Just finished reading One Second After

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Re: Just finished reading One Second After

Postby DrGonzo » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:58 am

TacAir wrote:I don't want to hijack this thread, but I cannot pass on the "Patriots' comment.

I read the book, then threw it away. There is so much outdated or just plain dangerous stuff discussed on the book - I didn't want to get anyone hurt. Anyone is free to read it of course, and take their chances....

All the Sovereign Citizen crap was just another reason to toss it. I would strongly suggest you check a second source or a primary document before you try anything in the book.

/end thread hijack


Thread re-jacked.

I don't hate "Patriots", I appreciate it for what it is and I understand that it's trying to fit the a survival manual into a novel. But the narrative suffers from a complete lack of editing. Also, Rawles just describes each character, one after the other, dedicating about a paragraph to each and pretty much calls it a day. The characters are so two-dimensional that I had to keep a cheat sheet to remember who-was-who, but I soon realized that it really doesn't matter; they're all pretty much interchangeable. But the two most baffling parts of the book:

Cannibal Communists

and the two completely unrelated chapter about two characters named Matt & Chase Keane who are very obviously based on Cheyne & Chevie Kehoe.

These guys. :shock:

I won't go any further about that part of the book or the two it's clearly based upon since I'd be breaking forum rules. That part of the book makes it hard for me to recommend it to anyone, especially newbies to prepping.

/Unjacked.

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Re: Just finished reading One Second After

Postby AeroRat » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:58 pm

For raising public awareness that an EMP attack would suck? Yup. This book is good for that.

As an interesting story...not so much. I'm not an action fiend, but crap. Did anything in this book happen in real time? I'm trying to recall, but I don't think so. Instead of watching the world come apart we hear about it after the fact in city council meetings. When the author can't seem to summon his cardboard characters to adequately make the point, he references something external - sometimes pop culture, sometimes history. I think the latter is a legitimate storytelling device, but making comparisons to the horror at Gettysburg and expecting to the reader to fill in the gaps is disingenuous; I put money in the man's pocket I expect him to tell me a story, not to give me a read/watch list.

Less talk. More end of the world.

In that vein, more characters would have been nice. And by characters I mean fictional semblances of humanity that aren't filed and cataloged by name/grade/service/war. Military service is grand. It's not a substitute for developing the realistic people needed to propel the story. At no point should a reader encounter the death of a character and go "Oh...huh" and move on. If the passing of a major character doesn't throw a hitch in there, you're doing it wrong. You can't really expect tears when a cardboard cutout goes down, and this book had cardboard cutouts to spare.

If you really want to horrify people - to get their attention with the severity of the situation - you need more stuff like the scenes in the nursing home. Visceral, vivid scenes that stay with the reader well after they've moved on.

I wanted to like this one, but...no dice. Good premise that exceeded the author's abilities to keep it ticking.

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Re: Just finished reading One Second After

Postby Laager » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:04 pm

James Wesley Rawles' New Book: "Survivors"

The inherent political and economic instability of our present time has been the subject of many books, some of which are marketed as fiction, while others are presented as nonfiction. As is often the case in times of civilizational crisis, the authors of fiction may actually have a more realistic understanding of the actual "facts on the ground" — and the substantial causes of a civilization’s woes — than is presented by the self-described political elite in their purportedly factual writings. Thus, for example, historians may wear themselves out debating the historical accuracy of speeches recorded by Herodotus or Thucydides — what actually matters the most, to the modern reader, is that such speeches present him with an opportunity to reflect upon the Permanent Things.

James Wesley Rawles is certainly no Thucydides, but his "fiction" offers a vision of the chaos which may soon descend on American society with a closer conformity to the reality than that which is served up by the Pollyannas all along the Northeast corridor who are busy pushing a dream of permanent prosperity on the news networks. And Rawles does not offer his readers a bleak picture of a once-great nation’s descent into darkness and anarchy; his writings are full of guidance for those readers who are willing to make preparations to preserve a future for themselves and their families.

Survivors: A Novel of the Coming Collapse is the second volume in Rawles’ series of novels about the coming collapse of American society — and the global economy. Survivors — like his previous novel, Patriots — is set in the very near future, in a time which Rawles calls “The Crunch.” The Crunch is the time in which the all the “bills” of living in a post-industrial, post-agricultural nation built on fiat money have “come due.” With the vast majority of its citizens addicted to the unsustainable, post-modern “American way of life” — a life defined by an ignorance of actual life skills, unsustainable reliance of easy credit and a government committed to what is essentially "cradle-to-grave" government programs — the inevitable collapse of the Federal Reserve’s essentially worthless script leads to hyperinflation and the steady collapse of the “just in time” infrastructure essential to life in a consumer economy defined by “big box” stores. As American society quickly unravels under the stresses unleashed by currency devaluation, criminal gangs and various contending factions of the former governmental structure contend for legitimacy and power in the midst of the chaos. Rawles’ presentation of the “Provisional Government” of “president pro tempore” Maynard Hutchings demonstrates the author’s awareness of how tyrants behave when seeking to solidify their power: Hutchings causes a “large number of conservative members of Congress” to simply disappear, invites in U.N. peacekeeping forces, and establishes his own fiat currency by force of arms, even as he confiscates all weaponry which might be used to resist his illegitimate rule.

The primary character in Survivors is Andrew Laine, a young Army officer serving in Afghanistan at the beginning of the novel. The flow of the entire book is woven around largely around Laine’s effort to return to his family — and fiancée — in New Mexico after the Crunch has caused such a profound collapse in the infrastructure of the U.S. Armed Forces that Laine is left to his own devices to return home. Rawles’ presentation of Laine’s travels and travails is compelling, and certainly presents a courageous military officer in a light rarely seen in popular media: A committed Christian, Laine’s strives to uphold his moral standards in circumstances that are often quite challenging; he does not refrain from such violence as is necessary to preserve his own life, and the lives of others who are threatened by thugs or pirates.

It is worth noting that Rawles carefully avoids obscenities and blasphemy throughout Survivors — which is certainly a refreshing break from what has become commonplace in modern society. Sexual immorality is also absent from the pages of Survivors. In short, Rawles avoids the cheap thrills to which many writers succumb. Various characters directly cite and allude to passages from the Bible; Rawles’ use of such passages serves the plot and dialog. It should also be noted that each chapter begins with a citation from a wide variety of statesmen, poets, philosophers and other writers; many of these citations are so apropos that the reader is left wishing Rawles had provided specific references for more of the quotations.

Elements of the plot of Survivors are clearly developed to lead to further volumes in the series. Keeping track of the rather extensive list of characters is aided by inclusion of a list of Dramatis Personae; readers may find themselves consulting this list of 60 named characters, as they will also benefit from the author’s ten page glossary, which allows readers to traverse the “alphabet soup” of acronyms drawn from military, shortwave and other specialized communities.

In short, Rawles’ Survivors is well worth reading; astute readers may find themselves making notes of passages pertaining to survival planning which will be worth returning to once one has finished reading the novel. For readers who find themselves motivated to move from the realm of "fiction" to actually preparing for a wide variety of natural or manmade disasters —include one such as the Crunch — a good resource by Rawles is his nonfiction book published in 2009, How to Survive the End of the World as we Know It. Rawles' new novel is well-written and informative, and speaks with an honesty and bluntness often missing from the policy prognotications of the political elite.


http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/b ... survivorsq
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Re: Just finished reading One Second After

Postby NoAm » Tue May 01, 2012 1:03 pm

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Re: Just finished reading One Second After

Postby Warclaw » Tue May 01, 2012 7:14 pm

Laager wrote:James Wesley Rawles' New Book: "Survivors"

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How does posting a huge review written by someone else add to this discussion? Whoever wrote that review is a dolt. It's not an entertaining read. He spends about a page describing the characters, then writes entire chapters about how to install steel plates over your windows. Talk about lack of interest. Yawn.
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Re: Just finished reading One Second After

Postby Mudinyeri » Wed May 02, 2012 9:27 am

For those who enjoy this genre of books and are not yet aware of The Union Creek Journal, may I humbly suggest that you may very well enjoy The Journal. It's free for the reading on my website (I am the author). If you're just getting started, you'll want to read the entries in chronological order: http://unioncreekjournal.wordpress.com/ ... cal-order/

Once you get caught up, you can read each day's (except weekends) new entry on the main page of the site. You can also subscribe to be notified when a new entry is posted. No spam! I promise.

The Journal is the story of a man, David Johnson, and his family's struggles to survive in the wake of a global economic collapse. Most of The Journal is written by Johnson himself as a diary of sorts. However, there are several sub-plots that intertwine with the main plot chronicled by Johnson in his journal. The book touches on many layers of survival from the obvious physical challenges to the psychological and emotional trauma of having to do what is necessary to survive in what Johnson calls the "new normal".

The Johnsons thought they were prepared to survive, but they quickly find that there are some things for which you simply cannot prepare.

I hope you enjoy it.
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