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Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by Torvald » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:45 am

I'm looking for a solution to my mag release problem. I have short finger and can not reach even my extended mag release with out twisting the gun in my hand. This is a poor option, as the gun is not in a very firm grip and could easily be dislodged.

Trying to find a better option, I've been think of moving the release to the other side of the gun but that puts it under my trigger finger, easy to reach but also easy to drop the mag accidentally. The other plan is modding up some "new" kind of extended release that will reach aprox. half way across the grip.

Any ideas?

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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by FreuderLocks » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:49 am

Torvald wrote:I'm looking for a solution to my mag release problem. I have short finger and can not reach even my extended mag release with out twisting the gun in my hand. This is a poor option, as the gun is not in a very firm grip and could easily be dislodged.

Trying to find a better option, I've been think of moving the release to the other side of the gun but that puts it under my trigger finger, easy to reach but also easy to drop the mag accidentally. The other plan is modding up some "new" kind of extended release that will reach aprox. half way across the grip.

Any ideas?

Check out Magpul's "art of the dynamic handgun", they suggest rotating the weapon in your weapon hand with your reaction hand so that you can reach the mag release with your weapon hand. Although it takes your barrel off target it is a reliable way to reach the release, it also puts your weaopon in a good position to receive a fresh mag. Insert mag, rotate weapon back to target and drop the slide, resume firing.
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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by Torvald » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:07 am

FreuderLocks wrote: Check out Magpul's "art of the dynamic handgun", they suggest rotating the weapon in your weapon hand with your reaction hand so that you can reach the mag release with your weapon hand. Although it takes your barrel off target it is a reliable way to reach the release, it also puts your weaopon in a good position to receive a fresh mag. Insert mag, rotate weapon back to target and drop the slide, resume firing.
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Found the a bit of the video on line, that's exactly how I do it now. Just seems odd taking the gun off target to load it.

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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by Phoenix David » Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:36 am

Hopefully when it's time to reload there is no target or you have taken cover to do your reload. :)

But the time off target should be minimal and it is empty so it's not doing you any good pointing at the target in that state.
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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by Haji » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:54 pm

If its time to reload, then reload. Having an empty gun towards the target means jack squat. Your task is to get the gun back in action. The method you're using is proven and accepted. Stick with it.
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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by pharazon » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:19 pm

Keeping the muzzle on target isn't worth much with an empty gun in a combat situation, as your target isn't likely to stop and wait for you to reload.

Practice with the method you're currently utilizing until you're proficient.
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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by Matt E. » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:17 pm

I'll echo what some have said already. The need to keep the gun pointed at the bad guy while reloading is some old school non-sense. Having to move the gun in your shooting hand to reach the mag release is as old a problem as the semi-auto pistol it's self. Only those with frying pans for hands avoid this. Pulling with your non-shooting hand is common as control of the gun is paramount. As long as you avoid "flipping it" with one hand, you'll be fine.

What type of Man Gun do you have as some come with an "ever so slightly extended" mag release now.
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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by Torvald » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:43 am

Matt E. wrote: What type of Man Gun do you have as some come with an "ever so slightly extended" mag release now.

Should have posted that before, Full size Springfield 1911.

Guess I'll stick with what's working now.

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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by Matt E. » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:24 am

Rog, keep your TTP. However, Kimber, Wilson, and many others make a mag release that I describe above. I looks the same, but is slightly extended, but not obtrusive. It will take less then a minute to change out, and lesson the amount you have to move the gun. If you are going to roll with a 1911, I highly recomend it.
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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by agent-smith » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:38 am

Matt E. wrote:...What type of Man Gun do you have as some come with an "ever so slightly extended" mag release now.
I agree wholeheartedly with your referring to the 1911 as Man Gun.
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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by Raydarkhorse » Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:49 am

Taking your weapon off the target when swapping mags should be a normal way to do things. If you are in a fire fight you do not want to stay exsposed while reloading, and if you can aim your wepon at the target you are exsposed. It should be an automatic reaction to seek cover, or at the very least concealment while reloading. If there is no cover or concealment reloading as quickly as possible is your only viable option. If that means standing on your head with your eyes closed while someone spins you like a top thats what you do. Almost all reloading techniques require you to shift the muzzzle of your weapon. Practice Practice Practice changing your mags and bringing it back to bear on target is the only fix.

My hands are fairly small and my primary handgun is a Colt Commader, full size frame and slightly shorter barrel than normal. Even with small hands I have no trouble swapping mags, but I have been carrying my 1911 for 26 years.

You don't have to go to the range to pratice changing mags I do it while I am sitting in fron to the TV a night.
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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by FreuderLocks » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:50 am

Sorry all,

I didnt intend to imply that one would change mags without proper cover in a firefight, or that keeping the muzzle on target was imperative, it does seem to bother some people though. I posted rather hastily yesterday and it shows. My presentation aside, I have found with my SA 1911 that this is the easiest way for me to reload quickly and reliably. Thanks again, sorry for the confusion.
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Re: Need help with 1911 mag release

Post by Matt E. » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:32 pm

That's OK bro. You lost me at "check out the video"... :lol:
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