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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by ineffableone » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:29 am

Grit wrote:I am hoping the person trying to signal them is the kid from the high school
That would mean he got shot. Are you still hoping it was him?
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by Grit » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:40 am

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Grit wrote:I am hoping the person trying to signal them is the kid from the high school
That would mean he got shot. Are you still hoping it was him?
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by Stab74 » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:03 am

dogbane wrote:Did the Lt. seem a bit old for an Lt.?
Well it wouldn't be too weird for a NG unit. I saw Specialist with Grey hair more than once from NG units rotating through Yakima Training Center in Washington. They really should have made him a Captain though.
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by MacWa77ace » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:35 am

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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by Asymetryczna » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:09 am

Grit wrote:I am hoping the person trying to signal them is the kid from the high school
Right on! I know Morse code and signaling. The flashes were the same message repeated over and over. It took me a couple of tries, hitting replay and such, until I was able to capture most of it:

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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by MacAttack » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:23 am

Just re-watched the episode.

The light from the building at the end started out as a signal light but ended up muzzle flashes.

Not a single bit of evidence that it was the solders shooting anything though. Why would they go out on night patrols anyways? They know what they are fighting.

As for news from the outside. The solders have radios. Its been 9 or 10 days since the start. The solders are "interacting" with the civilians quite personally so you would think some scuttlebutt would have leaked out by now.


And this group of solders must be the hardest working MF'ers known to man.
Not one walker has been seen by the civilians on the fence. So these solders must be setting up a wider perimeter out of sight of the camp and keeping the MILLIONS of walkers from LA out.
Its been 5 years for the TWD crew and they still have to contend with hoards of walkers. And they were pretty much out of the main super city areas.

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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by RickOShea » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:34 am

MacAttack wrote: Its been 5 years for the TWD crew and they still have to contend with hoards of walkers. And they were pretty much out of the main super city areas.
It's only been 18 months in the TWD timeline: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/The_W ... w_Timeline Image
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by MacAttack » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:45 am

RickOShea wrote:
MacAttack wrote: Its been 5 years for the TWD crew and they still have to contend with hoards of walkers. And they were pretty much out of the main super city areas.
It's only been 18 months in the TWD timeline: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/The_W ... w_Timeline

Your right. I went brain dead for a second.

But the point is still the same.

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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by Stab74 » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:45 am

Asymetryczna wrote:
Grit wrote:I am hoping the person trying to signal them is the kid from the high school
Right on! I know Morse code and signaling. The flashes were the same message repeated over and over. It took me a couple of tries, hitting replay and such, until I was able to capture most of it:

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I don't know man I thought it said this:

AK>AR lol!

That's why the soldiers had to finish him off.
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by RickOShea » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:53 am

ICYMI.....It's hard to read in this screencap, but the banner on the wall behind them says: "Los Angeles Library Week 08.07.10".


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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by Evan the Diplomat » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:33 pm

MacWa77ace wrote: [Sounds like the bite of a Komodo Dragon. Scientists had found some 50 different bacterial strains, at least seven of which are highly septic, in the saliva.]
I'm just catching up reading though the threads so forgive me if this has already been debunked. They found in 2009 that Komodo dragons have relatively clean mouths compared to carnivores and have a flat out venomous bite.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2 ... illed-bite

It now joins the Mexican Beaded Lizard and the Gila Monster in the brotherhood of venomous lizards.

Nick was wearing big ass pants which seems to be "de rigeuer" among kids there days. He had probably removed the belt to wrap it around his arm to allow the vein to bulge before shooting up.

Yes, the trellis maze also struck me like the kind you grow table grapes on, in disrepair, with junk piled in the corners.

I've been waiting for Nick to get out of those old man clothes as well. He should at least be looking for shoes, however I get the feeling that when Travis moved in, Nick hauled out.

Re: Travis I was wonder about his casting, when he spoke his surname. I thought he said "Managua" and wondered where was Esai Morales for this role (He's being the President on The Brink, you must all watch) Maybe they purposely cast a Maori, so at some later episode Curtis can rip of his shirt and lead everyone in a hakka.

As far as his character being an apparent milquetoast, maybe his Maori father was an alcoholic who abused him and his mother and he turned his back on all that macho BS (tell me that's never happened in NZ)

WRT his attitude towards weapons, I don't think it's unusual. I'm a Desert Storm veteran, have my sharpshooter medals, don't own guns. I'll shoot when friends invite me and I can usually hit what I am for, except the time I tried skeet shooting; but I have no need to keep them in the house. I'll avoid the false trope of people kill people, but if thing were going that wrong as on the series, I would be assembling all forms of weaponry I could get my hands on, makeshift or otherwise.

As far as the NG LT being too old, has nobody considered he did his sandbox tours as an NGO, got out missed the camaraderie of brothers in arms, went to sign up for the NG and they said, "Well shucks, you have all this experience over there and this unit needs an officer, how do you feel about being their LT?"
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by Grit » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:44 pm

I was guessing where the girl was giving herself that tat that folks was going to think it was a bite

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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by raistlin » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:32 pm

Does anyone else find the idea that the National Guard would fence in a few neighborhoods as protected areas a fairly absurd approach to the zombie breakout?
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by ineffableone » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:00 pm

raistlin wrote:Does anyone else find the idea that the National Guard would fence in a few neighborhoods as protected areas a fairly absurd approach to the zombie breakout?
Considering how much effort and long it would take to build a fence the size this one seems to be. Yes it seems pretty absurd. But hey, we are talking about a world with zombies so a little suspension of disbelieve is needed to let the story telling happen.
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by Asymetryczna » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:25 pm

Calling something absurd offends people today because it implies that something is utterly or obviously senseless. The more modern method is just to say that it is OK. Try this:

The National Guard would fence in a few neighborhoods as protected areas during the zombie breakout, and that’s OK.

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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by Rick Shaw » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:38 pm

dogbane wrote:Did the Lt. seem a bit old for an Lt.?
When I was n Iraq I routinely ran into national guard NCOs that looked like they were late 40 and early 50....a national guard lt pushing 35 or 40 wouldn't be to crazy

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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by Evan the Diplomat » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:25 pm

DFWMTX wrote:Did anyone notice if Travis & family hung onto the shotgun, or was it Salazar?

Props on Madison for saying the Salazars and Ortiz were part of their household when the military asked.

Here's a graphic on how to read those symbols the military guy was spraying on the house.
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by Boondock » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:46 pm

Rick Shaw wrote:
dogbane wrote:Did the Lt. seem a bit old for an Lt.?
When I was n Iraq I routinely ran into national guard NCOs that looked like they were late 40 and early 50....a national guard lt pushing 35 or 40 wouldn't be to crazy
Yup. A buddy of mine in his mid-30s recently got his commission in the guard. Not uncommon. My unit deployed with a few NCOs and enlisted who were older than dirt.

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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by ineffableone » Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:26 pm

BTW anyone else get the feeling this military concentration camp is basically how the hospital Beth got killed at in WD got started? A bunch of people used to being in charge and who have the weapons to back up their claim to power take over and run things and as they loose contact with higher ups start winging it more and more until their sicker more depraved sides bubble to the surface.

I am starting to thing the "hospital" the sick are being taken to is more an experiment zone, where they test "cures" on expendables. Main reason I started thinking this is why else take Nick, he is not critically injured or sick. Sure he is a junkie, but even if he was cut off from all drugs that is not a for sure death sentence. A lot of junkies do kick and go through withdrawals without dying.

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Sure they set Nick up as having seizures, in the show. But having seizures does not actually mean he will even have respiratory failure. Also as mentioned above, the seizures are only after high heroin doses.

The reality is the most deadly thing about heroin detoxing, is not actually the withdrawals themselves, but the psychological state the person goes through while detoxing often makes them suicidal. There are a lot more withdrawal related suicides than there are full blown withdrawal deaths. Especially considering most junkies not only went through something bad to get them started down the road of addiction, but then while doing drugs saw or did plenty of bad things that they will end up reliving during those withdrawals.

Honestly if I was writing the show, I would not have had let Nick get away with calling the Oxy his medication either. It is his addiction not medication. I would have had Madison correct him on that one.

But then heroin addiction is a sore point for me. I lost a lot of friends to that in the punk scene. For some stupid reason dumb punks seem to thing heroin is romantic, likely due to Sid and Nancy and lots of famous musicians being known addicts.

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LOL realized I went off on an heroin addict tangent there.

My point actually was that them taking Nick to get "treatment" is highly suspicious. It makes me wonder about the motivations and reality of the so called hospital.
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by CarolinaPeach » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:27 pm

It hadn't occurred to me that the light flashes might be Tobias but since there were muzzle flashes in the same place afterwards, I'm hoping it wasn't because I still want to see his sweet, sad-eyed, pimply face again, without any gaping holes or dripping blood. I'm still pulling for that kid to be a long-term survivor.

I wonder if the true purpose of fencing in a neighborhood was more for the benefit of the military rather than that of those in the enclosure? It's only been 9 days or so but if they've noticed that the infected seek out the living (and not for fashion advice) maybe the living inside the fence act as some sort of bait to draw the infected into a kill zone? Of course, those inside the fence would see it as being protected from the infected.

As far as the supplies go, both for the military and for the civilians, that can't be endless. As things further out continue to deteriorate, there will be no more food packs, water, fuel and the power grid is going to be permanently hitting the skids.

Until they get Nick back, or discover that he's dead, I don't see them trying to leave the so-called safe zone. Getting him back with the group, during whatever crisis event occurs, may be the time they break away or that the chain of command for the military complete shatters and everyone scatters.

But at least Nick is getting some sort of a bath...even if it is in an emergency water source. :gonk:

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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by flybynight » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:10 pm

The flashes may well have been Tobias. Who's to say at this point if the gunshots weren't also Tobias fighting back. Nine days outside the so called safe zone might have caused quite a change in him.
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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by raistlin » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:56 pm

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raistlin wrote:Does anyone else find the idea that the National Guard would fence in a few neighborhoods as protected areas a fairly absurd approach to the zombie breakout?
Considering how much effort and long it would take to build a fence the size this one seems to be. Yes it seems pretty absurd. But hey, we are talking about a world with zombies so a little suspension of disbelieve is needed to let the story telling happen.
Oh, I know. Some suspension of disbelief is necessary. But from a Zombie Squad perspective, it seems an extremely impractical solution for this type of disaster scenario. Seems it would be easier to take people to secure locations than to have to create secure neighborhoods, patrol them, and provide resources to people there.

Although it does make sense if you view it as a decision from a mayor or governor who refuses to say that LA is lost. As long as you have a minute percentage of the population living there, something is being done.
Asymetryczna wrote:Calling something absurd offends people today because it implies that something is utterly or obviously senseless. The more modern method is just to say that it is OK. Try this:

The National Guard would fence in a few neighborhoods as protected areas during the zombie breakout, and that’s OK.

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Re: Fear The Walking Dead

Post by dogbane » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:51 pm

Boondock wrote:
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dogbane wrote:Did the Lt. seem a bit old for an Lt.?
When I was n Iraq I routinely ran into national guard NCOs that looked like they were late 40 and early 50....a national guard lt pushing 35 or 40 wouldn't be to crazy
Yup. A buddy of mine in his mid-30s recently got his commission in the guard. Not uncommon. My unit deployed with a few NCOs and enlisted who were older than dirt.
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But Lt. Moyers seemed more captain-y to me. He is interesting--more interesting than the other characters have been for me so far. Provided he's not completely batshit, he's the kind of guy who could conceivably end up in charge, either as a warlord or a member of a junta.

For that kind of character, I thought Christopher Eccleston was great in 28 Days Later. A terribly drawn example, I think, is Joseph Pilato as Captain Henry Rhodes in Romero's Day of the Dead.
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