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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:51 pm
by TheLastRifleMan
ineffableone, those are good points and you are right about green bone and dead bone's strength.

Like I mentioned in my earlier post, it has been 18 months in the show, so I would have to imagine that some of the bone tissues in the older walkers has got to be degraded somewhat. I wonder if the virus, like some diseases, causes damage to the internal structures of bones, making them more soft and plastic like then hard. Fantasy speculation, of course but and interesting source of discussion.

Thanks for bringing those points up. I didn't think of that.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:16 pm
by ineffableone
TheLastRifleMan wrote:ineffableone, those are good points and you are right about green bone and dead bone's strength.

Like I mentioned in my earlier post, it has been 18 months in the show, so I would have to imagine that some of the bone tissues in the older walkers has got to be degraded somewhat. I wonder if the virus, like some diseases, causes damage to the internal structures of bones, making them more soft and plastic like then hard. Fantasy speculation, of course but and interesting source of discussion.

Thanks for bringing those points up. I didn't think of that.
Thanks, it is actually something I have oddly thought a lot about. Most people don't actually have much exposure to bone these days, and so only think of bone as the old hard brittle stuff that is from long dead bone.

While I doubt WD has put much consideration into the subject, it is something that could be used to explain why the skulls have seemed to become easier to penetrate and crush.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:05 am
by RickOShea
We've discussed the "soft/brittle bone" stuff before in this thread.....You'd expect that there'd be a lot of them walking around with broken jaws, but the walkers seem to be able to bite through everything but duct tape.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:26 am
by TheLastRifleMan
RickOShea wrote:We've discussed the "soft/brittle bone" stuff before in this thread.....You'd expect that there'd be a lot of them walking around with broken jaws, but the walkers seem to be able to bite through everything but duct tape.
Good point as well. The jaw muscles, as well as the rest of the muscles, seem to still be strong. It's their co ordination that is screwed up from brain damage. But if the virus is ravaging their skeletal structure, you think you would see more dislocated or missing jaws, broken fingers, arms and legs due to fragile bone structure. And missing teeth.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:02 am
by Boondock
Maybe it's all the milk I drank as a kid, but I've been in enough knock-down, drag-out fights to know you can't destroy a human body as easily as they do on TWD.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:18 pm
by Gun_Nut_2k1
Boondock wrote:Maybe it's all the milk I drank as a kid, but I've been in enough knock-down, drag-out fights to know you can't destroy a human body as easily as they do on TWD.
Milk is not in sync wit evolution. Well unless it's Mudders Milk®

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:20 pm
by Evan the Diplomat
Gun_Nut_2k1 wrote:
Boondock wrote:Maybe it's all the milk I drank as a kid, but I've been in enough knock-down, drag-out fights to know you can't destroy a human body as easily as they do on TWD.
Milk is not in sync with evolution. Well unless it's Mudders Milk®
Half right. We were not designed to get our calcium from cows milk as adults. Certain greens and the bones from the small fish, lizards and such we swallowed whole as primitive humans gave us our calcium. Europeans have evolved to tolerate, and process, wide variety of dairy products from cows, sheep and goats. Other cultures like, say the Kalahari bushmen, would become ill from drinking cows milk.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:16 am
by Boondock
The milk thing was a joke, fellas. :wink:

Still say you can't just wreck a body like they do on TWD.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:29 am
by Gun_Nut_2k1
My God guys! Have you never watched Snatch or Jaynestown? I even put the "®" as a hint. Please turn in your brown coats and have a seat. ;)

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:20 am
by Boondock
Gun_Nut_2k1 wrote:Please turn in your brown coats...
Ah, Firefly. R.I.P.

No, I just didn't want to accidentally start a 30-page debate about milk consumption creating a species of super zombies. :D

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:01 pm
by Gun_Nut_2k1
Yeah, that would be utter-ly ridiculous. :mrgreen:

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:11 pm
by ineffableone
Gun_Nut_2k1 wrote:My God guys! Have you never watched Snatch or Jaynestown? I even put the "®" as a hint. Please turn in your brown coats and have a seat. ;)
As soon as I saw your Mudders Milk this song get stuck in my head.



As it is such a good song I didn't mind. :lol:

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:13 pm
by Son of Jord
TheLastRifleMan wrote: Like I mentioned in my earlier post, it has been 18 months in the show, so I would have to imagine that some of the bone tissues in the older walkers has got to be degraded somewhat.
Also keep in mind that every time someone dies, unless precautions are taken (brain stem damage of some sort), they turn. So I'd think there'd be fresh supplies of walkers. You'd have some so decayed, they'd be little more than scattered remains, others look a lot like people simply on a good drunk.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:50 pm
by majorhavoc
Son of Jord wrote:
TheLastRifleMan wrote: Like I mentioned in my earlier post, it has been 18 months in the show, so I would have to imagine that some of the bone tissues in the older walkers has got to be degraded somewhat.
Also keep in mind that every time someone dies, unless precautions are taken (brain stem damage of some sort), they turn. So I'd think there'd be fresh supplies of walkers. You'd have some so decayed, they'd be little more than scattered remains, others look a lot like people simply on a good drunk.
Also understand that the only way to establish that point in the TV TWD universe is to illustrate it in a situation where a zombie's skull in unexpected resistant to trauma. Preferably followed by a character remarking that the creature must be freshly turned.

Until that happens, the show will continue to take the easy way out and have all zombies' heads collapse like an eggshell whenever the plot demands it. Such scenes will continue to be the show's "money shots".

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:24 am
by RickOShea
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:44 am
by RickOShea
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:53 am
by Gun_Nut_2k1
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But man don't you know the first is reasonable? The second is just male sexism.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:58 am
by majorhavoc
Guilty as charged.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:00 am
by Evan the Diplomat
Gun_Nut_2k1 wrote:My God guys! Have you never watched Snatch or Jaynestown? I even put the "®" as a hint. Please turn in your brown coats and have a seat. ;)
Nope, I was overseas for the whole Firefly thing. Heard it was good.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
by Gun_Nut_2k1
Firefly is the best non Zombie TV show EVER to hit the air ways IMHO. The movie Snatch is on a similarly exulted level, but in a different genre.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:38 pm
by ineffableone
Gun_Nut_2k1 wrote:Firefly is the best non Zombie TV show EVER to hit the air ways IMHO. The movie Snatch is on a similarly exulted level, but in a different genre.
There is even the argument that Reavers in Firefly are space zombies. While not animated corpses, they are about as zombie as you can get without being undead.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:10 pm
by raistlin
ineffableone wrote:
Gun_Nut_2k1 wrote:Firefly is the best non Zombie TV show EVER to hit the air ways IMHO. The movie Snatch is on a similarly exulted level, but in a different genre.
There is even the argument that Reavers in Firefly are space zombies. While not animated corpses, they are about as zombie as you can get without being undead.
Vectors in Helix would sort of fit in that class, too. Been sorted of surprised that Helix isn't being discussed much on ZS given how zombie like it is.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:29 pm
by ineffableone
raistlin wrote:
ineffableone wrote:
Gun_Nut_2k1 wrote:Firefly is the best non Zombie TV show EVER to hit the air ways IMHO. The movie Snatch is on a similarly exulted level, but in a different genre.
There is even the argument that Reavers in Firefly are space zombies. While not animated corpses, they are about as zombie as you can get without being undead.
Vectors in Helix would sort of fit in that class, too. Been sorted of surprised that Helix isn't being discussed much on ZS given how zombie like it is.
Yes ZS has a helix thread but it is still a bit light in comments. http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 3&t=110830 I like helix but have only watched a couple episodes so have been staying away from the thread to avoid spoilers.

Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:55 pm
by feedthedog
ineffableone wrote:
raistlin wrote:
ineffableone wrote:
Gun_Nut_2k1 wrote:Firefly is the best non Zombie TV show EVER to hit the air ways IMHO. The movie Snatch is on a similarly exulted level, but in a different genre.
There is even the argument that Reavers in Firefly are space zombies. While not animated corpses, they are about as zombie as you can get without being undead.
Vectors in Helix would sort of fit in that class, too. Been sorted of surprised that Helix isn't being discussed much on ZS given how zombie like it is.
Yes ZS has a helix thread but it is still a bit light in comments. http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 3&t=110830 I like helix but have only watched a couple episodes so have been staying away from the thread to avoid spoilers.
Light on comments because the show is pretty terrible.....

I loved BSG, but Helix is just soooo bad.