Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

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Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by Cybrludite » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:25 am

Normally I wouldn't link to Sipsey St. here due to the No Politics rule, but this is a nifty info-dump. Basically, the shot-shells are cut so that when fired the case comes apart in the middle and acts as a very large Glaser Safety Slug. Seems it was a Depression-Era trick for using cheap birdshot shells to put Bambi on the table.
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Re: Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by Juney » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:45 am

For passing this along...you Sir, are my "Mancrush-of-the-day".
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Re: Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by BattleVersion » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:00 am

So,... birdshot isn't just for birds... ?




Seriously though, thanks for sharing.
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Re: Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by xLionx » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:25 am

that is really neat
I want to try a few diffrent ways to do the cuts, so that you could precut them and they wouldn't fall apart on you

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Re: Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by Skull_Hide » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:58 am

Ha! See, birdshot is the ultimate HD/SD round!

I've seen it before on YT before with some "good old boys" and I questioned the safety of it but since Iraq Vet has basically signed off on it I'm going to pick up some rounds tomorrow to mess around with the idea. Thanks.
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Post by Sworbeyegib » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:16 am

Thats pretty nifty, I like it. I mean, I don't see myself needing or doing it anytime soon, but its good to know it can be done.
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Post by chrispartida » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:26 am

Pretty awesome, thanks for sharing that vid!
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Post by Chef » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:54 am

I learned about that from a Kurt Saxon book when I was a kid, and being young and dumb enough not to know any better, tried it out.

Works great. 8)

I wouldn't expect to load a magazine full and have them cycle, however.
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Re: Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by Liff » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:01 am

This is very cool if you have a double or single barrel breech loading shotgun. I don't, so I'll just have to stick with the slugs :cry: .

Either way, thanks for posting.

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Post by Chef » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:26 am

You can load 'em just fine in a pump or traditional semiauto shotgun if you drop em' into the chamber by hand. Just don't expect them to cycle through the action.
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Post by FrANkNstEin » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:35 am

Thanks for sharing! Good to know you can do that if you ever need to.

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Post by TankNSpank » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:49 am

Very nice indeed.
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Post by Lionheart » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:06 pm

I was under the impression this was dangerous. Heard about this last year haven't tried it since I thought bad juju would occur. Thanks for the link by the way.
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Re: Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by E » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:20 pm

i read that this morning, but didn't get a chance to see the video. That was pretty cool i can't lie.
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Post by Dogan » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:22 pm

Wow. That is COOL! :shock:
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Re: Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by finger » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:44 pm

Chef wrote:I learned about that from a Kurt Saxon book when I was a kid
I also learned about this in a Kurt Saxon book when I was a young buck, but was to scared to try it. :D

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Post by Bearcat » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:29 pm

Skull_Hide wrote: I questioned the safety of it but since Iraq Vet has basically signed off on it I'm going to pick up some rounds tomorrow to mess around with the idea. Thanks.
With all due respect to any service members' experiences, just taking his word because he is a vetern would not be sufficient to ease my safety concerns. His combat experience does not qualify him to speak on the concerns I have of over pressure or the like. If he had additional experience like taking a shotgun armorist course or was a gunsmith I would feel better. Though shotguns see some use in the military, I am sure they don't load them with birdshot or modify the rounds in any way.
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Post by Skull_Hide » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:32 pm

The man knows his stuff and I've been watching his videos for some time and he knows a great great deal in reloading and that's why I trust in him, not due to the "vet" part of him.
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Post by Bearcat » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:37 pm

Skull_Hide wrote:The man knows his stuff and I've been watching his videos for some time and he knows a great great deal in reloading and that's why I trust in him, not due to the "vet" part of him.
Well that's fine, but you didn't make that clear, at least to me. I just didn't want you to be mislead or follow someone blindly and potentially hurt yourself or your gun.
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Post by NoMercy » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:22 pm

I think the old guy in the video is a gunsmith, if that makes you feel any better.
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Re: Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by Raindog » Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:59 pm

That's rather impressive

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Post by Tommy Tran » Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:08 pm

Do you gents think this would make a good impromtu door breach round?
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Re: Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by Turtlewolf » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:05 pm

Makes me wonder why there are no Glaser style slugs for shotguns, I'm sure that there may be a good reason. I couldn't find anything on Google about it, but concerns about over penetration could make something like this a good home defence round. Maybe someone with experience with the Glaser will add some information.
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Re: Cut shells (The poor man's slugs)

Post by AKFTW » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:07 pm

Can't you also pour wax in a birdshot shell to achieve a similar effect, and not have to cut up the body?
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