Fear The Walking Dead

[flybynight]

Well, everybody who died in the first episode turned zombie. From the druggie girlfriend, the old guy in the next bed ( implied) , car accident victim, and Cal. Even the dead bodies in the church were gone when the church was revisited.

Yeah, what did the Doctor say......"If we don't get a rhythm in 60, I want him downstairs....Too much we don't know." And then, "Okay, this Gentleman needs to be downstairs Now!"

This is what I was thinking and I think is similar to the Legacy film Night of the Living Dead. But in that film the virus also infected and reanimated the recently dead and buried too.

The virus infects everyone, but doesn't manifest itself until you die. No matter how you die, you've already got it and will reanimate unless your brain is destroyed. It doesn't spread by the Zombie's bite.

Just my guess.

Maybe the (Purposely Mentioned imo) "Flu Shot" could be the carrier for the "T-Virus"?
Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
J

Since there is not ,nor ever been a virus that reanimates your corpse, I'm still betting on Kang and Kodos being the cause.

[Mack63]

Considering the hospital roommate part, as well as Cal who was not bit but just shot and killed. I am pretty sure everyone IS infected already. I also suspect the junky girlfriend ODed and turned. Which would make for a good case for everyone is infected.

I'm surmising that the junky girlfriend got up while higher than a kite and fell down the stairs splattering the piano with blood and getting impaled in the process. After which she turned, got hungry and ate her 2 co-junkies still passed out from whatever they took.

The part where the people started rioting after the homeless person was shot did seem like current events.

I'm enjoying the series, it's moving along at a pretty good clip.

[CarolinaPeach]

The thing that I'm wondering about is if the junkies in the church were killed by Nick's girlfriend, who had herself turned, how did they all manage to get out of the church? What we've seen in TWD is that someone who turns while inside a building usually stays in the building unless they're following the sound (smell?) of someone alive and get out of the building. The girlfriend was presumably following Nick as he skeedaddled but what about any others; what prompted them to leave a deserted building? It didn't seem like a place that people just streamed into and out of on a regular basis. I figured when Travis and then he and Madison went back, they were going to encounter walkers, but no.

Peach

[ineffableone]

The thing that I'm wondering about is if the junkies in the church were killed by Nick's girlfriend, who had herself turned, how did they all manage to get out of the church? What we've seen in TWD is that someone who turns while inside a building usually stays in the building unless they're following the sound (smell?) of someone alive and get out of the building. The girlfriend was presumably following Nick as he skeedaddled but what about any others; what prompted them to leave a deserted building? It didn't seem like a place that people just streamed into and out of on a regular basis. I figured when Travis and then he and Madison went back, they were going to encounter walkers, but no.

Peach

Well there was the live junkie they ran into when checking out the church who seemed freaked out and had seen something of what had been going on there. So it is possible other junkies were showing up then getting chased out? Or it could have just been simple hearing the sounds of traffic and life outside?

[jlc87]

I have one word for Fear the Walking Dead... BORING. I fell asleep during both episodes. Also, bad acting, slow-mo effects (really?) and bad CG (I noticed it on Nick's shirt when he was running out of the church in the first episode) or whatever effect that was. Meh, I'll keep watching it, but I hope a lot more happens in the third episode. So far though, I'm not that interested in it. Here's hoping it gets better.

[gunsandrockets]

The thing that I'm wondering about is if the junkies in the church were killed by Nick's girlfriend, who had herself turned, how did they all manage to get out of the church? What we've seen in TWD is that someone who turns while inside a building usually stays in the building unless they're following the sound (smell?) of someone alive and get out of the building. The girlfriend was presumably following Nick as he skeedaddled but what about any others; what prompted them to leave a deserted building? It didn't seem like a place that people just streamed into and out of on a regular basis. I figured when Travis and then he and Madison went back, they were going to encounter walkers, but no.

Peach

I'm wondering if the authorities collected those corpses. Clearly some authorities are wise to what's going on, otherwise why did they use hazmat suits when they were collecting the dead homeless guy the police shot downtown?

[majorhavoc]

The thing that I'm wondering about is if the junkies in the church were killed by Nick's girlfriend, who had herself turned, how did they all manage to get out of the church? .... I figured when Travis and then he and Madison went back, they were going to encounter walkers, but no.

Peach

I'm wondering if the authorities collected those corpses. Clearly some authorities are wise to what's going on, otherwise why did they use hazmat suits when they were collecting the dead homeless guy the police shot downtown?

I don't think the authorities had collected the corpses. If they had, the whole area would have been blocked off and marked as a crime scene. And since the show has established that the authorities know something of this strange new pathogen, they would have blocked off access if for no reason other than the fact there was still all that blood and entrails everywhere.

I think the implication is that any zombies in the old church were drawn out of the building by the sounds of passers by, or more likely, vehicular traffic. But I agree with Peach that's at least slightly inconsistent with some ground rules established in TWD, which has shown several instances where buildings are generally able to contain zombies. The church looked like it was fairly challenging for even a problem-solving human to get and out of; it certainly should have been able to contain a few mindless walkers.

But that kind of inconsistency is expected in order to make for a more dramatic story. The walker's absence kept Madison and Travis in the dark for a little longer about the exact circumstances.

[gunsandrockets]

Did anyone see what became of the dead drug dealers handgun? Why wasn't it lying by his car?

[RickOShea]

Did anyone see what became of the dead drug dealers handgun? Why wasn't it lying by his car?

It was still there. You could see it when Nick got down to look under the car......

[LowKey]

The thing that I'm wondering about is if the junkies in the church were killed by Nick's girlfriend, who had herself turned, how did they all manage to get out of the church? .... I figured when Travis and then he and Madison went back, they were going to encounter walkers, but no.

Peach

I'm wondering if the authorities collected those corpses. Clearly some authorities are wise to what's going on, otherwise why did they use hazmat suits when they were collecting the dead homeless guy the police shot downtown?

I don't think the authorities had collected the corpses. If they had, the whole area would have been blocked off and marked as a crime scene. And since the show has established that the authorities know something of this strange new pathogen, they would have blocked off access if for no reason other than the fact there was still all that blood and entrails everywhere.

I think the implication is that any zombies in the old church were drawn out of the building by the sounds of passers by, or more likely, vehicular traffic. But I agree with Peach that's at least slightly inconsistent with some ground rules established in TWD, which has shown several instances where buildings are generally able to contain zombies. The church looked like it was fairly challenging for even a problem-solving human to get and out of; it certainly should have been able to contain a few mindless walkers.

But that kind of inconsistency is expected in order to make for a more dramatic story. The walker's absence kept Madison and Travis in the dark for a little longer about the exact circumstances.

I think you are both underestimating the amount of traffic that church would get. It's a shooting gallery for junkies in Los Angeles. Nick mentioned that if you bought on the corner you could (as in the dealer would let you) shoot up in the church. I'm pretty sure there were quite a few junkies that entered with the intention for shooting who departed in great haste and with much noise (trips, bumps, ect) with a trail of walkers behind them.

Now while I'm not sure about how Gloria died I'm pretty sure the knife in her chest wasn't from a fall where she impaled herself. I think it was planted there by one of the junkies she was gnawing on when Nick came down looking for her.....poor bastards hadn't got the memo explaining how to kill walkers and stuck her in the chest when she came after them.
Alternatively, Gloria got stuck trying to steal someones dope/cash while they were "nodding" and got a knife for her troubles, then turned and started to chew on 'em.

*edited to add*
The reason I doubt Gloria died from an OD is that Nick was still alive and unbitten. If anyone noticed, when Nick woke up Glorias stuff was there with him and it was her shirt (a small woman's shirt, sized for her "90 pounds soaking wet" body) Nick put on...probably to cover his track marks more than anything else. It sure as hell didn't fit him.
Had Gloria OD'ed and then turned Nick would have bee the first to know as she chomped down on him. As he wasn't Gloria's breakfast she died outside of the bed they were sharing.

[DFWMTX]

I'm liking some of the little details I see:
-pudgy nebbish kid is most aware of what is going on, and is adapting the quickest (just needs to work on his zombie combat skills)
-the knowing-worried look exchanged between the dad and the cop getting water at the gas station
-Nick the junkie going through the bathroom at the Matt kid's house looking for meds to boost.

I'm surprised the barber shop doesn't have a back exit though. Most shops have a back entrance. Hopefully the anti-theft barrier holds.

[LowKey]

I'm liking some of the little details I see:
-pudgy nebbish kid is most aware of what is going on, and is adapting the quickest (just needs to work on his zombie combat skills)
-the knowing-worried look exchanged between the dad and the cop getting water at the gas station
-Nick the junkie going through the bathroom at the Matt kid's house looking for meds to boost.

I'm surprised the barber shop doesn't have a back exit though. Most shops have a back entrance. Hopefully the anti-theft barrier holds.

It has to have another exit...fire codes.
I suspect the reasons the "guests" are being kept to the front are:
1- The shop onwer really doesn't want them in there, they aren't welcome.
2- There is something hidden in back/basement. I suspect it's either illegals (sheltering there long term as a refuge) or that there is one or more persons grievously ill in back...maybe a combination of both.

[DFWMTX]

I suspect the reasons the "guests" are being kept to the front are:
1- The shop onwer really doesn't want them in there, they aren't welcome.
2- There is something hidden in back/basement. I suspect it's either illegals (sheltering there long term as a refuge) or that there is one or more persons grievously ill in back...maybe a combination of both.

1 is plainly obvious; the barber even said "thank my wife" when the dad tried to thank him. Dude did not want people in his shop when shit started hitting the fan.
Your second theory is interesting.

[RickOShea]

According to his wiki page, Mr. Salazar and his wife fled to the U.S. from El Salvador back during the '80s when the civil war was going on. So he's probably seen some bad stuff in his time.

http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel_Salazar

[MacWa77ace]

.... If anyone noticed, when Nick woke up Glorias stuff was there with him and it was her shirt (a small woman's shirt, sized for her "90 pounds soaking wet" body) Nick put on...probably to cover his track marks more than anything else. It sure as hell didn't fit him. ... .

Damn I didn't notice that, I thought he was just being 'shagadelic baby'.



I did notice his pants were to big for him, whose were those?

[RickOShea]

[dogbane]

I did notice his pants were to big for him, whose were those?

Well-played.

[Asymetryczna]

LONG LIVE TOBIAS

There is a betting pool at work that asks whether he makes it through the fall season, or not.

[Stercutus]

I'm liking some of the little details I see:
-pudgy nebbish kid is most aware of what is going on, and is adapting the quickest (just needs to work on his zombie combat skills)
-the knowing-worried look exchanged between the dad and the cop getting water at the gas station
-Nick the junkie going through the bathroom at the Matt kid's house looking for meds to boost.

I'm surprised the barber shop doesn't have a back exit though. Most shops have a back entrance. Hopefully the anti-theft barrier holds.

It has to have another exit...fire codes.
I suspect the reasons the "guests" are being kept to the front are:
1- The shop onwer really doesn't want them in there, they aren't welcome.
2- There is something hidden in back/basement. I suspect it's either illegals (sheltering there long term as a refuge) or that there is one or more persons grievously ill in back...maybe a combination of both.

LA has long been a sanctuary city, in fact was the very first one in modern times. Border jumpers don't hide because they don't need to.

LONG LIVE TOBIAS

There is a betting pool at work that asks whether he makes it through the fall season, or not.

I bet he will be just fine. It will be interesting to see if the show will make him lose weight to replicate the starvation conditions they will be under by next season.

[majorhavoc]

LONG LIVE TOBIAS

There is a betting pool at work that asks whether he makes it through the fall season, or not.

I bet he will be just fine. It will be interesting to see if the show will make him lose weight to replicate the starvation conditions they will be under by next season.

LIke Hurley from Lost?



Compared to that guy, Tobias is already a freaking gazelle.

[ineffableone]

LONG LIVE TOBIAS

There is a betting pool at work that asks whether he makes it through the fall season, or not.

You could just look up the IMDB Fear the Walking Dead page and see how many episodes he was in. I have already seen, but will leave it to others to check if they want so I don't leave spoilers.

[Asymetryczna]

You could just look up the IMDB Fear the Walking Dead page and see how many episodes he was in.

I laughed and then discovered you were right. Nonetheless, number of episodes is not definitive enough to determine whether he lived through the fall season, if no one saw him go down. We use a non-paying, non-playing arbitrator to determine whether the bet has a winner and in this case the arbitrator will likely roll the money over into a larger pool of unsolved bets that include:

Will Tebow make it in the NFL? (never determined because "make it" was not determined up front)
What will happen to the Soprano's? (never determined to everyone's satisfaction for payout)
What holiday was Ferris Bueller's parade for? (never determined with enough accuracy for all parties)

[RickOShea]

You could just look up the IMDB Fear the Walking Dead page and see how many episodes he was in.

I laughed and then discovered you were right. Nonetheless, number of episodes is not definitive enough to determine whether he lived through the fall season, if no one saw him go down. We use a non-paying, non-playing arbitrator to determine whether the bet has a winner and in this case the arbitrator will likely roll the money over into a larger pool of unsolved bets that include:

Keep in mind that IMDB is not the most reliable of sources. At one point it had the actors that played the Morales family in season one of TWD listed as being in several episodes of season 5.....and it had Lennie James (Morgan) listed as being in a couple of episodes in season 4.

[flybynight]

When the neighbor across the street turned and chased his wife , he was running. Not shambling or trotting.

[I did not notice he was running. What I saw was his wife backing away from him and then it looked like she tripped over the collapsed bouncy house. If the show's producers are trying to establish that early (non-decomposed) infected can run, they're doing a lousy job of it; all the other zombies we've seen so far have definitely been shamblers./quote]

Just re watched. I was wrong , more a stumbling grab at his wife . Then they fall