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Re: Prometheus

Postby Kommander » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:57 pm

Perhaps it's just me but I really don't think the fact that this movie need 59 pages explaining Space Jesus helps this movie. Obviously there was some good stuff here, but it looks like it got "lost" in the script writing.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby greenbeetle » Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:31 pm

Ugh I did not know about Space Jesus until now. Was hoping 2nd movie would have reasonable explanations for this piece of Swiss cheese. Guess I won't be seeing part II.

EDIT: Who'm I kidding I wasn't going to see part II anyways.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby KentsOkay » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:15 pm


0122358 wrote:so we moved a thread to maintain OPSEC on a fictional vid game so our team doesnt get kill as easily by possible spies...fuckin sweet

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Re: Prometheus

Postby Doctorr Fabulous » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:05 am

Blacksmith wrote:
Doc Torr wrote:Rome was the center of the known Western world.


FIFY

China was wielding Armies in the 70,000+ range 1600 years before Rome even became an Empire. Lin-tsz was estimated to have a population well into the hundreds of thousands.

I meant at the time, 0AD, Rome was the center of the known world. Yes, China was mostly ruling East Asia, and I can honestly say I don't know or care what was happening in the Pacific Rim and Australia at the time, or the Americas either. Rome ruled or traded with North Africa, Europe (including Britain) the Middle East, and had trade going as far as India. Anything leaving China to head west went though Roman controlled or influenced area.

But thank you for taking one sentence out of the paragraph and trying to correct it, rather than reading the whole thing to understand the overall point.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby Red Tamarillo » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:01 am

Doc, you could also say China was the centre of it's known world and was trading with x, y and z, as far as Europe. It depends which end you look at if from.

But I've come round to thinking the same as some people here earlier in this thread- the versions people have made up/explained in their own heads would be awesome.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say I think "Chronicles of Riddick" had more atmosphere, and mysticism portrayed in the movie than Prometheus.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby DJH » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:36 pm

Jeriah wrote:I am going to go on the record here as saying only that I am glad I spent my money to see it for myself. Don't walk into it expecting Alien 0.5 or whatever, and just let it be its own sci-fi flick. I enjoyed it. Because, let's be honest: Deep down, there's somewhere that we all want to pretend that we could go back in time and unmake Alien 3, 4, AVP, Predators, and Prometheus, and just have Alien, Aliens, Predator, and Predator 2, and then start over from there. But it's too late. Shit, I want to see the Predator prequel where the Predator kills Mel Gibson from The Patriot to get that flintlock pistol... :lol:

Also, for the record, I actually liked Alien 3. I just know that nobody else does.


I wish they had followed the Dark Horse Comics storyline instead of the tangent they took with A3 & A4, AvP, etc., that would have been epic.

I finally got around to watching it. 3D was a waste, but the only showtime I could fit. Didn't need it, but meh.

I hate seeing good actors saddled with poorly written characters. Ugh. I agree with everyone else about the 3 good ones, the others weren't bad actors either really, and they did what they could but they just couldn't hide the bad writing. Some of it was good, but overall just really piss poor character development killed it for me. Too much reliance on effects/CGI, too little backstory work.

Angry Mohawkhead coulda been a great character with more fleshing out. Sigh.

And yeah, I'd love to see more stuff set in the Riddick universe, that had some potential there.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby Rev » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:41 pm

The major difference between the two is that Rome had a drive to expand its borders and expand its sphere of influence. China for the most part was very insular in comparison.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby xLionx » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:00 pm

DJH wrote:
And yeah, I'd love to see more stuff set in the Riddick universe, that had some potential there.


get ready to be happy because they are finished or almost finished filming the 3rd movie
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Re: Prometheus

Postby Regular Guy » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:48 am



Nope, I'm not letting this thread go. There is some messages in the film, I will decipher them. Or wait from Prometheus 2. :vmad:
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Re: Prometheus

Postby Regular Guy » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:10 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=g4P ... =endscreen

Oh, fuck it, it won't embed.

Now she breaks it down. I have read everything by HP Lovecraft, The Bible, Ancient Alien theories, LOTS of Greek Philosophy and general philosophy of life.

Maybe that's why I jive with the film as much as I do. Granted, many of the questions proposed can not be answered and I think this is why this film is sooooo ambiguous. What Ripley should have done in my opinion is done a trilogy tackling each component at a time. This is more of a Sci-Fi Greek Odyessy in Space. Viewed in that light, much more sense. I think he failed because he didn't have the courage to answer the questions, with whatever reason he saw fit.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby Regular Guy » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:49 pm



Okay, this guy nails a lot of stuff. I especially like his review of the movie Alien.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby OCR » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:42 pm

I loved the movie! I didn't know anything about it being a prequil to Alien as it has been so damn long. After watching it, here are my thoughts on it and relating to alien and preditor. The Enginers created the FF (Face F**kers) as a reproducing weapon of mass discruction to use aganced the Preditors. When the Preditors wopped the Enginers butts, they started going throughout the universe huntting the Aliens. Once almost all the Aliens where wiped out, they started using the FF to creat more on EARTH to hunt again. The reason is the Preditors use hunting as a right of passage to adult hood or to being a warior, kinda like the indians used to. Now fast foward about 3,000+ years and we set out to find where we came from and stumbled appon our creators secret scintific/military out post off of their native planet do to the weapon being to dangerous. We get there and find out some F**ked up shit went down and we shouldn't be there. Tryed to leave but the old guy who payed for the trip said "F**K that shit! I want my creator to make me healthy again so I can live forever!" Well, he did nothing but piss the Enginer off fo one reason or another, I do have a few ideas though. Bla bla bla, crash! Oh no, the Enginer is still alive! Enginer vs GIANT FF, and you know the rest. After all this the ALIEN movies come into play and we venture off once again do to the only mesage we herd from Promethus is "don't come to the same place, cuz we came here and all of us where F**KED".
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Re: Prometheus

Postby DJH » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:16 pm

OCR wrote:I loved the movie! I didn't know anything about it being a prequil to Alien as it has been so damn long. After watching it, here are my thoughts on it and relating to alien and preditor. The Enginers created the FF (Face F**kers) as a reproducing weapon of mass discruction to use aganced the Preditors. When the Preditors wopped the Enginers butts, they started going throughout the universe huntting the Aliens. Once almost all the Aliens where wiped out, they started using the FF to creat more on EARTH to hunt again. The reason is the Preditors use hunting as a right of passage to adult hood or to being a warior, kinda like the indians used to. Now fast foward about 3,000+ years and we set out to find where we came from and stumbled appon our creators secret scintific/military out post off of their native planet do to the weapon being to dangerous. We get there and find out some F**ked up shit went down and we shouldn't be there. Tryed to leave but the old guy who payed for the trip said "F**K that shit! I want my creator to make me healthy again so I can live forever!" Well, he did nothing but piss the Enginer off fo one reason or another, I do have a few ideas though. Bla bla bla, crash! Oh no, the Enginer is still alive! Enginer vs GIANT FF, and you know the rest. After all this the ALIEN movies come into play and we venture off once again do to the only mesage we herd from Promethus is "don't come to the same place, cuz we came here and all of us where F**KED".


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Re: Prometheus

Postby ninja-elbow » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:22 pm

Regular Guy wrote:

Okay, this guy nails a lot of stuff. I especially like his review of the movie Alien.


Re his piece on Alien:
Back to my original premise that Prometheus was to not be an Alien prequel... and Prometheus was a shitty Alien prequel.

Paraphrase dude in video: "Alien was known as a movie that left a lot of unanswered questions." As a fan of that movie like some dudes are a fan of Star Trek, this I know. I assume Scott knew this too. Should've just left it alone then.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby OCR » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:58 pm

He is wrong about the first Face Sucker and First Alien. The Predators where using em in pyrimid battle ground tempols befor the iceage.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby DJH » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:59 pm

OCR wrote:He is wrong about the first Face Sucker and First Alien. The Predators where using em in pyrimid battle ground tempols befor the iceage.


Ridley Scott created the entire Aliens franchise. Other people made AvP, which he does not acknowledge to exist in his timeline.

RS is correct, AvP is wrong.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby Rev » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:03 pm

DJH wrote:
OCR wrote:He is wrong about the first Face Sucker and First Alien. The Predators where using em in pyrimid battle ground tempols befor the iceage.


Ridley Scott created the entire Aliens franchise. Other people made AvP, which he does not acknowledge to exist in his timeline.

RS is correct, AvP is wrong.


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Re: Prometheus

Postby Regular Guy » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:39 pm

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Re: Prometheus

Postby angelofwar » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:47 pm

I loved it...and I got pretty much all of it...the deep stuff. Yeah, there was some corny "duh" moments, but the STORY (not the actions of the actors) was pure awesomeness. Like you RG, and correct me if I'm wrong, I appreciated RS's pose on how he sold the theory that science and religion can co-exist. After some reading, and watching the flick, I came to the conclusion that:

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-We tried to eradicate/kill the engineers that had come to earth, because they weren't like us...so, they decided to build the most bad-ass biological weapon to wipe us out...
-We we're to be, and from the rest of the Aliens movies, apparently were, the delivery method...we've just foiled it in the three aliens movies.
-They're "weapon plant" was not their home planet
-The "aliens" we're an accident...they're weren't designed to mix with engineer DNA...which is why when the one engineer got "infected", they tried to bug out...and why they killed the one.
-What I got from the guy drinking the black goo in the beginning was that he was introducing "life" to a dead planet, through his super DNA.

But, anyway, got the Blue-Ray yesterday, plan on watching the deleted scenes first and foremost!
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Re: Prometheus

Postby Bubba Enfield » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:28 am

I loved it. I'll buy it, I'll watch it again, and I'll see the sequel on the big screen.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby Regular Guy » Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:13 am



I really enjoyed this. The discussion between the android David and the drunk scientist was too damn important. David was using the ooze to do something he was inhibited by many factors to do, create a new life.
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Re: Prometheus

Postby Regular Guy » Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:34 am

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Re: Prometheus

Postby xLionx » Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:57 pm

i agree with almost everything both sides said
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Re: Prometheus

Postby doc savage » Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:04 am

If a third of the movie wasn't left on the cutting room floor ( i.e.: the third which links the rest of the film into a coherent mass and answers most of the questions viewers were disappointed in) then it would have made sense and been a better film.
After seeing the film, then reading the cuts which were edited out, I was furious at how badly ripped off movie goers had been. The edits cut most of the depth and potential out of every grand concept the film had, and retained flashy senseless action scenes.

When the engineer goes berzerk and tears everyone a new hole...he probably just saw a screening of Promethius and was pissed at how badly it was cut.
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