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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby hatchtrikk » Sat May 05, 2012 10:53 am

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Doc Torr wrote:Dave, stop pointing me towards the ACOG. I know I love it, but if my parole officer catches me in the redlight district again trying to pay for it, I'll never get to shoot it.

LOL My wife bought me the only ACOG I'm ever likely to have, and now I'm having trouble finding a rifle I think is suitable for it! Does Saiga make a 20" .223 rifle?




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Re: Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby TDW586 » Sat May 05, 2012 11:00 am

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Doc Torr wrote:Dave, stop pointing me towards the ACOG. I know I love it, but if my parole officer catches me in the redlight district again trying to pay for it, I'll never get to shoot it.

LOL My wife bought me the only ACOG I'm ever likely to have, and now I'm having trouble finding a rifle I think is suitable for it!

Does Saiga make a 20" .223 rifle? Are they actually .223, or did they take the logical step of chambering it for 5.56?


Easy enough to ream the chamber out to 5.56 specs if not.

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Re: Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Kutter_0311 » Sat May 05, 2012 11:11 am

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Doc Torr wrote:Dave, stop pointing me towards the ACOG. I know I love it, but if my parole officer catches me in the redlight district again trying to pay for it, I'll never get to shoot it.
LOL My wife bought me the only ACOG I'm ever likely to have, and now I'm having trouble finding a rifle I think is suitable for it! Does Saiga make a 20" .223 rifle? Are they actually .223, or did they take the logical step of chambering it for 5.56?
Easy enough to ream the chamber out to 5.56 specs if not.

Thanks for the tip!
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby TDW586 » Sat May 05, 2012 11:39 am

I'm looking forward to seeing a 20", converted Saiga 5.56 with an ACOG. That's teh secksy.

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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Kutter_0311 » Sat May 05, 2012 12:15 pm

TDW586 wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing a 20", converted Saiga 5.56 with an ACOG. That's teh secksy.

If I can find one, I'll do it! Hell, I'll even sell off Vin's Sig 556 to make it happen!

Anyone got a line? Do they even make the base Saiga I need?
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Re: Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby TDW586 » Sat May 05, 2012 12:20 pm

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TDW586 wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing a 20", converted Saiga 5.56 with an ACOG. That's teh secksy.

If I can find one, I'll do it! Hell, I'll even sell off Vin's Sig 556 to make it happen!

Anyone got a line? Do they even make the base Saiga I need?


Yeah, they make it:

http://www.championfirearms.com/Saiga-2 ... 0iz110.htm

Trick is going to be finding one in stock.

EDIT: And there's always the VEPR, which also sexually excites me.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct1202.aspx

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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby hatchtrikk » Sat May 05, 2012 12:22 pm

Guys, guys!

Top of this page. AFAIK, they are okay with 5.56 ammo as well.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Kutter_0311 » Sat May 05, 2012 1:15 pm

Sorry, hatchtrikk, missed your post!

Caliber .223Rem, barrel 20", 10-rd magazine, sight leaf for 3 divisions, spring loaded firing pin, hunting type plastic buttstock and forend

SPECIFICATIONS:
• Caliber: .223Rem
• Total Length: 947 mm (37 in.)
• Barrel Length: 414 mm (16.3 in.)
• Weight without Magazine: 3.8 kg (8.38 lbs.)

Our Price: $439.95

I could get 2 if I sold the Sig!

Or, at Champion's prices, I could get a smattering of several calibers!

It may be time to sell that Sig, any advice?
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby hatchtrikk » Sat May 05, 2012 2:31 pm

Kutter_0311 wrote:Sorry, hatchtrikk, missed your post!

Caliber .223Rem, barrel 20", 10-rd magazine, sight leaf for 3 divisions, spring loaded firing pin, hunting type plastic buttstock and forend

SPECIFICATIONS:
• Caliber: .223Rem
• Total Length: 947 mm (37 in.)
• Barrel Length: 414 mm (16.3 in.)
• Weight without Magazine: 3.8 kg (8.38 lbs.)

Our Price: $439.95

I could get 2 if I sold the Sig!

Or, at Champion's prices, I could get a smattering of several calibers!

It may be time to sell that Sig, any advice?



Sell it.

My next AK, after the Krink will be a Saiga in 5.45, methinks.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby TDW586 » Sat May 05, 2012 2:54 pm

Sell the SIG, get the Saiga. It's gonna rock, do it. Now.

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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby RickOShea » Sat May 05, 2012 5:04 pm

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Reversal?

On this one the windage is adjusted at the front, elevation at the back:
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On this one it's reversed, windage at the rear, elevation at the front:
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Dave_M wrote:Wait, I forget--where on an AR front sight do I have to pull out a file to adjust?


Luckily we have some fairly moderate winters in my AO, average highs run between 54F to 90F through-out the year. It's in the mid 80s right now, probably the perfect time to "regulate" that front post (hopefully tomorrow, now that I have the beast put together).

Too bad I don't have a mud hut to do it in....might get me some "cred" with some of the youngsters around here.


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Not exactly correct. The newer Venom blocks come with a pre-drilled pilot hole so that you can atleast put one pin back in the system (and one has to be better than none ):
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*And yes I realize that, along with knocking a few ounces off of the nose, I also knocked a few inches off of the sight-radius.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby hatchtrikk » Sat May 05, 2012 5:29 pm

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Great job Rick! That looks sweet :mrgreen:
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby m ellis allen » Sat May 05, 2012 6:17 pm

i took my Blueline flashight attached ot my rifle as intended with the purchase, and took it to the range today. It failled somewhere in the 150 rounds of 7.62x39 me and another fired. So this will be a NOGO as a firearm light.

But heres the weird part when i got home and tried to diagnose what broke/failed, i went through a trials of different symptoms, first i tried changing the battery, nogo
then i tried changing the tailcap with my nebo edge (same threading on tailcap) and.. IT WORKED!, so to make sure it was the tail cap i put the one from the Blueline on the EDGE and IT WORKED, wtf? so I put the originals back on their respective lights and THEY BOTH WORKED WTF? so now im baffled. i dont understand how this could work but it did.

As a regular flashlight, im very pleased with the Blueline for the price i paid. As a Weapons light, NO i cannot trust it there

on a side not the mounting option i went with worked 100% not a bit of movement.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Dave_M » Sun May 06, 2012 1:23 am

RickOShea wrote:
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Reversal?

On this one the windage is adjusted at the front, elevation at the back:
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On this one it's reversed, windage at the rear, elevation at the front:
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I guess you missed the part about using a file to adjust and then the part where I said that DD's were good BUIS and not good primaries (and my KAC, FN, LaRue, MI and others would be good to go). Even with pin replacement ability, you have got to see to the difference. Also, once again, you're pulling out the outliers.

Also, held in place by screws? That's a bigass, 'fuck that' to ignore (which I have mentioned every time).

Are DD sights are good primary sights as others I've listed? Nope. Are they serviceable BUIS? Yup. If we're talking AK's, a windage adjustment rear is the outlier, not the norm. Quite the opposite in the AR world (and quite easier to replace...)
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby hatchtrikk » Sun May 06, 2012 8:40 am

Has anyone seen/read anything about this? http://www.innovative-ordnance.com/inde ... &Itemid=66

Game changer or useless?
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby PotatoMuncher » Sun May 06, 2012 9:16 am

hatchtrikk wrote:Has anyone seen/read anything about this? http://www.innovative-ordnance.com/inde ... &Itemid=66

Game changer or useless?

Seems dope. Might be putting that on my Golani.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Kutter_0311 » Sun May 06, 2012 11:10 am

hatchtrikk wrote:Has anyone seen/read anything about this? Funky Mag Releases Game changer or useless?

I think that depends on your outlook on running AK's, since it changes how you perform the basic operation of mag changes. Are AK's your prefered rifle system? If yours are lost or broken, will you try to grab another AK as a battlefield pickup?

If you foresee having to run an AK that is not your own, this mod may change your manual of arms in a way that hinders you in that situation. Otherwise, it might be worth trying.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Dave_M » Sun May 06, 2012 3:56 pm

That style of extended/ambi selector has been around for quite some time in different forms. The only one that I'd be willing to put on one of my AK's at this point is a Chicomm mag release because it's a standard AK mag release but a bit longer.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby RickOShea » Sun May 06, 2012 7:12 pm

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I guess you missed the part about using a file to adjust and then the part where I said that DD's were good BUIS and not good primaries (and my KAC, FN, LaRue, MI and others would be good to go). Even with pin replacement ability, you have got to see to the difference. Also, once again, you're pulling out the outliers.

Also, held in place by screws? That's a bigass, 'fuck that' to ignore (which I have mentioned every time).

Yeah, I guess I "missed" that part.....Kinda like how you missed the part about the block being pinned:

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"Outlier"......I actually like that. I'm a bit of an outlier myself (well, certain parts of me), so I guess it's a good fit. :wink:
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Polley » Sun May 06, 2012 9:12 pm

This glow-in-the-dark watch face paint makes my pants shrink. It's amazing.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby AKFTW » Sun May 06, 2012 9:16 pm

Polley wrote:This glow-in-the-dark watch face paint makes my pants shrink. It's amazing.


Told you it's great stuff! :mrgreen:
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Dave_M » Sun May 06, 2012 10:09 pm

RickOShea wrote:
Dave_M wrote:
I guess you missed the part about using a file to adjust and then the part where I said that DD's were good BUIS and not good primaries (and my KAC, FN, LaRue, MI and others would be good to go). Even with pin replacement ability, you have got to see to the difference. Also, once again, you're pulling out the outliers.

Also, held in place by screws? That's a bigass, 'fuck that' to ignore (which I have mentioned every time).

Yeah, I guess I "missed" that part.....Kinda like how you missed the part about the block being pinned:

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"Outlier"......I actually like that. I'm a bit of an outlier myself (well, certain parts of me), so I guess it's a good fit. :wink:


So why the screws then? I'd guess for a myriad of factors which I won't bother to go into. Anywho, I think we've beaten this to death. You obviously think filing down a front sight for adjustment is AOK and I, just as obviously, do not.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Kutter_0311 » Sun May 06, 2012 10:48 pm

RickOShea wrote:Image

Does that go into an original pin slot on the barrel?
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Polley » Sun May 06, 2012 10:58 pm

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Polley wrote:This glow-in-the-dark watch face paint makes my pants shrink. It's amazing.


Told you it's great stuff! :mrgreen:


I'm starting to think the regular paint would have been too bright (rear dots would have washed my sights). Thanks for the watch face recommendation. This is with only one coating of glow paint. The girlfriend said she had some clear fingernail polish I can put over the top of it. I'm unaware of no-shine Scotch tape, so I can't go my usual "TAPE EVER'THANG!!!1!1!!!one!1!" route. Sad day. Anyway, this photo was taken after the paint was exposed to a LED MiniMagLite for about fifteen seconds per sight. I really like the tri-dot pattern I went with.
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EDIT TO ADD: M1 Carbine used the "file the front sight" method, also. Mine's been accurate enough for me. Do I prefer adjustable? You betcha, but for minute-of-snapping-turtle's-head, I really haven't had any complaints with it at all. If it can hit that small of a target with ease, I'm fine with it. Then again, an M1 Carbine is a heck of a lot different than an AK.
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