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Re: Doomsday Preppers

Post by CaptBrainFreeze » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:28 pm

Bryan May doesn't prep for a New Madrid fault quake. Another example of them being forced to pick to make it look more interesting. He was highly upset about things that were assured to him were off record, then all the sudden wasn't. Same story over and over. I've had the chance to talk to most of those appearing on the pilot, season one and the current as well. Most of the time, saaaame story. Millions of questions, wear you down, try to get you to slip up.

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Never let them guide you in what you are going to say
if you don't want it known, then keep your mouth shut and don't show them anything.
Don't give them an inch of crazy even if you mean it as a joke..by the time they are done, it'll look like you mean it.


Now the idiot Alamo prepper from last night? I'll refuse any contact from him. He knows just enough to get himself killed or someone else. Seems like every time we take something like Sandy and turn it into a positive preparedness example...this type of lunatic turns around and sets us back again. Ass just had to feed them with the sounds of the goat drowning in its blood. Bet they just ate that up. I'm betting while he was on the ground crying and throwing up after having his bell rung, the production team's emt was off to the side burning his mancard.
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Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:35 pm

CaptBrainFreeze wrote:Bryan May doesn't prep for a New Madrid fault quake. Another example of them being forced to pick to make it look more interesting. He was highly upset about things that were assured to him were off record, then all the sudden wasn't. Same story over and over. I've had the chance to talk to most of those appearing on the pilot, season one and the current as well. Most of the time, saaaame story. Millions of questions, wear you down, try to get you to slip up.

If your going to be on the show, (1st rule is don't)
Never let them guide you in what you are going to say
if you don't want it known, then keep your mouth shut and don't show them anything.
Don't give them an inch of crazy even if you mean it as a joke..by the time they are done, it'll look like you mean it.


Now the idiot Alamo prepper from last night? I'll refuse any contact from him. He knows just enough to get himself killed or someone else. Seems like every time we take something like Sandy and turn it into a positive preparedness example...this type of lunatic turns around and sets us back again. Ass just had to feed them with the sounds of the goat drowning in its blood. Bet they just ate that up. I'm betting while he was on the ground crying and throwing up after having his bell rung, the production team's emt was off to the side burning his mancard.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers

Post by CaptBrainFreeze » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:37 pm

They "paid" some but not Nat Geo. Wise foods gave some food storage to some who showed it in their supply.
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Post by CaptBrainFreeze » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:42 pm

DrGonzo wrote:Has anyone ever had any dealings with Practical Preppers? They are mentioned in each episode as the consulting gurus, but I had never heard of them before the show. Their website has some interesting stuff on it, but I'm curious how they got the 'expert' label.

http://practicalpreppers.com/

David and Scott are good guys. I don't know Scott real well outside the fact he has quite the engineering mind but I know David. He's also known as Southernprepper1 on youtube. He announced recently he was leaving PP. They were on the original one shot pilot called Doomsday Preppers before it turned into the series.
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Post by Here2Learn » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:49 pm

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Here2Learn wrote:I thought the low point of the show was mail order bride guy(Need a prepping partner to watch your back? Just order one off the internet... Nah, she'll never leave you and take half your stuff in a year)(
And I think last night's show was a repeat of that as well. Idiot guy's wife had a super heavy accent and her daughter had a bit of one as well. Neither of them seemed to be comfortable at all with anything that was going on (and who can blame them) and idiot guy seemed like exactly the kind of creepo to do the mail order bride thing. I'm guessing that they are both relatively recent imports.
I was thinking the same thing.

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Post by Here2Learn » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:01 am

CaptBrainFreeze wrote:
DrGonzo wrote:Has anyone ever had any dealings with Practical Preppers? They are mentioned in each episode as the consulting gurus, but I had never heard of them before the show. Their website has some interesting stuff on it, but I'm curious how they got the 'expert' label.

http://practicalpreppers.com/

David and Scott are good guys. I don't know Scott real well outside the fact he has quite the engineering mind but I know David. He's also known as Southernprepper1 on youtube. He announced recently he was leaving PP. They were on the original one shot pilot called Doomsday Preppers before it turned into the series.

I don't know if this has been mentioned before but.... I have Comcast and if you go to ON Demand section for Nat Geo/Doomsday Preppers, there are a couple of 7-8min long Prepper Tips episodes. These are done by Practical Preppers and are actually quite informative, in total contrast to the regular Doomsday Preppers shows.

I'm not sure how much longer I can watch this. I was hoping season 2 would be an improvement instead of..... this. Alaska: The Last Frontier is a more entertaining show on the same time on Discovery Channel. Hopefully, it kicks DDP's ass!

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Post by Vicarious_Lee » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:13 am

My wife and I just caught part of a marathon this this weekend. I have to say, some of the preppers looked pretty positive. I mean, the slutty chick planning on getting out of Houston in an oil crisis...that didn't even make sense, but she seemed cool and motivated, and responsible.

I had no idea Kathy Harrison was anti-gun. My wife got me one of her books once. I'm not going to judge, except to say that maybe that asshole Gabe Suarez should arrange something where he can provide security for her in a major event. That way Gabe doesn't turn into some dick raider and she doesn't turn into a dead hippie.

My favorite Fail Folks were the diabeetus people that ended up going through some messy divorce. They had their doomsday taken care of while the Life Zombies ate them alive. Also, that horribly overweight YouTube guy at least got airtime and attention concerning his right-now Health Zombies that were more of an issue that some solar flare.

The Mormon NRA firearms instructor lady seemed cool, and God did she have a sweet pantry, but my absolute favorite were those Mad Max bros in their compound with multiple wind generators, solar, methane-cooking poop tanks, and a dual-school bus bugout plan. I'm not sure what NG was trying to portray, but all my wife and I got from their segment was "Damn. These people have their shit together. That is one badass setup!"

I think it speaks volumes for prepping that at least SOME of the people portrayed actually came across the TV to my wife and I like intelligent, responsible folks (apparently) in spite of NGs production plans.
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Post by Dabster » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:01 am

A local guy is going to be on the next episode...

http://www.khq.com/story/20211711/local ... r-anything" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Keith B » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:46 am

Dabster wrote:A local guy is going to be on the next episode...

http://www.khq.com/story/20211711/local ... r-anything" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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I seriously hope not. After the ignorant Alamo guy poisoning his food stores, I'm afraid of what this show has in store for the rest of the season.
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Post by Gingerbread Man » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:37 am

Vicarious_Lee wrote:my absolute favorite were those Mad Max bros in their compound with multiple wind generators, solar, methane-cooking poop tanks, and a dual-school bus bugout plan. I'm not sure what NG was trying to portray, but all my wife and I got from their segment was "Damn. These people have their shit together. That is one badass setup!"
I have to take concern with the Mad Max bros. They're area is a fucking mess. I wouldn't be surprised if they have a serious infestation somewhere. That entire compound had a bunch of shit all over it. Sorry, that's a breeding ground for all sort of nasties. There are so many areas there that could contribute to the possibility of unecessary injuries. IF they're concerned with raiders why are they providing them with so many areas of good cover so close to their compound?
Then their bus bug out was fail. They didn't have a scout and they positioned the vehicles in front of the buses. Okay, how are they supposed to drive off with trucks in front of their vehicles. IMO they're making serious mistakes and their plan has serious errors.
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Post by Griffworks » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:20 pm

Wow... Retired chiropractor guy - thus further referred to as Alamo Guy - had an impressive set up, as well as a nice lookin' array of weapons. Seemed to be pretty well focused on the overall goal of keeping his family alive and was at least smart enough to recognize that he and his family couldn't hold The Alamo all on their lonesome.

That being said, what a character he is! His daughter Katarina seemed to have it better grounded than he did. Man....
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I seriously hope not. After the ignorant Alamo guy poisoning his food stores, I'm afraid of what this show has in store for the rest of the season.
Yeah, he didn't impress me all that much. I never did really get why the Alamo Guy poisoned - what was it 10%? - of his food stores. I mean, I get the basic "scorched earth" concept, but to apparently be keeping which containers were bad to himself? That is, if you take the statement at face value that he's the only one who knows what was poisoned. WTF is he going to do if his wife, kids or Idiot Guy and his family prepare them all a meal with the poisoned foods?!?

And while I get that it likely hurt like a sumbitch to have been on the receiving end of that overpressure from the high-powered rifle that Idiot Guy fired in teh blind, Alamo Guy sure did wuss up awful quick-like. You gotta Harden The Fuck Up when the BG's are coming in. They ain't gonna take pity on your layin' on the ground, cryin' about your owie. Kinda showed what the guy is really made up, along with his throwing a fit while he was yellin' at Idiot Guy, tellin' him that he "*bleeped* up, man". If Alamo Guy was all technically savvy and such a bad ass, why didn't he initially account for the possibility of concussive damage in the confined space of the blind...?

I'm kinda dreading and looking forward to the next episode w/the technically savvy guy mentioned above. Looks like it has potential to be very kewel to watch - or extremely cringe-worthy.
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I have to take concern with the Mad Max bros. They're area is a fucking mess. I wouldn't be surprised if they have a serious infestation somewhere. That entire compound had a bunch of shit all over it. Sorry, that's a breeding ground for all sort of nasties. There are so many areas there that could contribute to the possibility of unecessary injuries. IF they're concerned with raiders why are they providing them with so many areas of good cover so close to their compound?
Then their bus bug out was fail. They didn't have a scout and they positioned the vehicles in front of the buses. Okay, how are they supposed to drive off with trucks in front of their vehicles. IMO they're making serious mistakes and their plan has serious errors.
^^^ This! ^^^ While they certainly seemed to have it all together, I wasn't overly imperssed w/their compound in particular. They needed to work on their tactics a bit, as well.
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Post by incogneato » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:27 pm

Griffworks wrote:Kinda showed what the guy is really made up, along with his throwing a fit while he was yellin' at Idiot Guy, tellin' him that he "*bleeped* up, man".
My favorite bit of that little tirade was him saying "I'm going to have to let you go". As clear a definition of a relationship as I've ever heard.
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Post by Griffworks » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:41 pm

Yeah, that kinda got me chucklin', too. They obviously weren't buds and I kinda felt sorry for Idiot Guy for how he came across as wanting to be something more than an asset to Alamo Guy. In fact, it seemed like Alamo Guy was keeping his distance from Idiot Guy on an emotional level. Sorta like A Boss does to an employee.

Oh, and was I seeing things correctly in the scenes w/the local Sheriff Department guys? It looked like everyone had real firearms in-hand - none of them looked like airsoft and they definitely weren't simunition pieces. I get the concept of "train as you fight" and applaud Alamo Guy for being able to swing the local constabulary to help in a staged assault, but a bunch of civilians and LEO with what looked like real firearms in a scenario training just wasn't all that good an idea to my thinking. I almost expected someone to end up being shot - or at least we'd see an ND at some point.
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Post by Iowa_guy » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:48 am

Griffworks wrote:Yeah, that kinda got me chucklin', too. They obviously weren't buds and I kinda felt sorry for Idiot Guy for how he came across as wanting to be something more than an asset to Alamo Guy. In fact, it seemed like Alamo Guy was keeping his distance from Idiot Guy on an emotional level. Sorta like A Boss does to an employee.

Oh, and was I seeing things correctly in the scenes w/the local Sheriff Department guys? It looked like everyone had real firearms in-hand - none of them looked like airsoft and they definitely weren't simunition pieces. I get the concept of "train as you fight" and applaud Alamo Guy for being able to swing the local constabulary to help in a staged assault, but a bunch of civilians and LEO with what looked like real firearms in a scenario training just wasn't all that good an idea to my thinking. I almost expected someone to end up being shot - or at least we'd see an ND at some point.
+1 to that.

I also have serious reservations with giving his little kid (7ish) a gun and having him involved in the drill. Just seems like a lot to put on someone so young. I would much rather my kid learn to hunker down and wait it out. Additionally did anyone note how the show described that kids little Ruger as a small "sniper rifle". :clownshoes:

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Post by URBAN ASSAULT » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:04 pm

I think I would have seriously pulled the ripcord on the whole stupid thing as soon as AlamoGuy, Aunt Beru and the younglings threw down on me at the front gate with real FUCKING GUNS!

That idea's a non-starter right there, because if you point a gun at me(and my family) out of the blue, I'm damn sure gonna point a gun at you, and it's not going to be for any stupid role-playing scenario either.

People who act that way with firearms make me suspect the level of their maturity, so how could I expect to rely on them in a real crisis situation?

AlamoGuy had a fine setup for sure, but to give out both the town his BOL was associated with AND a Google satellite view of the property showing county roads? Sheer stupidity in motion, because if and when the PAW arrives I wonder exactly how long AlamoGuy will be the current occupant of that sweet compound.

Hopefully he hasn't gotten his entire family murdered or enslaved, just so he could have his big 'ol hat prattle and preen about how well-prepared they are on national television.

People like this better hope & pray there isn't a complete breakdown in the social compact, because without some form of law enforcement to protect them they are truly going to be eaten alive by evil people, and I ain't talking about zombies.

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Post by incogneato » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:52 pm

URBAN ASSAULT wrote:AlamoGuy had a fine setup for sure, but to give out both the town his BOL was associated with AND a Google satellite view of the property showing county roads? Sheer stupidity in motion, because if and when the PAW arrives I wonder exactly how long AlamoGuy will be the current occupant of that sweet compound.
That's been one of my big beefs with the show the whole time. There have been a few folks here and there that have been intentionally vague, but there have been a lot that gave out plenty enough info to track them down. Wouldn't surprise me to find out that there were folks out there that took the trouble to find exactly where some of them are. They may very well find themselves competing for a bug out location.
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Post by Happy Go Lucky » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:41 pm

I liked Incognito's idea: "They need to get an all-stars Doomsday Preppers/Man vs. Wild mashup going. There would be more nudity, carnage, and firearms accidents than you could shake a stick at."

Now that's a show I would watch!
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URBAN ASSAULT wrote:AlamoGuy had a fine setup for sure, but to give out both the town his BOL was associated with AND a Google satellite view of the property showing county roads? Sheer stupidity in motion, because if and when the PAW arrives I wonder exactly how long AlamoGuy will be the current occupant of that sweet compound.
He'll still be there. They’ll need to keep him around as a food taster…

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Post by Keith B » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:20 pm

incogneato wrote:
Griffworks wrote:Kinda showed what the guy is really made up, along with his throwing a fit while he was yellin' at Idiot Guy, tellin' him that he "*bleeped* up, man".
My favorite bit of that little tirade was him saying "I'm going to have to let you go". As clear a definition of a relationship as I've ever heard.
I have seen this in real life too. The guy with the money is only in it for himself. He poisoned his food, he has hired guns that exist only at his blessing. He is not in it to help others in any way. He even said he wouldnt let strangers in because they would dwindle his FOUR YEAR food supply. It takes a community to survive, and when his well breaks down, or he runs out of goats to slaughter, he has to come back to town. What happens than? Nobody in town knows him, or he is the craxy wacko that doesnt want to be a part of the solution. So he either A0 gets no help, or B) pays two or three times the going rate for it.

edit: my original point-
The guy hanging around with him is doing it bacause he does not have the resources that alamo guy does. SO he let himself get put into serfdom just to have a BOL, one that he has no stake in and can be asked to leave at a moments notice.
So yes, serfdom can even happen before the paw.
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URBAN ASSAULT wrote:AlamoGuy had a fine setup for sure, but to give out both the town his BOL was associated with AND a Google satellite view of the property showing county roads? Sheer stupidity in motion, because if and when the PAW arrives I wonder exactly how long AlamoGuy will be the current occupant of that sweet compound.
He'll still be there. They’ll need to keep him around as a food taster…
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Post by AnonEmous » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:25 am

Griffworks wrote: I never did really get why the Alamo Guy poisoned - what was it 10%? - of his food stores. I mean, I get the basic "scorched earth" concept, but to apparently be keeping which containers were bad to himself?
I figure possibly one explanation for the "poisoning" is because of this:
URBAN ASSAULT wrote: AlamoGuy had a fine setup for sure, but to give out both the town his BOL was associated with AND a Google satellite view of the property showing county roads? Sheer stupidity in motion, because if and when the PAW arrives I wonder exactly how long AlamoGuy will be the current occupant of that sweet compound. .
It may have been a simple ploy to provide some kind of reasonable doubt to people if/when they try to show up. He mentioned he did not disclose all his plans. This is probably giving him way too much credit after taking all of his other plans, ideas, demonstrated actions, and statements into account.
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Post by incogneato » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:53 am

AnonEmous wrote:
Griffworks wrote:It may have been a simple ploy to provide some kind of reasonable doubt to people if/when they try to show up. He mentioned he did not disclose all his plans. This is probably giving him way too much credit after taking all of his other plans, ideas, demonstrated actions, and statements into account.
This is a double-edged sword, of course. Now that the entire world knows that he's poisoned some portion of his supplies, any potential invaders also know that they need to keep him alive long enough to get the info out of him.

They also seem to have gone to a bit of trouble to point out the optimal timing to get up to some shenanigans, as he was clearing the houses by himself with everyone else safely locked in the BOV and the other family had yet to arrive. The whole thing just creeps me out the more I think about it. I would like to think that it was all just an elaborate setup to get the bad guys into the appropriate place/time to deal with them swiftly, but this is likely giving entirely too much credit.
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Post by jclaudii » Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:23 am

After looking at the other thread(I know there are a lot) I picked this one as having the most recent timestamp. http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopi ... &start=240" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If any of you have never caught a episode or two of Extreme Couponing, I HIGHLY suggest you check it out. I believe it is a TLC program, but there are a few episodes on Netflix. Since the air of the series, a lot of the big stores have put limits and protections in place to prevent this sort of thing on this crazy of a scale. It was a good thing until the show exposed how "good" it could be to the customer but possibly bad to the retailers giving the coupons away. Some of the pantries, garages, and entire houses...even under kids beds, will put the food storage porn thread to shame. These folks are preppers and don't even know it. They are not portrayed as crazy, perhaps sometimes a bit OCD, but basically portrays them as accomplishing a huge feat. And getting a 1k grocery/etc bill down to $100 bucks or less is VERY impressive. Even the people who buy the stuff says they will never use all of this. I understand hanging on to food, but I really HOPE these same people will donate their unwanteds or "will never use" to local shelters and needy programs. Even I donate cereal and canned goods that are close to expire to local programs.

About the show, I have seen most, still catching up on this season, but I am impressed with all I have learned about what the show does and ask of people to how they are portrayed. Even the FAIL parts have good teaching skills to people who don't know any better. If they would make this interactive by involving twitter/facebook/and their own blog/forum on natgeo so users can talk to the people on the show and even the "experts". This way a noob can find out why dudes thumb got blown off and how easily it could have been avoided, how Megan could have not looked so much like a target when bugging out, etc and possibly leading people to sites like this or other prepping minded sites. It is a show and it is entertaining to see how REAL people do things compared to me yelling at how the characters on Walking Dead are making huge mistakes!

I will admit I think they made the young kid from texas look a little unbalanced and immature in his plans. He kept referring to the food stores as HIS food preps, His bug Out Bag, His Bug out Team and Location. Come to find out later in that episode he has a couple of brothers...and then says he would not bug out with his mom! In a emergency I would hope he would share those food stores with his family. I understand if speed is a necessity like to get help or medicine, but family usually sticks together and he could be teaching his whole family these skills. Also, he lives in a Small pop town, he could easily find the expertise in the old population, or his grandpa to do a garden and some livestock...but that is not as cool as a knife that straps to your forearm!

I'll keep watching when I can as it is entertaining and you do get to learn by picking it apart. Just remember it is a show :)

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Re: Doomsday Preppers

Post by Griffworks » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:40 pm

CaptBrainFreeze wrote:Bryan May doesn't prep for a New Madrid fault quake. Another example of them being forced to pick to make it look more interesting. He was highly upset about things that were assured to him were off record, then all the sudden wasn't. Same story over and over. I've had the chance to talk to most of those appearing on the pilot, season one and the current as well. Most of the time, saaaame story. Millions of questions, wear you down, try to get you to slip up.

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Curious to know a couple things, if I may ask....

1) What does Brian May prep for? Just prep's in general?

2) What do you do that you have contact w/these people? You've mentioned a couple of times now that you've had contact w/some of the folks who've been on DDP, but if you expressed how you've had that contact I must've missed it. I'm not challenging your information or anything, just curious to know.

3) Is there a source for hearing from these folks after the fact that we can read/view wherein some of them might be setting the record straight? Do any of them have a YouTube channel or video of which you're aware?
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