A listing of a hunting, gathering, and trapping kit

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A listing of a hunting, gathering, and trapping kit

Post by Arsenul » Tue May 28, 2013 9:19 am

So you see those Go-Lite kits that people make on YouTube. What I've put together is meant to keep you going till you die. One thing you'll notice is that a lot of this stuff is cheap, good quality, and will last a long time. So please bear with me, cause this is going to be long and filled with links. Also keep in mind that this is what I am gathering together to use.
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Let's start out with the big guns in order to get food fast and easy when you see it. I'm talking about a rifle. But this isn't your normal rifle. Introducing the Gamo Bone Collector Bull Whisper .177/.22 Air Rifle. This thing is amazing, powerful, and built for all environments. Do your own research on it if you need to, but I love it. I chose this because of how easy it is to use, the type of game it takes, and the ammo size. You can easily fit 250 Rounds of ammo for this rifle in your pocket and it'll weigh less than your phone. 1,250 rounds of ammo costs less than $10.00, is that something you can say about normal guns? Here is the link to the air rifle for if you want to do you own research or buy it.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Gamo_Bone ... Rifle/2706

Next up is the bow. The Cabela's PSE Razorback Recurve Take-down Bow to be exact. It's strong enough to take a deer and it'll come apart for easy storage. When your out hunting, surviving the apocalypse, or prepping in a small space, this bow will help you conserve space. If you are doing what I am, you can easily store your arrows in a way to keep them out of the way of everything else. I'll go into more about that later. Here is the bow to learn more and to purchase.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/PSE-Razo ... llProducts

Now being able to take your game with a trap, bow, or rifle is nice. But being able to clean and gut the animals is even better. That's why when it comes to a knife, I can only suggest one. If you take good care of it like you should all your bladed tools, then it'll last longer than you will. Introducing the Cabela Wyoming Knife. If you have one of these already, then you know just how well these things work. You can use any knife to gut and clean a animal, but I'd rather use one made for the job. Here is the link to purchase and review it.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Camping/ ... t104320080

Now I'm not the best when it comes to trapping. Learning a lot when it comes to survival means you might forget some stuff. So that's why I need a little reminder every now and again. Now unless you are going to forever power your phone or tablet to read a book from it, you'll need a paper copy. And what better book to have a paper copy of than "The Trappers Bible". Telling you how to make different traps, snares, and how to clean your animal easiest. This is a must book for every starter in trapping.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Trappers-Bibl ... mal+Snares

Now everyone's fishing kit is different, but here are the main pieces that make up mine. First up is the one thing that will help me out more than anything. I'm sure someone's posted this on here somewhere, but I'll do it again. In my pack I'll have 18 Fishing YoYo's. These things have done wonders for me when I've been camping. All you got to do is set it up, bait it, set it, and leave. Do that with 18 YoYo's and you'll soon have 18 fish to eat for dinner. That's enough to easily keep you going. These babies are amazing, and should be in everyone's kit.
http://www.amazon.com/BULK-PACK-WHITES- ... hing+hooks

Now these things are great, but I'd rather know if the fish was caught while I'm away. If it's just hanging there, that's food for any animal wandering by. So that's why if you have a limb line, these YoYo's, or what ever, I suggest getting these Fishing Bells. Rather cheap if you have noticed, but they work wonders. Place one of these on the line you have connecting the YoYo to the anchor and when the fish is caught and wiggles around, the bell makes enough noise for you to notice.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20pcs-Fishing-A ... 51a3ad6f8b

One thing which is easy to do is a limb line. You can easily find those on YouTube so I won't put that on here but in my kit, I have 12 homemade limb lines. You just bait it and tie it off to a limb, when you come back, there's a great chance you've caught something big and it's not going anywhere cause of the lines toughness and it's tied off.

And here we have something that will fit in my pack. It's also something I enjoy doing regularly when I'm at a camp and I'm feeling lazy. Everyone knows about those minnow traps that you leave out and you catch a lot, but that's no fun to me. So I found something a long time ago on a TV show. After doing some research I've found that it's a Umbrella Drop Net. You place it on the bottom and as the minnows swim over it, you pull it up to catch them. Easy to use, pack friendly, and it's a ton of fun for those lazy days. Only 1 is needed for me.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/f ... px?a=60477

Another thing your not seeing is a average fishing pole. Something that everyone has and it's what I have too. But if you want to try and make something smaller, a little stronger, and that'll fit in your pack, then try this out for size. I've never done it but when I found it, I thought of you all.
http://www.sowmas.com/FishingRod.html

Now for those times that I'm at a pond, I can lay out a different type of trap. Cause there's no current, nothing will destroy this. I first saw this watching a show about natives in a different country. It's called a Gill Net. You leave it out in the water, a pond is best, and come back in the morning, chances are a fish has swam into it. You can always bait it for a bigger chance of getting fish. I myself am getting 2 just because that's what works best for me.
http://www.amazon.com/Como-Clear-White- ... 1XLP8ROPY7

Now I'm sure we've all seen these, some of us have them, and some of us have used them. The South Bend Frog Spear. It's used great for frog, can be used for fish, and even a self defense tool if need be. I only see myself getting 2 of these, but I think everyone should have at least one.
http://www.amazon.com/South-Bend-Frog-S ... d_sim_sg_1

Here's a little survival tip. Fish are attracted to WD40. Use it on your hooks and the fish are as good as yours. Also if you want to keep the fish alive longer, try making a small pond for them, or you can take these stringers to the fish and keep them in the water. I myself have 6 of these. Just sitting in my kit ready for the fish that I catch. A great way to keep your fish fresh.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/b ... x?a=966532

This final one isn't regarding to fish but to turtles. You often see a turtle on a long or something else. Well it's bathing in the sunlight, that's natural for a turtle. This trap uses that. You place some water in the inside so that it'll sink just low enough. Then you anchor it by tying it off. The turtle will climb on it and go to the center to bathe. The turtle will then fall into the box on either side because it thinks that it's the water and it'll be stuck. It's really easy and you don't need bait to catch it. I'd suggest at least having one of these.
http://www.memphisnet.net/product/6177/ ... mal_turtle

Now let's talk birds. There are three ways of catching small birds that I know of. If your using it for bait, food, or what have you, these three ways will catch you some birds. The first way is called Lime Sticks. You take some of that widely known sticky lime and coat it on sticks. Place it at a tree or bush you see birds at most of the time. They will land on it and get stuck, unable to move until they are eaten off the stick or you take them off. The second way is called a needle line. You take some paracord inner strands, a needle, and some fruit. You then put the needle through the fruit with the fruit evenly spread on the cord. You then have a length of cord with a needle at the end and fruit or berries on it. Then you hammer the needle into a tree or something so it acts as a anchor. The bird will eat the fruit, including the string, and it won't get away. The reason behind this is because the bird can't take the string that it's in stomach out and it's trapped. The final way is a Mesh Net. You take one of these and put it in a known flight path of birds. You then set it up, wait, and they fly into it getting stuck. I have 2 of them and this is the link I used to get it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Q8 ... UTF8&psc=1

Another way for catching bigger birds, like dove is with a cage. I don't know much about this one other than you set it up, place crumbs on the inside for bait, and wait. The pigeons will walk in on their own and try and get the bait. That way you have a meal ready for you when you get back. If I do get this, it'll only be one.
http://www.memphisnet.net/product/3858/ ... nimal_bird

Now when it comes to snares, I buy three things. Let's talk about the first. You've all seen it at one point, online or at a store. This is the USGI Trip Wire/Snare Wire. You can buy them separately but I bought a 1 three pack. This is the link I bought it from and I got it in case I ever needed to make my own snares.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006GW ... UTF8&psc=1

The next snare is a 5ft Snare meant for Coyotes and animals of that size. The link I'll post shows that it's twelve snares for that price. That's why I myself will be buying 2 of these which will give me a total of twenty four snares. I'd suggest the same thing.
http://www.amazon.com/Ausable-Coyote-Sn ... sim_misc_7

This final snare is a 4ft Snare meant for smaller game like racoons or other animals. Again it'll give me twelve snares for the price which is why again I'm buying 2 of these with a total of twenty four snares. And again I suggest you do the same.
http://www.amazon.com/Ausable-Ultimate- ... mal+Snares

Now this is the all well known Rat Trap. These things are known to break fingers with the force it carries. Nail this baby to a tree and add the bait. Soon you'll have a tree rat for dinner. This was a hard find for the price and the number of Rat Traps. You get twelve rat traps with 1 order. I'm only going to get 1 order for now in order to see how it fits in my pack, but you should get as many as you can afford.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006K3 ... il_1p_0_ti

But what if you want to keep your animals alive? Well that is why we are at the final portion of the meat segment. Live Traps. To start, I know that some animals want live bait, so what better thing to have in your kit than a Live Mouse Trap. In order to catch bigger animals, you need to catch smaller animals. That is why I'll only be buying 1 of these Tin Cat Live Mouse Traps from Victor.
http://www.amazon.com/Victor-M310-Live- ... PLLI78SXWS

Now when it comes to live traps for smaller but bigger animals, I am getting 6 of these small game live animal traps. They are a great size and will work for a long time. Plus the price is amazing!. I suggest you get at least 6 yourself.
http://www.harborfreight.com/16-inch-l- ... 94397.html

Going up in the live traps I plan on getting the same trap but a different game size. Introducing the Medium Game Live Animal Trap. This is just something else I'll know I'll love. I'll be buying 4 of these because of the quality of the trap and the price works for me.
http://www.harborfreight.com/32-1-2-hal ... -9646.html

And finally, you guessed it, introducing the Large Game Live Animal Trap. I'll be getting 4 of these for the same reasons as the last two. With these prices, why not?
http://www.harborfreight.com/37-inch-l- ... 90218.html

Now picking berries one berry at a time can be a daunting task, so I suggest you make this and have it read. When you need to pick berries, and a lot, put it together and just scoop them up.
http://www.bushcraft.ridgeonnet.com/mak ... picker.htm

Now cross contamination is bad. I suggest that you get large plastic bags and place the animals you catch in them separately then you can put them in a bag like this. All your animals, tender, and berries can each go in a plastic or zip lock bag and not containment each other. The last thing you need in a apocalyptic scenario is to get sick.
http://www.amazon.com/Hunters-Specialti ... s=Game+Bag

Now for the two big things that are important here. Without them your walking around with a armful of stuff. The things I'm using to carry this are simple. A backpack and a cart. Let's start with the backpack. To carry on of it I'm using either one of these two backpacks. For you it might be different but these are my two choices. The first one, I can't link cause I didn't buy was a Camlebak Backpack. If you know what this is then you know it'll hold all of this. The second is in this link.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Outdoor-Produ ... 8/19486308

And the second thing I'll be using to carry this, which is also used to carry big game, is a game cart. Keep in mind, this cart will be used to carry all my bug out gear with me because I do not own a car. And before I mentioned about my arrows and how I'm fixing them to work with my cart. I'm taking this and building a box to fit through one of those holes and I'll put the arrows in that box securing them in there. This will be great for people who don't have a car and have to bug out on foot. But this is the final peace of the Hunting, Gathering, and Trapping Kit. I hope you enjoyed it.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/d ... x?a=351879
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Post by ODA 226 » Tue May 28, 2013 11:20 am

Solid ideas and gear! Thanks!
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Post by Manliest » Tue May 28, 2013 12:25 pm

That's a pretty good shopping list. Its a hell of a heavy and bulky load, though. I find your use of rat traps and havahart style box traps interesting, since most of the successful trappers I've talked to use Conibear type traps or steel wire snares.
I'm glad other people have begun openly discussing using carts. I guess the Tactical Wheelbarrow stigma has faded a bit. :grin:

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Re: A listing of a hunting, gathering, and trapping kit

Post by Arsenul » Tue May 28, 2013 12:50 pm

Manliest wrote:That's a pretty good shopping list. Its a hell of a heavy and bulky load, though. I find your use of rat traps and havahart style box traps interesting, since most of the successful trappers I've talked to use Conibear type traps or steel wire snares.
I'm glad other people have begun openly discussing using carts. I guess the Tactical Wheelbarrow stigma has faded a bit. :grin:
I don't drive. I get all my food with these carts when shopping. So I'm used to the heavy load by now, but this is just the planned gear for gathering food. Still gotta get everyday gear together.
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Post by koolaidND » Tue May 28, 2013 3:13 pm

Good list. I have a similar set up. Mine is much heavier in fishing and lighter in trapping. This is purely a function of my experience level.

I have a daisy piston air gun that will shoot 1,000 FPS. It needs to be tested in the winter to make sure the cold winters don't affect it's performance. A precharged pneumatic gun is on my wish list but the baby is milking the slush fund right now. I'd be happy to use an air gun in the summer but I will stick to my .22 for winter use.

I never understood the cart hate within the prepper community. My wife just had a baby. Bugging out in foot requires a cart and stroller in order carry enough stuff to make it to our BOL. Never mind the fact that my wife can't can't carry much weight because of the c-section.


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Post by ROCK6 » Wed May 29, 2013 6:17 am

Good listing; I've been refining my "FiSH" kit for a while...(Fishing, Snaring, Hunting).

Conibear traps are the best long term trap as most animals will destroy your snares; however, snares are much easier to pack along and still work well with competent emplacement.

Don't discount a good gill net and frog gigs. Fishing can be both active and passive and passive fishing allows you to multitask. The mentioned Yo-Yo reels, trot lines, gill net and the Speedhook fishing snares are great ways to land plenty of fish.

For active hunting, probably the most time consuming, I like frog gigs for my area but effective gigging requires a good light and water craft to really bring in a lot.

Although I do have a PSE recurve bow that I like, a more compact, dual-purpose and effective option is the "sling-bow". I really thought it was gimmick, but inside of 20 yards, I'm pretty confident I could take a deer (uses regular arrows). It also uses marbles or lead shot and in a pinch, rocks. I do pack a couple extra tubes and that's the only downside is that they do degrade over time.

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Post by Arsenul » Wed May 29, 2013 7:40 am

ROCK6 wrote:Good listing; I've been refining my "FiSH" kit for a while...(Fishing, Snaring, Hunting).

Conibear traps are the best long term trap as most animals will destroy your snares; however, snares are much easier to pack along and still work well with competent emplacement.

Don't discount a good gill net and frog gigs. Fishing can be both active and passive and passive fishing allows you to multitask. The mentioned Yo-Yo reels, trot lines, gill net and the Speedhook fishing snares are great ways to land plenty of fish.

For active hunting, probably the most time consuming, I like frog gigs for my area but effective gigging requires a good light and water craft to really bring in a lot.

Although I do have a PSE recurve bow that I like, a more compact, dual-purpose and effective option is the "sling-bow". I really thought it was gimmick, but inside of 20 yards, I'm pretty confident I could take a deer (uses regular arrows). It also uses marbles or lead shot and in a pinch, rocks. I do pack a couple extra tubes and that's the only downside is that they do degrade over time.

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Post by Murphman » Wed May 29, 2013 8:18 am

tagged to check out all the links when I have more time.

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Post by ROCK6 » Wed May 29, 2013 7:05 pm

Arsenul wrote:
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That's why most of my FiSH (love that term now) gear is passive. If I can catch food and not be there, then it's completely what I want.
Yeah, we get so wrapped up in active food procurement techniques, that we overlook the less sexy passive methods. I'm fortunate to have a 12 acre pond full of bass, bream, frogs and pesky beavers. I've snared both beaver, squirrel and rabbit around the pond (the beavers tore up every snare) and have been able to practice with the fishing snares. The Speedhooks have really worked well in some areas with the pan fish. I still want to try the gill net and do more frog gigging later this summer. Another nice feature is the abundance of "arrowhead" that grows along the banks...I'll dig up those tubers in the fall.

I would put more than 75% of my "FiSH" kit as passive methods. Active hunting is mostly effective at dawn and dusk. A good routine could combine both (checking snares/traps, trot lines and gill nets). Still it's fun to practice and exercise snaring, trapping and passive fishing skills. You can spend a lot of time actively hunting, but with a good read of water ways and game trails/activity, you can be much more productive with passive measures.

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Post by crowdaddy » Wed May 29, 2013 10:56 pm

Great post, a lot of good, useful info. Will be back to this to check out all the links.

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Post by modF » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:50 pm

You must have been reading my mind, I was just thinking of this topic last night while laying in bed... Good thing you didn't read any of the other thoughts going around at the time. :)

Thanks for the post.

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Post by Diecorpse » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:38 am

I like the idea of the air rifle. Not to many people mention using these. Ive used them for all kinda of animals. They're quiet and some of them pack quite a punch. I dont own many knives but one I do have is called the interceptor by tops knives. This this a steel carbine blade and since I have had it, only sharpened it once. Blade is 1/4 thick and heavy. Would be great to use on a pole for a spear for larger animals like boar and such.Im not sure how many members smoke cigarettes but that would definitely be one thing in my bob and tiolet paper/wipes. Another great thing to have as well would be predator calls. I use the tweety slammer by Primos and have had no issue calling in coyotes. Im sure if paw happens there will be plenty of coyotes around to hunt. Depending where you live just becareful of bob cats and mountain lions when predator calling. These animals can put a hurtin on you if your not prepared for them. Also santizer is must after you clean animals.
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Re: A listing of a hunting, gathering, and trapping kit

Post by huntingohio » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:12 pm

Cool concept, however as a hunter,trapper, and outdoorsman i see a few problems.
An airgun for hunting works ok...even the high powered 22cal airguns really are only lethal at 20yds. I am not saying ditch it but be aware, that if you trap a coyote or something larger you Are up excrement creek, or even if you trap a skunk your going to have to be within spraying range to make a shot. However for taking squirrel and rabbit in an active hunting scenario your golden
From experience i can tell you the wyoming knives are far from what they are cracked up to be, a butcher knife is much better suited to the job of skiining and gutting. They blades on wyoming knives are flimsy and dull quickly. And the handle is an odd shape for all but the initail cut into the stomach cavity of larger animals, and fuck all useless on small game.

Snares are great.....in a last ditch survival kit. Even the larger cable snares are really only good for 1 or 2 coyotes at the best. They break and get so kinked they wont work. Connibears and foothollds are the way to go. There is a reason most proffesional trappers still use them to this day. You would how ever also need hammers sifters stakes and all that jazz that goes along with the traps.

A bow is a great tool however constructing arrows in the field is next to impossible without the propper skills so bring a few dozen.

Now before you waste a ton of money.....LIVETRAPS SuCK!!!!!! First you have to shoot the animal through the tiny little openings in the cage...dosnt sound hard but it is and it can even break off your front sight on your weapon if you snag it. (Ask me how i know). And that live food never spoils mantality that dave c pimps is innacurate. Any caught animal will be in fight or flight mode, it wont eat or drink even when provided with food and water. It will dehydrate and die. I tried this with rabbits to train dogs with and they all died within 3 days. I even had a raccoon attackme when trying to free it, that little bugger tore the hell out of my hand an wristl and left me needing stitches 1.5 miles away from the nearest person.

Overall i like the idea but for traps i would go with what pro trappers use, id supplement the airgun with a small 22 and a few bricks of shells, bring a lot of arrows, get good trapping acessories, bring a good amount of fishing terminal tackle, get a good amount of bank line, and practice these skills so i dont stumble upon an awesome cart full of great stuff attached to your corpse.

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