1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

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1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Anlushac11 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:14 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9VXNvcSO9A

Seems you need to modify and create a tab to let the 1911 magazine work in the Hi-Point pistol.

IIRC Hi-Point uses same magazine on pistol and carbine which leads me to...

A 40 round drum magazine for the 1911? (Crap anyone besides Promag? )

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That gives a potential for a Hi-Point 45cal carbine with 40 rounds of magazine capacity? Lots of Zombie stopping power there.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Stercutus » Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:29 am

Good to know. My second gun purchase on return will be the Hi-Point 4595TS. I will put it right next to the 995. The prices should have dropped off the crazy gun broker prices by then:

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At that price I can almost get a Marlin Camp. I am thinking a price point closer to $250 or less is more in line with the HiPoint quality.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by KentsOkay » Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:52 am

I dunno if I'd trust a Hi-Point for that many rounds that fast....
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Anlushac11 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:05 pm

Doesnt look like the 40 round mag will fit at least not without modifying the base. Seems the 1911 mags sit deep inside the handle, the plastic bit at the top of the drum is expected to interfere with the magazine seating properly.

Largest extended mag for 1911 I have seen yet is 12 rounds...still looking.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by doc66 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:54 pm

Anlushac11 wrote:Doesnt look like the 40 round mag will fit at least not without modifying the base. Seems the 1911 mags sit deep inside the handle, the plastic bit at the top of the drum is expected to interfere with the magazine seating properly.

Largest extended mag for 1911 I have seen yet is 12 rounds...still looking.
Check Triple K. They used to make 15 and 20 round extended mags for the 1911.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Stercutus » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:07 am

Actually there was a 50 round stick. I have not seen one new since shortly after the 92' ban. Sometimes you see them in the back of Shotgun News. Terrible functioning because of the weight of the rounds was too much for a fully loaded mag to be reliable.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Aikibiker » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:33 pm

I would like to know if the mag will still work with a 1911 after the modification. It would make the Hi Point Carbine ar very attractive trunk gun for anyone that CCWs a 1911 on a daily basis if the magazines interchanged freely.

I have always wondered why Hi Point doesn't make a hi-cap version of their carbines using magazines from popular CCW weapons. An inexpensive .40 carbine that takes Glock or M&P magazines (with a grip short enough to use the magazines from the compact models) would probably sell quite well in some circles.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by mattdcknsn » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:45 pm

Aikibiker wrote:I have always wondered why Hi Point doesn't make a hi-cap version of their carbines using magazines from popular CCW weapons. An inexpensive .40 carbine that takes Glock or M&P magazines (with a grip short enough to use the magazines from the compact models) would probably sell quite well in some circles.
From what I've read and heard (nothing reliable) is that the company does not want to get their firearms classified as an assault weapon. So they max the magazine's at 10. I agree with you, even if they offered a 15 round mag it would make it so much more fun.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Big B » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:02 pm

Aikibiker wrote:I would like to know if the mag will still work with a 1911 after the modification. It would make the Hi Point Carbine ar very attractive trunk gun for anyone that CCWs a 1911 on a daily basis if the magazines interchanged freely.
Big plus one!
If modified 1911 mags reliably function in the Hi-Point Carbine AND my 1911's I would totally buy a Hi-Point 4595TS! I should add I wouldn't want to pay more than $250-300 for one though :wink:
Aikibiker wrote:I have always wondered why Hi Point doesn't make a hi-cap version of their carbines using magazines from popular CCW weapons. An inexpensive .40 carbine that takes Glock or M&P magazines (with a grip short enough to use the magazines from the compact models) would probably sell quite well in some circles.
I brought this point up in another thread not too long ago. IMHO Hi-Point would sell a lot of carbines if the made versions that accepted mags from Glock, Sig, H&K, Springfield, etc..... as long as they keep the prices reasonable. I would probably get one for the wife to use with her Glock.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by ultra magnus » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:18 pm

Anlushac11 wrote:Doesnt look like the 40 round mag will fit at least not without modifying the base. Seems the 1911 mags sit deep inside the handle, the plastic bit at the top of the drum is expected to interfere with the magazine seating properly.

Largest extended mag for 1911 I have seen yet is 12 rounds...still looking.

Should just be able to cut down the grip like they do with the Keltek Sub2K. The Highpoint carbines are neat little blasters when you can find them at reasonable prices, but the ones I always seem to find are expensive enough that you could get a Sub2k which seems to be a better choice if they are the same price.

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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Jeriah » Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:15 pm

Redesigning the Hi-Point to feed from double-stack mags would be basically a ground-up redesign. Single-stack and double-stack mags feed differently, so you can't just jam a double-stack mag into a Hi-Point and expect it to work. The reason, I've heard, that the single-stack AKs can be reamed out to take double-stack mags is that the AK was originally a double-stack design, so the neutered ones can be converted back easily. The Hi-Point has always been single-stack so this wouldn't work.

Redesigning it to accept 1911 mags should be easy as hell, however. As would be redesigning the 9mm model to feed from a common 9mm single-stack magazine.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Aikibiker » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:07 pm

Jeriah wrote:Redesigning the Hi-Point to feed from double-stack mags would be basically a ground-up redesign. Single-stack and double-stack mags feed differently, so you can't just jam a double-stack mag into a Hi-Point and expect it to work. The reason, I've heard, that the single-stack AKs can be reamed out to take double-stack mags is that the AK was originally a double-stack design, so the neutered ones can be converted back easily. The Hi-Point has always been single-stack so this wouldn't work.

Redesigning it to accept 1911 mags should be easy as hell, however. As would be redesigning the 9mm model to feed from a common 9mm single-stack magazine.

That is only true for rifle magazines which alternate feeding from the right and left hand side of the magazine. This makes double feed ramps or an exceptionally large ramp that allows rounds to funnel in from either side. Handgun magazines tend to feed from the center whether they are single or double stack. This allows pistols to with such a magazine to have a single small feed ramp funnel rounds up from teh bottom center position of the ramp.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by doc66 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:46 pm

Aikibiker wrote:I would like to know if the mag will still work with a 1911 after the modification. It would make the Hi Point Carbine ar very attractive trunk gun for anyone that CCWs a 1911 on a daily basis if the magazines interchanged freely.

I have always wondered why Hi Point doesn't make a hi-cap version of their carbines using magazines from popular CCW weapons. An inexpensive .40 carbine that takes Glock or M&P magazines (with a grip short enough to use the magazines from the compact models) would probably sell quite well in some circles.
Since the factory is about two miles from my front door, I'll answer this one; you have to pay the company for the trademark rights to use their magazine design. When Hi-Point/Stallard Arms was starting out, it was less expensive for them to design their own magazine to keep costs down than to use an existing magazine and pay Smith and Wesson or Beretta their cut. They've just kind of kept with that trend to keep the cost of the firearm affordable. Now why they don't just use a 1911 mag, which is pretty much universal, I'm not sure. But at the time they were starting out, the factory rep gave me this explanation (they were also only producing a 9mm handgun at the time).

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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Absintheur » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:54 am

Most of the hi cap single stack 1911 mags out there had functioning problems, see them having FTF's constantly at the competitions at our range. I have only seen one of the Pro Mag drums...didn't work in the 4 1911's we tried it in and it wouldn't feed in a Marlin Camp rifle either. Only high cap mag I have seen that works consistently is the Taylor Mk II. It is a 28 round drum made in the 70's. If you can find one for sale ( good luck there) expect to pay a high premium for it.

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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Jeriah » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:36 am

Absintheur wrote:Most of the hi cap single stack 1911 mags out there had functioning problems, see them having FTF's constantly at the competitions at our range. I have only seen one of the Pro Mag drums...didn't work in the 4 1911's we tried it in and it wouldn't feed in a Marlin Camp rifle either. Only high cap mag I have seen that works consistently is the Taylor Mk II. It is a 28 round drum made in the 70's. If you can find one for sale ( good luck there) expect to pay a high premium for it.

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Post by Absintheur » Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:04 pm

It gets used mainly in my Mech Tech Conversion. I am almost surprised no one has geared up to make these again.
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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by run faster » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:36 pm

so its been almost two years and theres still no development in this is there?

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Post by Valarius » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:16 pm

Heh. It's now 2016 and there's still no development in this thread.
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Well I read about these guys , earlier in the year http://redballsports.net/index.html


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Post by Stercutus » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:44 pm

Never did buy that HiPoint. Kind of gave up on PCCs when the .300BO came into my life. I think Jeriah's membership expired too.
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Post by Mad Mike » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:22 pm

Stercutus wrote:Never did buy that HiPoint. Kind of gave up on PCCs when the .300BO came into my life. I think Jeriah's membership expired too.


Maybe the zombies over ran his position??? :wink:

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Post by yossarian » Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:00 pm

Mad Mike wrote:
Stercutus wrote:Never did buy that HiPoint. Kind of gave up on PCCs when the .300BO came into my life. I think Jeriah's membership expired too.


Maybe the zombies over ran his position??? :wink:

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Post by Stercutus » Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:31 pm

Mad Mike wrote:
Stercutus wrote:Never did buy that HiPoint. Kind of gave up on PCCs when the .300BO came into my life. I think Jeriah's membership expired too.


Maybe the zombies over ran his position??? :wink:
Could be, we will never know for certain.

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Re: 1911 mags can be modified to fit in the Hi-Point 4595TS

Post by Mad Mike » Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:40 pm

Stercutus wrote:Never did buy that HiPoint. Kind of gave up on PCCs when the .300BO came into my life. I think Jeriah's membership expired too.

I suspect I'll regret this, but how does a lifetime membership expire?

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