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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:33 pm 
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Ok, I watched the premier of the new series last night with my wife...

I also watched the original way back when, but wasn't really able to examine it critically at the time.

So, last night, watching the premiere, several things jumped out me...

1.) They refer to themselves, in English, as the Visitors... Ok, ignoring the fact that they speak English (and every other language on the planet), the closest thing that they can translate the name of their culture to is 'Visitors'? It's almost as if they're TRYING to make us think they're just here for a visit, then leaving, just like they announced they were. So, every time you talk about them, it reinforces the fact that they're only here briefly.

2.) They can cure 65 diseases completely, because they've already done it. And they want to give us these treatments. Ok, if they are humans, I might be able to buy this, assuming you're not talking about diseases which are caused by environmental vectors (virii, bacterium, etc). If they ARE human, then somebody's got some 'splaining to do.

3.) You've got 39 ships hovering over major metropolitan centers, and, oh, they're sorry they didn't mean to frighten us... First, those ships aren't all that big... Yeah, they're flying over the cities, but they LOOK like they're roughly the size of an aircraft carrier each. And there's a lot of open space inside of them. So, where exactly are they going to store whatever it is they needed to come across light years to get. And notice we still have no explanation of what happened to those fighters? Something took them out.

So, at the end of a month, I'm noticing embassies going in, a bunch of giveaways, some kind of ambassador program with snazzy threads... And, I'm not trusting a bit of it.

I'm not going to be setting up any resistance cells or anything (nor joining any), and I'm not going to say a word about my concerns to any co-workers, but I am going to be continuing my preps (cash only at this point for certain things), avoiding certain sections of the net from home, because I'm betting their IT is far better than ours and until I do trust them, which is going to be a while, I'm going to be concerned...

History is littered with the results of what happens when a more technologically advanced society comes into contact with a less advanced one.

Anybody else catch anything? And what would you be doing at this point in that verse?

Anyway, not a bad setup episode... I'll keep watching.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:46 pm 
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I noticed a couple of things.
1. They need to explain why they look like us.
2. Saying they believed in a religion that is at least somewhat compatible with our world religion would obviously go a long to settling people's fears.
If I were a V, I would say something like, "We were all created by All Father (or the Most High, or the Great One, etc)." This expresses a belief in a monotheistc, yet generic god which could be interepreted as Allah or Yahweh thus encompassing Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. This would also explain why we look alike. And I can't believe someone hasn't fired off a nuke at these dudes.

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Link to whatever you're talking about or it didn't happen.

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My son and I both agreed that someone (probably us) would have fired missiles at them within the first few minutes.

Good show. I watched the original back in the 80's and I thought this was a good updating to the series.


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I saw the 9 minute preview and saw the scene where the F16 crashed in downtown. It looks like the Visitors have an EMP weapon, so their mother ship could have a forcefield, or shielded against conventional weapons, ray shields against laser rays and proton torpedoes.

Where is Rogue Squadron when you need them?

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makes me wonder how many F-15s were knocked out during the initial landings. We only saw one crash during the first few minutes.


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Smitherman wrote:
My son and I both agreed that someone (probably us) would have fired missiles at them within the first few minutes.

Good show. I watched the original back in the 80's and I thought this was a good updating to the series.


Yeah, like from a jet fighter... oh wait...

BTW, Wash! YAY! Oh, they killed Wash... boo

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He just can't seem to stay alive, the bum!

Looks like, from the previews of next week's episode, maybe he was merely wounded.

"But I stabbed you right through the middle!"

"'Tis only a flesh wound!"

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i had watched the old one when i was a kid (90's) the local video store had it. its funny how there like oh we can cure you & help you out in every way because were so much smarter then you & all you owe us in return is some fuel stuff cause ummm were low on gas. but hey to serve man what could be wrong with that

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I know we don't discuss politics here, but I couldn't help but notice how the Vs plan on using universal health care and a positive media portrayal to gain control of the populace.

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Lol this show is a good reason why I don't like aliens (of the lizard, Acid blood kind).
I was discussing with a friend what would really happen if they tried this. Our conclusion was some country would gank them and take their stuff and salvage the rest.

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JCgoose wrote:
Lol this show is a good reason why I don't like aliens (of the lizard, Acid blood kind).
I was discussing with a friend what would really happen if they tried this. Our conclusion was some country would gank them and take their stuff and salvage the rest.


exactly. God forbid one of those ships landed above some place like somalia.


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gelgoog wrote:
JCgoose wrote:
Lol this show is a good reason why I don't like aliens (of the lizard, Acid blood kind).
I was discussing with a friend what would really happen if they tried this. Our conclusion was some country would gank them and take their stuff and salvage the rest.


exactly. God forbid one of those ships landed above some place like somalia.


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Yarr we be space pirates now!

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zombiesean wrote:
i had watched the old one when i was a kid (90's) the local video store had it. its funny how there like oh we can cure you & help you out in every way because were so much smarter then you & all you owe us in return is some fuel stuff cause ummm were low on gas. but hey to serve man what could be wrong with that


The Vs are pretty similar to Ravenwood in Jericho in this sense. They "want" to help, but really, they're full of trouble


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