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Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by Gimpy » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:12 pm

I want to buy a Mini-14. I have a small problem, I don't know what caliber to get. It seems like they are only available in .223 or .308. I'm thinking .233 would be a good choice because it is inexpensive and highly available. On the other hand, .308 is fairly available and has alittle more knockdown power. Can anybody give me alittle advice with this decision?

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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by Dasho101 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:32 pm

its .223 and 7.62x39 (aka 7.62 Russian) for a similar platform in .308 your looking ant m14/m1a. go 223 there easier to find and deck out
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by MikeM » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:57 pm

Definitely go for the 5.56 (.223). The 7.62x39 Minis are prone to a lot more issues. You can check out The High Road for a whole lot of Mini info.

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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by RickOShea » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:04 pm

You'll want to use Ruger factory magazines. Ruger makes 30 rd mags for the Mini-14 and 20rd mags for the Mini-30.

I have a Mini-30 for a "truck gun". You can pretty much get the same accessories for either the Mini-14 or the Mini-30.
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by DannusMaximus » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:13 pm

Gimpy wrote:I have a small problem. I want to buy a Mini-14...
Fixed that for you... :wink:

I kid, I kid. There's a bit of Mini-14 hate on this site, you might get some ribbing. Here's a link to a previous (and long) thread on the topic, might be worth a look through if you haven't done so already.

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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by ZomCon Sargeant » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:14 pm

I own a Ruger Mini-30 and the only issue I have ever had was feeding issues while using after market magazines. I now use Ruger factory twenty rounders which perform flawlessly.

To answer your question the best I can I will have ask you this,

Do you want shorter range with a little more of a punch (Mini-30) or much longer range accurancy with less of a punch (Mini-14)?

Just a heads up. Ruger factory magazines are a little spendy but worth it.
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by raptor » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:52 pm

I have Mini-14s in .223 and like them. That said if you want a 7.62x39mm rifle get an AK.

A decent AK will likely be cheaper than the Mini-14 and the mags will definately be cheaper. If you want a Mini-14 get it in .233.

Now the Mini-14 also now comes in 6.8mm SPC. This is a nice caliber, but if you are going that route I would suggest an AR platform.

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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by weiss27md » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:57 pm

I like 7.62x39mm but I have heard a lot the Mini-30 (Mini-14 in 7.62x39mm) is unreliable. Either get the Mini-14 or an AK-47.

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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by austin93906 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:05 am

If you get a mini, make sure its a 580 series. These are the newest production rifles, where they switched from the pencil contoured barrels to ones that are thicker, and are less prone to the accuracy issues of older minis.

Two of the best mods you can do are a scout rail (either aMega ranges or Ultimak, I went with the a Mega ranges mount and love it) and a barrel strut (the best being the accu-strut) which both help with the structural rigidity of the barrel. My testimonial is on the accustrut site, and I definately saw an improvement.

All in all, the mini has proven to be a reliable rifle for me. The only problem I had was a mag that started acting up.

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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by austin93906 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:47 am

dancenbear wrote:if you reload ammunition i wouldn't suggest a mini at all! i dont know if its just mine or what but i shit you not the thing throws casings 15 yards !! in my opinion if you want to shoot a 223 get an ar if you prefer 762x39 get an ak ! you also expressed interest in the 308 and the m1a's have very similar operating systems to the mini's and are awesome rifles !! i have a mini-14, ar's ,ak's and m1a's and have put thousands of rounds through all of them, and by far i prefer the m1a's
I thing throwing casings that far is normal for minis. Mine throws them as far if not further than that lol
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by praharin » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:48 am

austin93906 wrote: I thing throwing casings that far is normal for minis. Mine throws them as far if not further than that lol
There was a time when powerful ejection was thought to be a benefit in a fighting rifle... :roll:
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by AKFTW » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:27 am

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austin93906 wrote: I thing throwing casings that far is normal for minis. Mine throws them as far if not further than that lol
There was a time when powerful ejection was thought to be a benefit in a fighting rifle... :roll:
Now everybody just wants them to automatically sort and arrange spent brass in a neat little pile to their right. :lol:
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by nateted4 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:41 am

Dasho101 wrote:its .223 and 7.62x39 (aka 7.62 Russian) for a similar platform in .308 your looking ant m14/m1a. go 223 there easier to find and deck out
x39 is "Soviet"

If he got to ordering 7.62 "Russian", he'd prolly get a spam can of 7.62x54r show up at his door. This would be awkward at the range when he was trying to stuff them into Mini mags.
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by strm_trpr » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:19 pm

I sold my mini 14. I could not get it acurate enough for me and the magazines were too expensive. I got an AR setup instead and am enjoying it much more.
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by Gimpy » Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:29 pm

Thanks for the info so far. I've heard about the mag problem before and can live with factory mags if I had too. I really like .223 ammo and it seems a lot of others do too. Mini-14's new run about $650. AR's (correct me if I'm wrong) seem to start at around $900 for a Base model. I've seen a lot of used mini's for sale at gun shops that were still around $600, why is that? I've got great bolt action rifles, but I want a semi-auto. I don't want to look at the gun I get with regret.

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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by Crazy Wolf » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:12 pm

Gimpy wrote:Thanks for the info so far. I've heard about the mag problem before and can live with factory mags if I had too. I really like .223 ammo and it seems a lot of others do too. Mini-14's new run about $650. AR's (correct me if I'm wrong) seem to start at around $900 for a Base model. I've seen a lot of used mini's for sale at gun shops that were still around $600, why is that? I've got great bolt action rifles, but I want a semi-auto. I don't want to look at the gun I get with regret.
You are. Decent quality (according to other members of the site) ARs from Palmetto State Armory start out at about $600.

I think the opinion on Mini-14s might be more vitriolic here than the mere merits of the firearm would warrant, but it still remains that the AR-15 platform tends to offer better reliability, accuracy, magazine capacity (outside of certain legal jurisdictions), parts availability, and Barbie-like levels of accessorization, being the primary small arm of the USA and many other countries around the world (as well as a popular choice among law enforcement organizations and civilians).

If you're thinking about getting the Mini-14, see if you can fire it and an AR-15, to compare them. Most of the objective analysis points to the AR-15 being better. You might find that the Mini-14 suits you better. If you can try before you buy, then do so. If you cannot, then default to the default, the AR-15.
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by Dasho101 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:25 pm

nateted4 wrote:
Dasho101 wrote:its .223 and 7.62x39 (aka 7.62 Russian) for a similar platform in .308 your looking ant m14/m1a. go 223 there easier to find and deck out
x39 is "Soviet"

If he got to ordering 7.62 "Russian", he'd prolly get a spam can of 7.62x54r show up at his door. This would be awkward at the range when he was trying to stuff them into Mini mags.

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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by Gimpy » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:42 pm

Great site. I like that deal a lot. I;m going to look into the AR's/M1A's alittle more.

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Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by austin93906 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:56 pm

praharin wrote:
austin93906 wrote: I thing throwing casings that far is normal for minis. Mine throws them as far if not further than that lol
There was a time when powerful ejection was thought to be a benefit in a fighting rifle... :roll:
Its a good thing in my book. To me it means that my rifle is doing everything it can to get that casing out of there.

To the people to the right of me at a shooting range however, it means im automatically an inconsiderate, evil dick, and that they should forcefully throw the brass back at me and inform me of said judgement lol
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

Post by Arkham Drifter » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:13 pm

Here in California they're quite popular due in part to the State's moronic gun laws. Despite everything I've 'heard' over the years regarding the Mini-14's poor performance, my eyewitness experience has been quite different. Sure, the platform is far from perfect but I've seen Mini-14's hang with tricked-out AR's in Carbine Classes...Guys with Mini-14's performing super-fast tactical reloads and putting rounds on target out to 385 yds all day long....Maybe not Minute-Of-Angle but Minute-Of-Person, no problem. I'd say go for it.
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Re: Mini-14 .233 or .308?

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Crazy Wolf wrote:You are. Decent quality (according to other members of the site) ARs from Palmetto State Armory start out at about $600.

I think the opinion on Mini-14s might be more vitriolic here than the mere merits of the firearm would warrant, but it still remains that the AR-15 platform tends to offer better reliability, accuracy, magazine capacity (outside of certain legal jurisdictions), parts availability, and Barbie-like levels of accessorization, being the primary small arm of the USA and many other countries around the world (as well as a popular choice among law enforcement organizations and civilians).

If you're thinking about getting the Mini-14, see if you can fire it and an AR-15, to compare them. Most of the objective analysis points to the AR-15 being better. You might find that the Mini-14 suits you better. If you can try before you buy, then do so. If you cannot, then default to the default, the AR-15.
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