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New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Tribunal Power » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:59 pm

I'm so happy.

Before I was ever a gun guy, I had two dream guns: the FN P90 and the Walther PPK. Since the FN P90 is not legal to own (without that hideous 13" schlong on the end... Personally I don't want to pay $1300 for a 13" schlong, but if that's your thing I'm not judging), when I became a "gun guy" I set my sights on that PPK.

For a while, I filed it in the caregory of "just too damn 'spensive" and forgot about it. But then, I had an incident at a gun store involving fingering a P-64. I realized I only liked the P-64 because it looked/felt like a PPK, and at that moment I decided I would get one immediately.

I traded in my Charter Arms Undercover .38spl and paid the difference on a steal of a price. Got $190 for my revolver (talked up from $175) and paid cash for the rest...

...She was $420 out the door, with two magazines. In very good condition, but in desperate need of a good clean and some minor buffing for surface scratches. Thanks, Bud's Guns in Lexington!

Walther PPK/S .380

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I will post 'AFTER' pics once she's all cleaned up, and a full range report once we go out for a date. Could this be love?

Ninja ETA: I say $420 was a steal of a price because even on gunbroker and on Bud's webpage, I wasn't finding any cheaper than $450 used... and that price was ~$100 cheaper than local stores.

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Kommander » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:27 pm

Neat. I have nothing else to add but this.
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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by yossarian » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:47 pm

If you've got larger hands you're going to want to do yourself a favor. Take the web of your right hand, between the thumb and forefinger, and slam it in a drawer a few times. That way you'll be ready when the hammer takes a hunk out of you. :gonk:


Seriously though, looks like a nice piece and a good deal. For absolutely no logical reason I've occasionally entertained thoughts of one as well. While I was reading this post my 3yo daughter came by and wanted a better look at the pics. She told me that she wants one when she gets big. Looks like I'll be buying one sooner or later.
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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Big B » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:02 pm

Congrats!

I've always liked the PPK, probably because of 007, but I've never been able to justify the price tag. Enjoy your new purchase :)
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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by xLionx » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:24 am

haha, i've been eye raping that gun on their website till you bought it


I was about to buy that pistol till I fired a friends ppk with some tulammo (it was all the store I went to had that was a 50 round box) and it had FTF 8 out of 14 rounds for me and 3 out of 7 for my other buddy, :( now I don't want a PPK as bad
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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by gelgoog » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:49 am

yossarian wrote:If you've got larger hands you're going to want to do yourself a favor. Take the web of your right hand, between the thumb and forefinger, and slam it in a drawer a few times. That way you'll be ready when the hammer takes a hunk out of you. :gonk:
That is exactly why I sold mine. It was down right painful to fire the damn thing, the DA trigger was unbelievably heavy and far too many sharp edges for such such an expensive pistol. They are one of the best looking pistols out there, but I was not impressed with the final execution. Mine was a S&W ppk/s so YMMV.

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by TacAir » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:48 am

Congrats.

My wifes first piece was a PPK/L - this was some time back, so it was German, made by Germans in Germany (stamped "Made in West Germany" ) - IWO. flawless fit and finish, and the pull was both smooth (like butter) and crisp letoff. No hammer bite.

The new ones are made by Smith and Wesson - using monkeys - yes?

Still the design has some history and it has the the whole cool 007 factor going for it

Looking forward to the range report..
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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Laconic 24 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:49 pm

Sounds like a good deal. My brother has one, and they are cool little guns. Only downside is that they can be flat out abusive on bigger hands.

And as my brother says, the advantage of carrying 007's gun is obvious; you never have to reload, you just straighten your tie :wink:

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by xLionx » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:17 pm

007

people forget it's also the gun Hitler used to kill himself

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Privateer73 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:36 pm

In 89 my sister graduated high school and for her graduation present from our dad was either a emerald ring or her choice of sidearm from the local shop. She went with the PPK/S and carried it till a few years ago when she started cowboy action shooting comps. Besides her comp rig of cross draw matched vaqueros in 45lc her dc is a compact sig in 40c.
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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by jeremy1391 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:29 am

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Tribunal Power » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:50 am

I did get a chance to take the gun to the range the other day, and I'll admit, on my first magazine it really did teach my hand a lesson. But after that I corrected my grip and it works just plain fine. I don't have large hands (they're actually quite small and dainty :oops: ) and the gun fits in my hand well.

I'm going to wait until my second trip to do a range report because (A) my performance with the gun on the first time was not impressive, and (B) the gun had some failures do to EXCESSIVELY filthy internals, especially the feed ramp. I don't think I've ever seen a gun so dirty. She's all cleaned up now-- took her completely apart and soaked most of it in Hoppes. Very shiny!

Also, as far as the manufacturing, it was made my Interarms in Alexandria before they closed down. This was before S&W started making them, as they are currently the only manufacturer. The Interarms PPKs have a better reputation for quality than the S&W models.

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by charlie505 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:36 am

yossarian wrote:If you've got larger hands you're going to want to do yourself a favor. Take the web of your right hand, between the thumb and forefinger, and slam it in a drawer a few times. That way you'll be ready when the hammer takes a hunk out of you. :gonk:

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I bought a very old one from a guy who has hands like hams! He had a beaver tail from a 1911 intalled on it - the gun smith did a good job - I have yet to be bit! Will try to post a picture or two.
But my PP bites me a lot!!

I never had any feed problems with mine as long as i good ammo and keep the gun lubed. The trigger does suck!

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Neville » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:58 pm

I recently purchased a P-64 (polish Radom) 9mm Mak - It seems nice (still in 10 day jail) and I can't wait to fire it. Hope I don't run into the pain issue. Recoil I can handle.... getting pinched/bit/smashed is a different story.

Nice gun, hope you enjoy it!

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Tribunal Power » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:01 pm

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Big B » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:32 pm

Nice looking PPK/s Tribunal Power!

Neville wrote:I recently purchased a P-64 (polish Radom) 9mm Mak - It seems nice (still in 10 day jail) and I can't wait to fire it. Hope I don't run into the pain issue. Recoil I can handle.... getting pinched/bit/smashed is a different story.

Nice gun, hope you enjoy it!
My P-64 hasn't caused my any pain while shooting it yet. Out of the box the trigger pull is pretty hard though. I would recomend getting some new springs from Wolf. I don't remember which weight of springs I put in my P-64, but they made a world of difference. Surplusrifleforum.com is a pretty good resource for more info about the P-64.
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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Neville » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:15 pm

Big B wrote:I would recomend getting some new springs from Wolf. I don't remember which weight of springs I put in my P-64, but they made a world of difference.
Got 'em, they arrived before the gun LOL. That trigger pull is notorious. Lucky I'm a Ruger revolver owner, it's not much of a change-up. :lol: Let's see what some fresh springs, a good lubing and some range time does for that.

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Neville » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:30 pm

Something a little different - The Noisy Cricket

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Remember the movie Men in Black a few years back? Rookie MIB Will Smith is issued as his first duty weapon a sidearm called "The Noisy Cricket"... The NC is seen to be an embarrassingly small pistol that ejects a tiny projectile at a ginormous velocity and consequently has the kick of a 20 mule team. Of course it does damage on the receiving end also resembling a small explosion.



Anyway, I've recently purchased but not yet held a firearm that some say is reminiscent of the Noisy Cricket... the milsurp P-64 pistol. It is frequently compared to other pistols chambered in 9x18 Makarov and sometimes mistakenly called "a Makarov". It actually has much more in common with the Walther PPK.



Depending on how it handles in my big spade-like hands, I may opt to use it as my warm-weather CCW piece. My wife and I are planning a trip to Arizona late this year, and we are getting together the paperwork for our AZ CCW which will also allow us to carry in Nevada (where we are a more frequent visitor) as well.



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It has a reputation for an unbelievable DA trigger pull, you could nearly do chin-ups on it. Wolf gun springs does make a spring kit that improves this aspect though. Not all that surprising for a very inexpensive milsurp pistol. Anyway, even if it proves unsuitable for CCW it will still have a place in my collection of milsurp firearms as an interesting Cold War relic.



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Well, I finally got to dros my pistol. When I got it, I was amazed to find that the stories of the extreme, heavy DA pull were innacurate. In fact, much to my surprise, I felt if anything they were understated. You pull the trigger... then keep pulling... then pull some more... check to see if the safety is on (it's not), grit your teeth, squint your eyes, damn this is hurting your finger by now, and just about the time you think your trigger finger is going to bleed, *click* and the hammer drops. You think I'm joking, you think I'm exaggerating, go buy one yourself and you'll see. Single action is quite nice though. I suppose it was made that way so that only in a true life/death struggle would anyone ever WANT to pull the trigger. Thing to keep in mind, there is no safe way to carry the pistol "off safe" and engaging the safety automatically decocks the pistol.



So, went with a buddy to the range. Loaded up a magazine, stepped to the line, ready, aim, fi.... OMG the gun blew up in my hand. Torn metal shards everywhere, I imagine, my hand a bloody stump on the end of my wrist... or so I thought... then I looked down, the gun's still there, my hand's still there, I almost wish it wasn't! The web of my hand is throbbing. After a second or two it quits hurting (a little) and I get up the nerve to fire another... OW! SAME THING! I thought I must have a slide bite or something... nope, not a scratch, but damn my hand feels like I just thwacked it with a hammer. Guys I'm not joking (well maybe just a teensy bit) but I have literally hit myself in the hand with a hammer and not had it hurt like that. I have a couple .44 magnums, and they NEVER hurt my hand like that! So I'm a big boy, I know what recoil is, but this was like nothing I ever encountered before. This thing needs to come with a warning from the Surgeon General! Not wanting to seem like a candy-ass to my range buddy, I sucked it up and fired two full magazines. After the first 3-4 rounds you become a little used to it, like a battered wife. You can only get knocked upside the haid with a 2x4 so many times before it quits hurting as much. You get a little knumb, I dunno, maybe nerve damage or just losing the will to care. Or endorphins... yeah, that's my story, endorphins. The gun does seem to fit my hand ok, it's just so small and light it's like setting off a round in the palm of your hand. I'll be keeping it, because as a general rule I don't sell guns ("from my cold dead hands") but man I don't think this one will be seeing much range time!



I think "Noisy Cricket" sums it up adequately. Caveat emptor.

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Michael2007 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:52 pm

I could have sworn I was just being a pansy. Everytime I fire that damn thing I experience that same great pain in the web of my hand. Mine is on permanent loan from my dad. I am pretty sure for the 007 appeal lol. So there is no way I could get rid of it and it has a special place in my heart. Also if I ever am carrying my PPK/S and step out of the car, I just carry it condition one, because I know there is no way I would ever possibly be accurate with that double action pull. Image

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Kommander » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:16 pm

These PPK/S need more suppressors!
Why must all the hoops be on fire?

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Tribunal Power » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:42 pm

Since this thread was revived, I'll update on my PPK/s.

It is now my carry piece for when I'm wearing something that makes it harder to conceal my XD45 or if I just don't feel like lugging a .45 in my jeans. I've given it some rangetime, now-- about 200 rounds total-- and have gotten pretty accurate with it. I am confident that, within three yards, I can get all my shots on target off the draw.

I have to say, although I was intimidated by the damage this tends to do to my hand, I've become comfortable with it. At first it hurt like hell-- being unaware of it actually tore a hole in my knuckle-- but after the first trip I adjusted my grip a little bit to accomodate for it, and it still isn't comfy, but it's better.

Overall, I'm happy with it. It's reliable, it's light, it's accurate. It isn't worth full price, I'd say, but I didn't pay full price. :P I'll be keeping this pistol.

Also, I'm EAGERLY awaiting my Gun Nut holster for it-- an IWB/paddle hybrid. I'll post pics when I get it!

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by maldon007 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:46 pm

With my screen name, you KNOW I like it 8-)
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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by Tribunal Power » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:59 pm

maldon007 wrote:With my screen name, you KNOW I like it 8-)
:lol: Yeah, it will always have cool points for being 007's weapon.

My friend was like, "Why would you want that gun? That's the gun Hitler killed himself with..."

To which I replied, "I know, this gun killed Hitler! It also killed Scaramanga and countless henchmen-- what's not to like?"

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Re: New to Me: Walther PPK/S!

Post by ei8htx » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:53 pm

xLionx wrote:
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