pics, which I can't seem to achieve: what are yall using to carry your messkits?

As mentioned above, i carry my Dayhiking kit in a square canteen pouch. The Trangia lives my butt pouch (ALICE LBE Harness) & the USGI Mess Kit stays in the front pouch of an Israeli Messenger Bag (my E&E Kit).
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Post by bltjr1951 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:24 pm

wildman800 wrote:My complete kit is carried in a square 1qt(?) canteen pouch.
Are you talking about a MOLLE canteen/utility pouch?

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Re: Mess Kits

Post by wildman800 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:39 pm

Yes maybe, and maybe no, it is a square canteen pouch for a square 1qt(?) canteen. It has a shoulder strap and ALICE clips. It looks like some the USA came out with while they were converting from the ALICE system to the MOLLE system.
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Post by bltjr1951 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:02 pm

"Maybe yes, maybe no"?
Either it looks like the pic or not.

I think you're talking about the ALICE 2qt canteen cover.
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Re: Mess Kits

Post by wildman800 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:40 pm

Bingo! That's it ! I wasn't sure if it was a 1 or 2 qt canteen. Thank you for clarifying the issue.
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Post by maldon007 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:26 pm

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Knock off button start micro stove, whatever fuel can, Ti. pot/lid, plastic spoon, jet boil stand, al. foil wind block...

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Re: Mess Kits

Post by wildman800 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:46 pm

bltjr1951 wrote:Hey Rock6, I thought you used the pathfinder canteen set?

BTW OP, there are some mess kits that you can't use to cook with, like this LMF one:
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Or the Wildo camp a box:
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I have very little knowledge of non cooking mess kits since I have no real use for them. Thinking about it though, Those would be good for having young children who are just learning how to camp. They would be prone to use their "cooler " mess kits and stay away from the hotter cooking equipment....

Thanks for that additional info.
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Re: Mess Kits

Post by wildman800 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:08 pm

I was hoping to get some opinions on the Yugoslavian/Serbian Mess Kits.

Looking some over, I like that it comes in it's own pouch for belt or internal/external backpack carry. It's aluminum which I have mixed feelings about. The kit feels quite heavy and I don't care for the canteen being buried inside of the mess kit. I also don't like it's plastic cup.

I do like the overall concept though. Anybody looked at this mess kit?
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Post by Evan the Diplomat » Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:14 pm

My mess kit is as follows Backcountry Boiler with the option of an alcohol wick. I don't like cleaning so hot water from the boiler goes into a repurposed black plastic microwave safe wonton soup container with a Reflectix cosy.

Knife fork and spoon are the black plastic ones from Cinnabon or Baja Fresh at the mall, very tough with good flex. Cinnabon would snap a regular rigid plastic fork.

For water at hand I keep two 1liter Daisani water bottles one in each side pouch of the pack. For filtering I have a Platypus gravity works and a 2.5 gallon collapsible container for extra water at base camp.
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