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Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by ineffableone » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:23 am

Anyone catch the premier of the Fox show Utopia?

I was curious after seeing previews like this



Interestingly I did not see any of the people in that trailer actually on the show. It was a completely different cast, not sure what that was about.

Over all I have to say it was the nightmare you would expect out of any reality show these days. They seemed to have chosen people by how much they will cause drama over how well they will get along. While they do have folks who have decent skills it almost seems like they picked people with skills who have character flaws on purpose.

For example the general contractor who was such an egotist he talked over everyone and would not listen to anything anyone said, well until he made a complete ass of himself the 1st night getting super drunk and behaving inappropriately with the women.

Biggest thing I see bad for us here is they have a so called prepper on the show. Who flip flops on what she wants every other minute. She is so flighty and honestly a bit flaky that she is almost as bad as Doomsday preppers for giving prepping a bad name. At first I thought I might like her, she mentioned how she was not a Doomsday prepper. But then more and more I saw she is really a mess.

The worst part of the show I have noticed is the people seem to be taking things way too lightly. They have to live a year only have minimal food to start, no power, $5,000 start up capitol, and no system of organization. So far they keep partying every evening, and getting little work done to run electric into the the house. They have done nothing to formalize a system of organization, just default running on voting on things.

While obviously overly dramatic I do think it shows some portion of how difficult it might be when completely random people are thrown together. While we could likely get an ok functioning system going if we hand picked people for a group, when it is random the classes and issues seem to outweigh the need to come together. It becomes a lot of testing and probing eachother to find the pecking order.

Over all though this show is just a reality TV drama fest. Really playing up how bad people can be together with a sprinkle of heartwarming moments thrown in between.
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by Stercutus » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:10 pm

I thought they picked the people on the show by their willingness to use profanity freely and take their clothes off any time day or night in front of everyone.

I think the best moment on the show was when the woman who stated that money, power and religion were the root of all evil got carted out on a stretcher for alcohol poisoning. That, after the complete night of hedonism where everyone got drunk and made an ass out of themselves (except for the preacher and the other old dude).

Second best moment of the night was when the homeless/ drug dealer dude tried to assert dominance over the group early on.

Did not see most of the show as I was flipping between channels to watch the game then got bored with the constant soft core porn and profanity.
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by ineffableone » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:33 pm

I DVRed it, and it was a struggle to get through it. You did not miss much by flipping, it was a mess. Only real reason to watch is if you like the typical reality show train wreck drama.

Interestingly though, they will get to choose new additions as the show goes on. Which might straighten out the drama fest a little bit. Though I suspect they only get to choose from candidates prepicked for drama.

Another thing I noticed, they have a live 24/7 feed on their website. So people can watch unedited footage of what is going on there. Though I suspect there is some production choice as to what footage makes the live feed. As it is not an array of camera angles just one main feed choice. So even that is somewhat controlled as to what people get to see.

BTW on the site they list the prepper girl as "doomsday prepper" even though she attempted to say she was not one.

I might try checking in on the show a few more episodes just for the laugh, but I wont go out of my way to watch it.
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by ineffableone » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:50 pm

BTW the funniest thing for me was Red the "hillbilly" throwing a tantrum about not getting his way. It started because a chicken died. The chef did not want to cook it. Red goes off saying it is perfectly fine to eat. The chef refuses to cook it. Red insists he has experience raising chickens and it is fine to eat.

WTF, if you want to eat it then pluck and gut it your damn self and quit bitching about it to others. The chef saying he wont cook it, fine. Then if you want to cook it do it yourself instead of trying to talk someone else into doing it for you.

But Red can't seem to let it go and keeps throwing a tantrum the entire day, culminating in him almost leaving the show. He walks up to and opens the door all dramatic like he is ready to go, and last minute is talked back inside. LOL. "Just stay one night, and if you feel the same tomorrow then go" is all it took. And of course the big drama that got him to want to leave gets resolved shortly after as the chef apologizes to him.

More than the alcohol poisoning or the drunk fest that was the 1st night or the nudity, that drama was to me the silliest. Just the actions of someone who wanted attention. At any point he could have just fixed the chicken himself but instead wanted someone to trust his opinion. Can't blame folks for not wanting to eat a bird that dropped dead over night. But if you think it is fine don't expect others to do the work of fixing it for you, do it yourself.
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by Murphman » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:40 pm

This show is exactly what I feared it would be. A group of single people, minus the preacher, who really have no experience in creating and leading groups.

These folks are outcasts, and their actions in the first episode show it.
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Post by CarolinaPeach » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:08 pm

Stercutus wrote:I thought they picked the people on the show by their willingness to use profanity freely and take their clothes off any time day or night in front of everyone.

I think the best moment on the show was when the woman who stated that money, power and religion were the root of all evil got carted out on a stretcher for alcohol poisoning. That, after the complete night of hedonism where everyone got drunk and made an ass out of themselves (except for the preacher and the other old dude).

Second best moment of the night was when the homeless/ drug dealer dude tried to assert dominance over the group early on.

Did not see most of the show as I was flipping between channels to watch the game then got bored with the constant soft core porn and profanity.
What is it with people who are so willing to get drunk, naked and generally act like fools when they know there are cameras everywhere? Like you noted, that may be the criteria used in selecting people for reality shows but I just never knew there were that many people out there willing to do that.

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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by ineffableone » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:11 pm

Murphman wrote:This show is exactly what I feared it would be. A group of single people, minus the preacher, who really have no experience in creating and leading groups.

These folks are outcasts, and their actions in the first episode show it.
Yep the cast seems more interesting in hooking up and partying than actually figuring out how to make the "experiment" work. Though 90% of the blame goes on the casting dept and producers for that. While sure the cast is acting idiots, the production is the ones who put this group together.
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Post by mr_slappy75 » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:48 pm

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Stercutus wrote:I thought they picked the people on the show by their willingness to use profanity freely and take their clothes off any time day or night in front of everyone.

I think the best moment on the show was when the woman who stated that money, power and religion were the root of all evil got carted out on a stretcher for alcohol poisoning. That, after the complete night of hedonism where everyone got drunk and made an ass out of themselves (except for the preacher and the other old dude).

Second best moment of the night was when the homeless/ drug dealer dude tried to assert dominance over the group early on.

Did not see most of the show as I was flipping between channels to watch the game then got bored with the constant soft core porn and profanity.
What is it with people who are so willing to get drunk, naked and generally act like fools when they know there are cameras everywhere? Like you noted, that may be the criteria used in selecting people for reality shows but I just never knew there were that many people out there willing to do that.

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I've often wondered the same thing myself Ms. Peach. Is it a generational thing?

I mean I was always that oddball kid who didn't exactly looked forward to picture day in school and since 4th grade you will probably have trouble finding me in the group class pictures. I guess as far as being on camera I am a pretty private person.

Does that mean I have not / did not do stupid things? On the contrary, myself and friends spend many of our misspent youth doing the sort of thing that the cast of "Jackass" got rich for and currently a myriad of teens are putting up all over the web.

Maybe it was because when something had an equal chance of being 'totally awesome' or a 'miserable fail' we figured that bragging rights were for the few who succeeded and the shame of failure was to be never spoken of again unless it was with those who witnessed it first hand, ideally over several drinks.

I suppose the accessibility of both cameras and means to divulge footage over the web and the self-validation provided by online media coupled with the rise of the 'reality tv celebrity' have just made it so that a lot of folks are more 'camera promiscuous' than anything this days.

Sorry, off the soapbox and end of rant.

Back on topic: I have actually not watched the show, they did such a great job of turning me away with the ads and local radio show 'morning after' comments.
The only actual show footage I caught was on "The Soup" it was the scene with the 'Redneck' and the "Ex Con" throwing a tantrum at the selection of canned items in the pantry and then proceeding to stomp on a bunch of them...all the while yelling something intelligible about "Dis cost one feety at the stoe!" :shock:

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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by Kathy in FL » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:53 pm

You know why people go on reality shows? Because they can't make it in real life.

Geez, even taking into account the network execs want them painted a certain way, these people are just huge ongoing train wrecks. You couldn't pay me in gold and bottomless supplies of LTS food to have these people or their types in a MAG I'd be involved in.

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Post by Stercutus » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:14 pm

Kathy in FL wrote:You know why people go on reality shows? Because they can't make it in real life.

Geez, even taking into account the network execs want them painted a certain way, these people are just huge ongoing train wrecks. You couldn't pay me in gold and bottomless supplies of LTS food to have these people or their types in a MAG I'd be involved in.

It definitely reinforces the life lesson of being careful who you trust.
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by Darkhunter » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:35 am

Sad thing is this group of people for the most part seem to be the growing trend of "normal behavior." Look around you and you'll come to realize the sad truth.

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Darkhunter wrote:Sad thing is this group of people for the most part seem to be the growing trend of "normal behavior." Look around you and you'll come to realize the sad truth.
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by Chirpy » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:10 pm

The ratings are as bad as the acting...probably won't be around long.

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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by Fletch » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:09 pm

I had no idea what the show was about, living where I do I don't get to keep up with current stuff. However I thought it was a remake of the amazing channel 4 (UK TV) oddball dystopian fiction series of the same name.

Watched approximately five seconds of the intro and turned it off.

I gather it's essentially survivor and big brother's bastard offspring, and I've watched neither since the first series' shine wore off
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by ineffableone » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:06 pm

Fletch wrote:I had no idea what the show was about, living where I do I don't get to keep up with current stuff. However I thought it was a remake of the amazing channel 4 (UK TV) oddball dystopian fiction series of the same name.
That show is very interesting. I am a big fan of the channel 4 Utopia.
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by jor-el » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:22 am

At the core, isn't this a retooled version of "The Colony"?

Random group with 90% of what they need, have to cobble together the rest, and will soon have conflict with either:
1) Each other? That took like a day?

2) Future outsiders? The 5000 dollars is useless amongst themselves, and they were told it could be used for trade... but with who?
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Post by Darkhunter » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:37 am

ssgcmw wrote:
Darkhunter wrote:Sad thing is this group of people for the most part seem to be the growing trend of "normal behavior." Look around you and you'll come to realize the sad truth.
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jor-el wrote:At the core, isn't this a retooled version of "The Colony"?

Random group with 90% of what they need, have to cobble together the rest, and will soon have conflict with either:
1) Each other? That took like a day?

2) Future outsiders? The 5000 dollars is useless amongst themselves, and they were told it could be used for trade... but with who?
Yeah its that and a mix of Survivor / Big Brother.

Lets be honest folks, you can stick a dozen Amish folks on the same plot of land with the same basic tool and they would have everything up and running smoothly in a few days. It would be extremely interesting the first week and then it would get boring.

These reality TV show have a formula on who they pick. They want conflict and raunchy behavior. They will skip smart and calm people and will pick boisterous types, a few naïve free spirits, and a conservative or two to create friction.

Survivor for years always had this set up; one Open Homosexual, one ultra conservative/religious type, one Urban African American, One white person from rural farmland USA, a housewife, a geek, one goofball and one type "A" megalomaniac/sociopath. The rest of the cast are filled with young "pretty" guys and gals" who are willing to walk around with barely nothing on.

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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by ineffableone » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:01 am

jor-el wrote:At the core, isn't this a retooled version of "The Colony"?

Random group with 90% of what they need, have to cobble together the rest, and will soon have conflict with either:
1) Each other? That took like a day?

2) Future outsiders? The 5000 dollars is useless amongst themselves, and they were told it could be used for trade... but with who?
I would not cal this anything close to the Colony, in fact the Colony is a good show in comparison. I think it all boils down to the casting and production decisions on how they wanted to set the cast up. The narrator talks like it is shocking they had so much conflict, but the reality is they picked people for that very reason. As Mikeyboy said you could stic a bunch of Amish in there and it would be running smooth in a week. Similarly if they had picked decent people who complimented each other and had decent personalities then things would have gone a lot better.

The closer comparison is Big Brother. Not the Colony. It is set up to film the idiot behavior not to actually get the goal of a Utiopia.
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by manowar1313 » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:27 pm

I think there are multiple threads running on this. Not a fan but will watch until my real shows come back in October. Unfortunately the way television seasons run there's a lull that unfortunately lets a lot of this crap through and makes it "The best choice" when you've exhausted everything else on Hulu and Netflicks.
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Post by Stercutus » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:47 pm

Mikeyboy wrote:
Lets be honest folks, you can stick a dozen Amish folks on the same plot of land with the same basic tool and they would have everything up and running smoothly in a few days. It would be extremely interesting the first week and then it would get boring.
Maybe to some. I would find it way more interesting than that crap.
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Post by ineffableone » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:01 pm

Well I finally watched episode 3, and have to say I wont be watching more. The whole starting a separate group think staged by Red and Dave was just absurd. Dave and Red freaking out about what food the others were ordering again just absurd. The minimal interesting things of this show are outweighed by the braincells I loose watching it.

But what really annoys me the most, is the stupid "host" narrator. His script saying how surprising the actions are in the show is just ridiculous, they placed these people there to conflict.

At this point there is only a few Utopians I like, and guess what the reason I like them is they don't actually get featured. The bellydancer Dedecker for example, I often forget she is even there because you never hear her arguing and making a scene. Even though she is the polyamorous one who you would expect to be hooking up left and right with whoever she wants she is rarely ever even shown except background. Amada would likely have been forgotten if she had not been pregnant. So they make sure to include here in background shot regularly. But she is almost never in the mix of drama. Nikki the holistic doctor also you hardly see anything with her in it, she had no major role in the show. Mike only gets dragged into the mix when there is some official meeting and has become the defacto organizer/bureaucrat. Bri and Chris would likely have never gotten air time if they had not hooked up.Only thing that gets them air time is their attempts at romance.

So far it has all been about just who is loud and aggressive. Who is stupid, and ridiculous, and who has the most drama. It is just the typical BS reality show. Hopefully the ratings get the show canceled because it is just a waste of time.
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by Murphman » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:58 am

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So far it has all been about just who is loud and aggressive. Who is stupid, and ridiculous, and who has the most drama. It is just the typical BS reality show. Hopefully the ratings get the show canceled because it is just a waste of time.
Agreed, but it is still recording on my DVR. I watched #4 last night during a bout of insomnia.

The best part of the show was the farmer showed up to sell them a rooster so they can start increasing the size of their flock, and the weird "survival prepper" lady pleaded with him to discuss chicken tractors with the group. He did, so score one for her, then he proceeded to rip her tiny little gardens to shreds on the basis that they won't grow enough food to feed the group, and he implored them to start many more gardens of row crops to feed themselves. Weird lady wanted to argue with him about it, lol.

One of the members was extremely distraught at the fact that the chickens were scratching in the cow manure. She thought they were eating poo. Even the so-called redneck Red agreed that the chickens should not be eating poo and said he was not going to eat poo eggs. None of them have any idea what chickens eat. That saddens me.

They have $3,100 left of $5,000 after two weeks. They earned $40 with one person showing up for a yoga class. The commercial promos are showing classes for yoga, bootcamp, fishing, and Red or Bella as reasons to come pay to be in Utopia.

The new guy is not only good-looking, he is a part-time cage fighter and landscaper. He brought a prime rib with him to buy his way into good graces.

The previews for next week show Red bow-hunting for deer. I can't wait to see how they portray hunting.
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Re: Fox's new reality show Utopia

Post by Dave_M » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:52 am

Mikeyboy wrote:
Lets be honest folks, you can stick a dozen Amish folks on the same plot of land with the same basic tool and they would have everything up and running smoothly in a few days. It would be extremely interesting the first week and then it would get boring.
Whoa whoa now, I've seen the TV show 'Breaking Amish: Out of Order' before--a combination of that show with this one sounds like a reality show dream/nightmare
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